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• Tony Roma Posts: 4,153 Captain

  December 2021 #122

  Giving her a pardon would be career suicide. 

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• cadman Posts: 43,623 AG

  December 2021 #123

  Tony Roma said:

  Giving her a pardon would be career suicide. 

  Not for the right President at the right time. 

  Former Mini Mart Magnate

  I am just here for my amusement. 

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• MelbourneMark Posts: 3,843 Captain

  December 2021 #124

  Odd that the prosecution did not offer better deals for more info to convict others?   Odd that all the documents are now sealed?    Why?  Seriously, why?  
  

  
  

  Odd the timing of this done between holidays...  Its almost like those in power wanted this to conclude on day(s) where most folks were not watching the news?
  

  
  

  Its almost like this was not a trial and just a coverup.    Its disgusting.
  

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• MelbourneMark Posts: 3,843 Captain

  December 2021 #125

  Tapes go missing, evidence goes missing, now evidence is sealed.   
  

  
  

  This just confirms to many, obviously myself, that there is absolutely a two-tier justice system.  The elites will protect their own I suppose. 
  

  
  

  
  

  I truly hope the civil-suits will shed more light or at least make the pedos/prince sweat a little bit.
  

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• tag Posts: 9,784 Admiral

  December 2021 #126

  Maxwell knows too much about too many rich and famous people. The justice system protect the entitled. She will be involuntary suicided before she can talk. 

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• conchydong Posts: 14,370 AG

  December 2021 #127

  "Royalty" was invoved. American and British. Of course everything will be sealed.

  “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
  ― Ernest Hemingway

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• treemanjohn Posts: 7,998 Admiral

  December 2021 #128

  Best thing for max to do now is burn it down. Comeys worthless daughter never offered a deal, which points to the real problem

  We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends

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• ferris1248 Posts: 25,729 Moderator

  December 2021 #129

  The defendant probably got a better "deal" from some other people.

  
  

  "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."
  
  Rabbi Hillel (c20 BCE)

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• Mango Man Posts: 13,570 AG

  December 2021 #130

  ferris1248 said:

  The defendant probably got a better "deal" from some other people.

  Yep. What's behind curtain #1?

  
  
  America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
  Abraham Lincoln

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• 2amigo Posts: 8,923 Admiral

  December 2021 #131

  Total coverup of those that participated in Epstein’s Web, but we should trust the government…….
  

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• treemanjohn Posts: 7,998 Admiral

  December 2021 #132

  https://americandigitalnews.com/index.php/2020/07/12/everyone-on-epsteins-flight-logs/
  

  We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends

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• Florida Bullfrog Posts: 4,847 Captain

  December 2021 #133

  Riddle me this… why is any of this happening at all? Why didn’t the conspirators just keep it all quiet and Epstein never get prosecuted to begin with?  

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• treemanjohn Posts: 7,998 Admiral

  December 2021 #134

  Orange man's DOJ put the heat on Epstein 

  We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends

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• Florida Bullfrog Posts: 4,847 Captain

  December 2021 edited December 2021 #135

  treemanjohn said:

  Orange man's DOJ put the heat on Epstein 

  I’d be curious to know how much turnover actually happened in DOJ when  the Don came and then how much more turnover happened when he left. 

  
  

  Next question is, assuming your assertion is correct, wasn’t the Don an associate of Epstein? 

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• treemanjohn Posts: 7,998 Admiral

  December 2021 #136

  Florida Bullfrog said:

  treemanjohn said:

  Orange man's DOJ put the heat on Epstein 

  I’d be curious to know how much turnover actually happened in DOJ when  the Don came and then how much more turnover happened when he left. 

  
  

  Next question is, assuming your assertion is correct, wasn’t the Don an associate of Epstein? 

  I know the orange man had made many public comments about sex trafficking and pedophiles. 
  
  I don't think that he was a travel associate. However I'm sure something was brought up in the trail to be used against him in the next big event

  We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends

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• Tony Roma Posts: 4,153 Captain

  December 2021 #137

  Many pictures out there of Orange man, main pedophile , and lady pedophile out there. I posted one when this thread first started and it was removed because politics are banned. 

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• dave44 Posts: 18,939 AG

  December 2021 #138

  Didn’t I hear Epstein was permanently banned from a certain Florida estate? I wonder who knows what on that?

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• cadman Posts: 43,623 AG

  December 2021 #139

  Believe nothing you hear and only1/2 of what you see. 
  
  There is no evidence of any illegal activity involving known figures. There are many allegations. Maxwell could have made more claims, but without proof, it would have made her look worse during the trial and served no purpose except to fuel gossip rags and forum arguments. 
  
  Her best interest unless she had some kind of evidence was to not make unsubstantiated claims.
  
  You guys can argue over who went to the island and who did what. Your argument is going to blame the "other" guy and claim "your" guy was innocent. Truth is, they all knew Epstein and were sociable with him and flew on his plane. They knew what he was, but he had money and connections so they ignored it or worse joined him in such activity. Who knows who did what. 
  
  But don't think "your" guy is innocent. None of them are. 

  Former Mini Mart Magnate

  I am just here for my amusement. 

