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Uh oh.... Wins at bay hill. Should have put some skins on him for Augusta before the odds move!

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  • wishfishinwishfishin Posts: 4,080 Captain
    I'm sure to pizz off his fans but the nicest thing I can say about him is that he is one talented scumbag of a human being.
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  • dstockwelldstockwell Posts: 13,833 AG
    Over 2 years since his last win, bout **** time.
    It is not the responsibility of the United States to solve the problems of other countries.
  • reel estatereel estate Posts: 1,402 Officer
    He's always owned Bayhill....his putting game has come around for sure,bad news for everybody else..
  • tapatetapate Posts: 5,263 Admiral
    Has anyone read "The Big Miss" by his old teacher Hank Haney? I don't think it paints Tiger in a very positive light at all. Some of the quotes I have read were downright brutal.

    Im glad he is a factor again. It is better for golf. It gives me someone to root for (whoever battling for a lead with him).
  • wishfishinwishfishin Posts: 4,080 Captain
    It's difficult for me to forget him turning down Davis Love III when Davis asked for some signed balls to sell at a charity function.
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  • BigfootBigfoot Posts: 9,382 Admiral
    tapate wrote: »
    Has anyone read "The Big Miss" by his old teacher Hank Haney? I don't think it paints Tiger in a very positive light at all. Some of the quotes I have read were downright brutal.

    Im glad he is a factor again. It is better for golf. It gives me someone to root for (whoever battling for a lead with him).

    Haney is a chump of all chumps...keep your mouth shut Haney!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your an old weezel pencilneck...

    Everyone deserves forgiveness...so he likes mega Hoohaaa,. he's paid a big price....move forward.

    Signed: Haney is a punk
    Sometimes the nicest people you meet are covered in tattoos & sometimes the most judgmental people you meet go to church on Sundays...
  • StonewallStonewall Posts: 848 Officer
    wishfishin wrote: »
    It's difficult for me to forget him turning down Davis Love III when Davis asked for some signed balls to sell at a charity function.

    Hadn't heard that! But that brings him down a few more notches for me.
    Can't never did try!
  • tapatetapate Posts: 5,263 Admiral
    Apparently he thought it was hilarious to rent a porno while rooming with Zach Johnson (devout Christian) at the Ryder Cup and thought it was a hilarious practical joke.

    There are some desturbing tales in there no doubt.
  • illinoisfishermanillinoisfisherman Posts: 5,546 Admiral
    tapate wrote: »
    Has anyone read "The Big Miss" by his old teacher Hank Haney? I don't think it paints Tiger in a very positive light at all. Some of the quotes I have read were downright brutal.

    Im glad he is a factor again. It is better for golf. It gives me someone to root for (whoever battling for a lead with him).[/QUOTE]

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  • wishfishinwishfishin Posts: 4,080 Captain
    Bigfoot wrote: »
    Haney is a chump of all chumps...keep your mouth shut Haney!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your an old weezel pencilneck...

    Everyone deserves forgiveness...so he likes mega Hoohaaa,. he's paid a big price....move forward.

    Signed: Haney is a punk

    He's arrogant, foul-mouthed, and a poor sport unless he's in the lead. Not someone I can root for and it's not up to me to forgive him. I didn't read Haney's book, the eye test is all I need.
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  • tapatetapate Posts: 5,263 Admiral
    wishfishin wrote: »
    He's arrogant, foul-mouthed, and a poor sport unless he's in the lead. Not someone I can root for and it's not up to me to forgive him. I didn't read Haney's book, the eye test is all I need.

    I pretty much agree completely with this. The way he acts on a golf course is embarassing.
  • illinoisfishermanillinoisfisherman Posts: 5,546 Admiral
    I just don't like him. It probably started when he was on top and cut his caddies pay from 10% of winnings, what I was told was usual & customary, to something like 50K a year?

