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River, look at the field of Republican challangers and me why you would vote for any of them.
"Today is MINE"
Fins, I agree wholeheartedly. We are almost beyond the point of no return. Luckily, a lot of people feel the same way you and I do - ie we are on a VERY dangerous path that leads straight off a cliff into insolvency and the eventual unraveling of our very way of life. Sooner or later the bills are going to come due but liberals have no concept of consequences, just look at any state or municipality run by liberals for the last 10 years. The truth speaks for itself.
Regarding California... I have a lot of family there, mostly in the central valley. They absolutely hate what the "liberals on the coast" have done to the place. If you look at the map, its VERY evident whats going on... sad state of affairs to be sure.
No doubt about, just look at the warmongers of the last ten years. They expect this country to take it up the **** for the rest of the world. UNACCEPTABLE
Warmongers is a really a gross oversimplification of terms and an easy out to the very complex situation of 9-11. We are one of the few countries that has had to fight an international war against non-state entities, or non-rational actors in strictly poli sci terms. Hindsight is always 20-20, and I tend to think we did the best we could given the information we had available at the time - even if years later it turned out that Iraq had no WMDs - they were still a terror friendly state run by a pompous dictator who boasted that any enemy of the USA was a friend or Iraq. Saddam overplayed his hand and we called his bluff... I guess shame on us, right? A dozen UN resolutions, decades of grandstanding and nuclear threats are what dug the hole in Iraq. We tried to fill in that hole after we realized he was F.O.S. and our American lives and treasure have gotten us nowhere. The PEOPLE of Iraq apparently still want their sectarian wars and religious oppression, after 10 years of trying to make a friend out of an enemy - we should just let them have at it and work with whatever crappy dictator shakes out in the end.
Afghanistan is the same way. My personal opinion is that after 50 years of upheaval, conquest and oppression all the Afghanistani people know is force and who wields it. Force is their yardstick by which freedom is measured. We can build them schools and hospitals, provide them with power and clean water, give them food to eat and try to show them an alternative to the miserable existence they squalor in, but at the end of the day, they will still resist and hate us because we are their occupiers. I strongly feel that they would rather be virtual slaves under their own people then be free under our hand. We went to war against an ideology, not a nation, a people, or a place. We have tried, often in vain, to drag Iraq and Afghanistan into the modern western world while at the same time hunting and killing their heros - and they could care less what we have done for them, they want to fail on their own. I say let them fail.
I personally feel, after years of international wars, its time to take care of our own house. We have debt up to our eyeballs, a real threat of a real depression and currency devaluation, total fiscal irresponsibility by our legislators, massive job losses to our overseas competitors, immigration issues that NEED to be addressed, a deeply divided national psyche, and a national moral lower than at any time in history.
That is what is UNACCEPTABLE!
and... that is why I am probably going to vote for Ron Paul. As someone else said... he is probably the best protest a voter can make regarding the status quo. He may not have a snowballs chance in hell, but...
Very insightful, and I think fair analysis of the ME and I agree with all of it, except for the Ron Paul part.
I think Ron Paul at best is a protest vote. But by some fluke I wouldn't want to see him get elected, so I couldn't vote for him.
Well the absolute worst thing that can happen is that RP runs and as independent, ie Ross Perot, and costs Mitt Romney the election. I don't think that will happen though... Regardless, each candidate is going to have to choose their running mate well.
Lets go to 2 term limits and see what happens. If it's good enough for the President so it should be good enough for Congress.
― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Regardless if he runs as and independent or not he will still get votes.
Actually, taken as a whole, there isn't any candidate that I could say for certain I'd vote for at this point. That goes for every Republican candidate as well as President Obama. And yes, Obama has stances that I do agree with.
Personally, looking at Obama, Romney, Paul, and Gingrich, (The President plus the three guys that have the best chance of gaining the Republican nomination) each one has stances that I agree and disagree with. I'm not a far right winger, nor a far left winger, and can probably be called an Independant that tends to lean more center-right.
No one seems to be jumping out to me right now as being someone I'd support....if I had to pick a Republican right now, it would probably be Romney. Gingrich is too blustery and Paul's a bit too wacky for me..plus I think Paul would look horrible in a Presidential debate.
The fluke would be that Mitt Romney costs Ron Paul the election...
We weren't attacked by Saudi Arabia, we were attacked by an ideology.
You cant write and show your ignorance every time. Idiot liberal is all you are.
Anyone that does is a stupid idiot.
So ideology equals - Afghanistan, hell of a philosophy.
You are simply blind if you believe Romney will cut any spending - never will happen.
I'm not a liberal or conservative, meaningless labels at this point. Was Bush a liberal? Why the loans to GM and Chrysler? Why bailout Lehman, Goldman Sachs, etc.? Why a Prescription Drug Benefit Program that prohibits any price negotiation and will cost us 1 Trillion over the first 10 years? The problem is corruption which is going completely unchecked in our gov't. After that consider: Why was Newt paid 1.6 million as a "consultant" to Fannie and Freddie just before they became unsolvent? The Bloomberg story... Republican-appointed Treasury secretary (Henry Paulson) who tipped off 20 top hedge-fund managers about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s imminent collapse after assuring the public that it wouldn’t happen. What does that say about our country when even the most obvious kind of corruption – involving hundreds of billions of dollars – is simply ignored? For big business, the powerful role of government in our society is simply too valuable to ignore. And the amount of corruption it inspires is huge. Few
politicians even bother trying to hide the fact that they’re bought and sold like furniture.
Term Limits. That would go a long way in holding down some if not most of the corruption and and blind following.
If you think about it, why would anyone want to run for POTUS? The most qualified people would never get elected. The media/press runs and decides who will be POTUS.
and folks like limbaugh spew their rhetoric to keep the myth going that there is a difference between them, when there is not
The choice between lackey A or B is due to the fact that most sheople don't take the time, or they just don't want to know, to find out what is really going on. They prefer to be led around by their noses and told what to believe while arguing Liberal/Conservative - Republican/Democrat. All you have to do is look at the candidates: Obama? another Bush in Democrat clothing. Romney or Perry? Good 'ol boys that want to tell you they are "outside" Washington when they are crony capitalists at their finest. Newt? Same B.S.
I actually think Limbaugh is right most of the time. I also notice that the lefties NEVER put up any facts to dispute him, only name calling and stupid posts. And besides, when have you ever listened to his radio show???
So mustang190 has his answer...
They don't know the difference.