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• treemanjohn Posts: 7,998 Admiral

  December 2021 #140

  cadman said:

  Believe nothing you hear and only1/2 of what you see. 
  
  There is no evidence of any illegal activity involving known figures. There are many allegations. Maxwell could have made more claims, but without proof, it would have made her look worse during the trial and served no purpose except to fuel gossip rags and forum arguments. 
  
  Her best interest unless she had some kind of evidence was to not make unsubstantiated claims.
  
  You guys can argue over who went to the island and who did what. Your argument is going to blame the "other" guy and claim "your" guy was innocent. Truth is, they all knew Epstein and were sociable with him and flew on his plane. They knew what he was, but he had money and connections so they ignored it or worse joined him in such activity. Who knows who did what. 
  
  But don't think "your" guy is innocent. None of them are. 

  What percentage of things that you google up are we supposed to believe?

  We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends

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• Nick Nikon Posts: 4,995 Captain

  December 2021 #141

  
  

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• cadman Posts: 43,623 AG

  December 2021 #142

  treemanjohn said:

  cadman said:

  Believe nothing you hear and only1/2 of what you see. 
  
  There is no evidence of any illegal activity involving known figures. There are many allegations. Maxwell could have made more claims, but without proof, it would have made her look worse during the trial and served no purpose except to fuel gossip rags and forum arguments. 
  
  Her best interest unless she had some kind of evidence was to not make unsubstantiated claims.
  
  You guys can argue over who went to the island and who did what. Your argument is going to blame the "other" guy and claim "your" guy was innocent. Truth is, they all knew Epstein and were sociable with him and flew on his plane. They knew what he was, but he had money and connections so they ignored it or worse joined him in such activity. Who knows who did what. 
  
  But don't think "your" guy is innocent. None of them are. 

  What percentage of things that you google up are we supposed to believe?

  More than the crap you post. 

  Former Mini Mart Magnate

  I am just here for my amusement. 

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• Turner River Terror Posts: 11,897 AG

  December 2021 #143

  Crap...?
  I didn't know we could say Crap..Crap Crap Crap...Crapper Crapish..
  I feel better already..Crap

  Killin and Grillin :grin

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• Mango Man Posts: 13,570 AG

  December 2021 #144

  cadman said:

  treemanjohn said:

  cadman said:

  Believe nothing you hear and only1/2 of what you see. 
  
  There is no evidence of any illegal activity involving known figures. There are many allegations. Maxwell could have made more claims, but without proof, it would have made her look worse during the trial and served no purpose except to fuel gossip rags and forum arguments. 
  
  Her best interest unless she had some kind of evidence was to not make unsubstantiated claims.
  
  You guys can argue over who went to the island and who did what. Your argument is going to blame the "other" guy and claim "your" guy was innocent. Truth is, they all knew Epstein and were sociable with him and flew on his plane. They knew what he was, but he had money and connections so they ignored it or worse joined him in such activity. Who knows who did what. 
  
  But don't think "your" guy is innocent. None of them are. 

  What percentage of things that you google up are we supposed to believe?

  More than the crap you post. 

  Hmmm, I think this could warrant a poll! 
  
  Well, maybe not....Cad would run away with it. 

  
  
  America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
  Abraham Lincoln

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• Gary S Posts: 3,340 Captain

  January 2022 #145

  Turner River Terror said:

  Crap...?
  I didn't know we could say Crap..Crap Crap Crap...Crapper Crapish..
  I feel better already..Crap

  But you can't say ****. I mean Richard.
  
  

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• treemanjohn Posts: 7,998 Admiral

  January 2022 #146

  Federal prosecutors in New York officially dropped charges against Tova Noel and Michael Thomas – the two correctional officers on duty when Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide in a federal lockup there.

  
  

  In August 2019, Epstein was found dead in his cell in the early hours of the morning at the now-closed Metropolitan Correctional Center, where he was awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges.

  
  

  Noel and Thomas allegedly falsified government records and fell asleep on the job according to a November 2019 indictment. Leaders from the federal correctional officers union argued this case was unprecedented and typically would be handled administratively.
  
  

  In a Thursday court filing, prosecutors said they were dropping the case, formally ending the prosecution of the two officers.

  
  

  The Justice Department has yet to release any report regarding the timeframe leading up to Epstein’s suicide or days after.

  We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends

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• ferris1248 Posts: 25,729 Moderator

  January 2022 #147

  Sounds reasonable.

  
  

  "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."
  
  Rabbi Hillel (c20 BCE)

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• MelbourneMark Posts: 3,843 Captain

  January 2022 #148

  There are quite a few oddities before and after the “suicide”.   Perhaps he did himeself in, but many people were happy with the result. 

  Anyone who has read a history book knows that humans will off others, to protect themselves 
  

  
  

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• dragon bait Posts: 11,245 AG

  January 2022 #149

  Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to keep the names of eight “John Does” secret and will leave it to the court to decide whether the names should be unsealed.
  

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• MelbourneMark Posts: 3,843 Captain

  January 2022 #150

  Seems someone lost their royalty card over the upcoming civil cases..  
  
  things might get interesting afterall

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• Saltwaterdawg Posts: 5,559 Admiral

  January 2022 #151

  Between Andy and Hairy, the royals are a mess. 

  LGBT

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