    As far as cheating on his wife. Well it happens but isn't right. He was single and should have smelled the roses then. By the way, his wife looked like a beautiful princess, have you seen the looks of the ones he was messing with? Most are a big step down from the wife.
  • tapatetapate Posts: 5,263 Admiral
    I just don't like him. It probably started when he was on top and cut his caddies pay from 10% of winnings, what I was told was usual & customary, to something like 50K a year?

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    I couldn't find anything on this. When was that? Stevie Williams was making big money with Tiger I know. Was it his caddie before Stevie?
  • illinoisfishermanillinoisfisherman Posts: 5,546 Admiral
    I believe it was the caddy he had when he was dating the girl before his wife. Probably just after he got big. I don't follow golf much but remember it in the news or mentioned by some golf broadcasters.
  • illinoisfishermanillinoisfisherman Posts: 5,546 Admiral
    I searched and can't come up with anything other that a vague statement from a "celebrity scandal sheet' saying something about Tiger's caddy wont be making the normal 10%. I may be wrong, but I swear I saw it on TV. Well, I will still root against him.
  • BodineBodine Posts: 3,106 Captain
    Put yourself in his shoes,,,,,,OH you cant, you cant even begin to imagine his life.
    All we think about is the money, and what it brings possession wise.
    Try to imagine the social hardship his notoriety and bank causes.
    You cant, I cant , but it is similar to Elvis or Mohammed Ali.
    He can not trust anyone, everyone is out to make money on him.
    His whole life is a public spectacle, I am not sure many of us could handle his life.
    F the feds
  • BodineBodine Posts: 3,106 Captain
    ferris1248 wrote: »
    We don't know the man. None of us have met him personally.

    .

    Actually the boys and I chatted with him on the practice green at Isleworth about 10 years ago.
    He approached the boys, as I had told them to leave him alone.
    He was very cordial, related to the boys and watched them hit a few puts before returning to his routine.
    I think they were around 6 and 8 at the time. Later on we let he, Robert Allenby and Stuart Appleby play through, and they watched
    the boys hack up the fairway, laughed and moved on.
    F the feds
  • BigfootBigfoot Posts: 9,382 Admiral
    ferris1248 wrote: »
    I agree completely.

    We don't know the man. None of us have met him personally.

    All we know about him is other people's impressions. I personally don't put much stock in that.

    Has he screwed up? Of course but that's between him and his ex-wife as far as I'm concerned.

    That's my point...**** all the hating and judging - how about some Grace??? I like the Elvis comparison Bodine...I wrote a post out yesterday comparing the two and decided to delete rather than fuel the fire or debate.

    As far as I am concerned his private life should be his bidness...and to be in 3rd place on win list only means he HATES to lose with a passion...true compettitors are sometimes tough to be around - all they care about is winning.

    No one has walked in his shoes, and I stand by my position on pencilneck Haney for "telling all" - weak!
    Sometimes the nicest people you meet are covered in tattoos & sometimes the most judgmental people you meet go to church on Sundays...
  • illinoisfishermanillinoisfisherman Posts: 5,546 Admiral
    I don't hate him, just don't like him. I can root against him just like everyone else is free to root for him or anyone else for that matter.

    Once you attain that level of public scrutiny and become the paid "spokes person" of so many products, many of which are "pitched" to young folks and children, it would seem you have the obligation to always be seen as a positive role model. He may very well have some fine moments as it seems Bodine witnessed, but that dosen't make me have to like him.

    Foot, with fame you lose your private life. It may not be right but it was their decision to become what they are.

    Several of his fellow athletes, and also golfing buddies of his, used to visit a business we owned years ago. They were strictly "class acts". Both are revered on and off the field.
  • tapatetapate Posts: 5,263 Admiral
    I don't know the man and don't pretend to. I do think the way he acts on the course is embarassing. I don't need a swing coach to tell me that in a tell all book. I see it every Thursday - Sunday. I don't care how much pressure he is under, he acts like a Grade A BABY on course. The way he treats some of his caddies burns me up too.

    You can call that pressure, or greatness, or stress or however you want to phrase it, but i can see that with my eyes.

