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What boat ramps to use in Everglades City? UPDATE

From doing some online research, is the boat ramp at Everglades rod and gun club the only ramp in Everglades City?  It looks like Glades Haven was sold in 2019 and not operational....... Are there any other ramps or is the Rod and Gun club the best one?  Launching a 20' Lake and Bay. I know there is also one in Chokoloskee at island park marina.....is that ramp better? It seems EC is easier to Navigate to the gulf to.....I always seem to get that pass from Smallwoods to the mangrove creek wrong!  (Luckily it wasn't in my own boat). 

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  • CaptjamesCaptjames Posts: 237 Deckhand
    Is Port of the Islands a better boat ramp to use than Everglades rod and gun club?  My boat is fast, so running an extra 5-10 miles, doesn't much matter to me. 
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 4,856 Captain
    Port of the Islands is a great ramp… but.. the canal to Fakahatchee is a 3 mile long No Wake zone…. and it’s enforced.

    The Rod and Gun Club is your best bet - buts it’s a one hole difficult ramp with just a high sea wall to tie up to… Still it puts you in the Barron River with a well marked channel out to Indian Key on the outside…

    Since Glades Haven closed I’ve been using Outdoor Resorts on Chokoloskee (it’s on your left as you get to the Island) then either running up the Turner River for the upper bays in winter or out Rabbit Key Pass to the outside - then south during warm months…

    Hope this helps.

    ”Be a hero… take a kid fishing”
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • hhfishermanhhfisherman Posts: 181 Deckhand
    They just open a new boat ramp right in front of the Everglades fishing com. called Everglades city marina. nide boat ramp and plenty of parking spaces for your trailer.
  • BobberreduxBobberredux Posts: 57 Deckhand
    They just open a new boat ramp right in front of the Everglades fishing com. called Everglades city marina. nide boat ramp and plenty of parking spaces for your trailer.
    That the old Capt Dan's ramp launches into Lake Placid?
  • CaptjamesCaptjames Posts: 237 Deckhand
    They just open a new boat ramp right in front of the Everglades fishing com. called Everglades city marina. nide boat ramp and plenty of parking spaces for your trailer.
    Where exactly is this ramp in Everglades City?  What is it near? Is it way North on the Barron River near the fixed bridge? 
  • CaptjamesCaptjames Posts: 237 Deckhand
    HHfisherman- is it called "Everglade Isles" where all of the dock slips are and rv park?

    i'm going over Saturday morning July 3rd and driving back Monday afternoon July 5th.  I think I am going to stop at Port of the Isles on Saturday as they have live shrimp right there at the ramp (and fuel).  I looked up and saw the slow speed zone is 3.3 NM, so 35 minutes of slow speed.......versus .75NM from Everglades rod and gun.......hotel is in Everglades City.  I think Sunday and Monday I'll try to launch from Rod and Gun or the other ramp, problem is you have to go to the Marathon station for rec90/ethanol free gas, then the tackle store for live shrimp, then to the ramp....and the ramp at Everglades rod and gun sounds a little sketchy.......versus one stop shopping in Port of the Isles or Calusa (goodland).  Is Everglades City busy on 4th of July weekend?  I have a feeling not, since every hotel had availability.  
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 4,856 Captain
    That weekend you can expect max busy everywhere…. Boat ramps, tackle shops, motels…

    Me… I’d think twice about even working a charter - anywhere… Quite a few on the water then won’t exactly be skilled at boat launching, or boat operating, and I’d be expecting the usual holiday drunks … Great fun.
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • BobberreduxBobberredux Posts: 57 Deckhand
    If you stay at Rod & Gun the ramp fee and dockage are free, otherwise it's $20 a launch. It's ramp surface is great at any tide but the current rips thru there making loading on the trailer interesting. As Bob said, the seawall at low tide is pretty high up from a skiff. I stay there on multi day trips and leave my boat in the water, unhitch and park the trailer, Jerry cans and a small ice chest in the truck to replenish the boat. Electric and water are on the seawall. 

  • CaptjamesCaptjames Posts: 237 Deckhand
    If you stay at Rod & Gun the ramp fee and dockage are free, otherwise it's $20 a launch. It's ramp surface is great at any tide but the current rips thru there making loading on the trailer interesting. As Bob said, the seawall at low tide is pretty high up from a skiff. I stay there on multi day trips and leave my boat in the water, unhitch and park the trailer, Jerry cans and a small ice chest in the truck to replenish the boat. Electric and water are on the seawall. 

