duckmanJR wrote: »
Well, I have absolutely no skin in the game....didn't fish it....and probably never will. BUT
You have been given a pretty clear idea of what the actual fisherman see as a need.
Regardless of who the "conservationists" are...or even the "big name" of Guy Harvey....by not acting on the treble hook rule you are tassidly approving people violating the rule...since the guys who do it alot...told you how "that game gets done" and you KNOW that it will be unenforceable.
There is a big difference in excluding a specie of fish....and having a rule that you can reasonably be sure will get violated.
To knuckle under to "pressure".... is what is most wrong in almost every sector of life in America today...
saltwater classic wrote: »
Let me try to clarify the treble hook issue. We are not a strictly Kingfish tournament. A good majority of our participants are of the ''weekend warrior'' type of angler and if treble hooks were allowed they would be used by all, indiscrimanately, while targeting all top water species, it is for this reason that we do not allow treble hooks. We mirror the IGFA rules and they clearly state the use of treble hooks to be against the rules. The agreement with Guy Harvey also mirrors this.
Contrary to what you may believe, it is a conservation issue and it is an issue that our sponsors and mangement are well aware of. The catching of an undersized fish or non-targeted species has a pretty slim chance of survival when they swallow a treble hook. This is a fact, not something I or the radio station made up.
I respect your experience and welcome your comments, suggestions and criticisms. As mentioned in previous posts we spend a great deal of time planning this event. Much of that time is spent on trying to streamline and improve it. We take comments from these types of forums and do discuss them. While I am currently speaking on behalf of the event under the Saltwater Classic moniker, I too am a longtime FS member.
Again as mentioned previously, this type of event is not for everyone, it is designed to attract large numbers of participants and provide a fun, entertaining and memorable time for those that choose to enter. It is also designed to provide our sponsors with a large audience of the demographic that offshore fishing attracts. I believe we succeed in this and I also believe that the majority of our participants feel this way too.
I do appreciate your voice in this matter and I hope I was able to clarify the treble hook issue for all to understand.
marineguy1 wrote: »
OK, based upon your first three lines.........never mind. The only thing that was clarified was that you don't know what your talking about regarding how anglers would preferentially rig for different species. Perhaps, you need to just remove kings or Guy Harvey from your list because you can't make sound decisions. The FSFA and CFOA are not single species kingfishing events and that is firsthand knowledge to draw upon. Secondly, Guy Harvey would be embarassed by you using him as the basis to make your argument. Argue within the depth of your own experience or hire a consultant who can as there are people out there that can put statistics(easily converted to dollars) into your decision making process. I thought you ran this tournament for money? Now you seem to invoke a conservation position while criticizing Not-for-profit events that hide behind a conservation cause. You previously said something to that effect. Remember, I suggested you leave it alone, take notes and consult with others later.......but you went to the shed for a shovel. In general you seem to gloss over people's suggestions/comments and then act like we don't understand conservation issues, IGFA rules and such and then you enlighten us to clarify you position. Either work to make your event more inviting to the masses for profit or stand on your newly built conservation pedestal.
ProFISHent wrote: »
Another comment I might add is that this is a tournament for "weekend warriors", the fact is most the guys out there that dont know their a$$ from their elbows (what I would call weekend warriors) also dont know how to make a haywire twist. So they will buy kingfish rigs, kingfish rigs with treble hooks.
PlumbLoco wrote: »
Add black sea bass so us weekend warriors can feel like we can win.
Fins13 wrote: »
Yes it clearly states in the rules 50 mile limit. I know some people that are pretty pissed about this.