    Is he the best golfer of my generation? Yes. Is he under pressure ? Yes. Does he have my respect for what he does on the golf course in terms of talent? YOU BET.

    Would I want my kids to act like that on a golf course? Nope.

    I don't care what he does in his personal life, and he owes the public nothing in that regard. Yo bidness is yo bidness Tiger.
  • SloughSlough S.w. Ga./ St. JamesPosts: 5,813 Admiral
    A lot of today's athletes need to take lessons from Richard Petty. Back in his day of fame, he lived a life (that as far as the public knew) that everyone would want their kids to follow. A story was written on him about a photo shoot that was lined up for him by one of his sponsors. The photographer showed up with his young son to do the shoot. Richard walked up and told him that he had 30 minutes to get the shots he wanted because of other engagments that he had. The young boy was asking Richard all kinds of questions and the photographer told the boy to go sit out of the way and leave Mr. Richard alone, that he didn't have time for him. When they got through with the shoot, Richard called the boy over and spent a hour answering all the questions the boy had and sat him in the car ect. When asked why he would give the young boy all this time with his busy schedule, he stated "Fans are what made me and Fans can ruin me, they dont have to give me their time, so I better give them mine".
    I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you
  • grouperdawggrouperdawg Posts: 296 Deckhand
    As far as the caddy thing, for the average player, you usually get paid per event a flat rate for the week. Hotel or getting there is generally not covered, but some players may pay airfare for something special or different circumstances. You make the cut, caddy usually gets something in the 10% neighborhood. That granola company sponsors alot of caddy's to wear their hats and you can make small change if you go that route. The really big players like Phil or Tiger will work out something for the year. I am not sure who he had before Fluff if anyone, but even with Tiger being notoriously cheap I am sure that Steve Williams was compensated very well.

    It seems like people want Tiger to either do really bad or win and nothing in between. I thought Tiger used to conduct his post round interviews pretty good considering how many he had to go through. I agree that you do not have to know him to say his behavior on the course is embarrassing. He hasn't hurt a spectator throwing a club like Bobby Jones but it is not that hard to control the cursing. One of my friends several years ago was paired with Tiger for the first time on a Sunday & during introductions his first sentence had 2 f bombs. He was like, holy crap, can you say that there are people like three feet away from us!

    I know nothing about Haney but can only assume he has a huge ego & whether Tiger is a jack **** or not writing a tell all will never sit well with me.

    Love him or hate him or don't care, Tiger is definitely good for golf...especially as they keep losing title sponsors.
  • wishfishinwishfishin Posts: 4,080 Captain
    Hey Mullet, what does Larry Brown have to say about this?
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  • MulletMullet Posts: 2,431 Moderator
    "Talent is a gift, character is a choice"- Larry Brown
  • SwampratSwamprat Posts: 1,058 Officer
    Not a fan of Tiger, yes he was a great golfer but now think he is on track with most of the consistent ones.....win a tourney now and again and finish in the top 20.

    Thing is Tiger use to be so dominant, can his ego and physci grasp that before when he entered a tourny his name alone wilted players paired with him but now it is not the case. I see him imploding again cause he is not what he was. I see it now as he is playing tourneys he usually skipped in order to crank his fortune back up or sponsors demanded he play more in order to get more bang for their buck.

    The one thing I hate is the man crush most reporters and commentators as well as networks have on him. Johnny Miller spunks his pants every time Tiger tees off.
    Jackson Cuda 12

    A wade fisherman is the most simplistic but the most adept for the quarry they are after. They are immersed in their challenger's habitat and are in tune with the subtle changes of current, temperature and bottom. In order to be successful at this noble and primal fishing form one must be submerged from their goobs to their boobs, anyone doing this outside of that boundary is either sunbathing or swimming. S.F. Stewart 2015
  • illinoisfishermanillinoisfisherman Posts: 5,546 Admiral
    Mullet wrote: »
    "Talent is a gift, character is a choice"- Larry Brown

    Great quote.
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