    How are the rooms there?  How is the restaurant?  I've read reviews and they say the rooms are very dated.

    I like to stay at Adventures hotel by/at Ivy house......the one right behind the Circle K, the rooms are pretty reasonable and very nice (new).  But the free launching and dockage, might really push me to Everglades rod and gun.  It's much easier to be able to just tie up for the night and not have to do the trailer back and forth on the ramp routine. 
  • hhfishermanhhfisherman Posts: 181 Deckhand
    Captjames said:
    They just open a new boat ramp right in front of the Everglades fishing com. called Everglades city marina. nide boat ramp and plenty of parking spaces for your trailer.
    Where exactly is this ramp in Everglades City?  What is it near? Is it way North on the Barron River near the fixed bridge? 
    It's in front of the Everglades fishing company. They used to be captain's Jack airboat. It's in lake placid.
  • BobberreduxBobberredux Posts: 57 Deckhand
    Rooms are nothing fancy but they are clean,beds are comfy and the window AC keeps them cold. Note they do not provide a coffee pot so bring your own. They do have a mini fridge. The restaurant is ok but a bit pricey. I usually eat at the Island Cafe,great burgers and a killer shrimp basket, very fair pricing. Also note R&G does not take plastic,cash or check only for everything. 
    Not having to deal with a boat ramp every morning is priceless,not to mention the night fishing for snook and tarpon in the River using only your troller to work all the docks of EVC. Or if you feel adventurous,head down to the mouth of Indian Key Pass with some heavy rods and fresh lady fish chunks to try for the big tarpon there at this time of year.
  • CaptjamesCaptjames Posts: 237 Deckhand
    Thank you all for the info guys.  I am most likely going to launch at Port of the Isles the day I drive over (Saturday), then to the hotel Saturday night, then launch at Rod and Gun Sunday and Monday.......will take a look at Rod and Gun club while I'm over there.......
  • thecawthecaw Posts: 39 Deckhand
    They just open a new boat ramp right in front of the Everglades fishing com. called Everglades city marina. nide boat ramp and plenty of parking spaces for your trailer.
    They just open a new boat ramp right in front of the Everglades fishing com. called Everglades city marina. nide boat ramp and plenty of parking spaces for your trailer.
    That whole **** lake placid place along with the canal isn’t but a foot deep. Unless you are in a skiff you are going to get stranded either going out or coming in. 
  • CaptjamesCaptjames Posts: 237 Deckhand
    Rooms are nothing fancy but they are clean,beds are comfy and the window AC keeps them cold. Note they do not provide a coffee pot so bring your own. They do have a mini fridge. The restaurant is ok but a bit pricey. I usually eat at the Island Cafe,great burgers and a killer shrimp basket, very fair pricing. Also note R&G does not take plastic,cash or check only for everything. 
    Not having to deal with a boat ramp every morning is priceless,not to mention the night fishing for snook and tarpon in the River using only your troller to work all the docks of EVC. Or if you feel adventurous,head down to the mouth of Indian Key Pass with some heavy rods and fresh lady fish chunks to try for the big tarpon there at this time of year.
    I don't need a fancy room, just clean and comfortable with a good a/c.  I think I will stay at Everglades rod and gun club next time, because launching and retrieving the boat every single day wastes a lot of time, especially if several people are in front of you.

     I just bought the boat a few weeks ago, and the previous owner cut off all of the boats wiring, left it all there in a mess everywhere,  and started rewiring it, but never finished.....so the things he used (2 livewell pumps, trolling motor, stereo, MANUAL bilge switch) work, but right now auto bilge switch, nav lights, 3rd livewell pump, fuel sender, etc. isn't wired.  So I don't want to leave it in the water overnight until I get a wire run to the auto switch.  Also my Yamaha command link gauges lost all info when I used it the first weekend after I bought it (on the 2nd day) and fuel management gauge didn't work when I bought the boat.  So, I have the gauges and entire command link rigging kit from the engine to the gauges on order from Yamaha, but of course back ordered until 8/1/21

    I'm in the process of going through everything and doing everything right.  I own a Yacht Management business and am a Yacht Captain (do lot's of deliveries).  But trying to use the boat in between too, so it gives me more incentive to work on it.  It's really hard to go to work on your days off so to speak LOL  I put a new fuel sender in and ran new wires for that. I just went through the entire trailer- new lights/wiring, new hubs/wheels tires, and new bunk supports........My plan this week is mount the chart plotter, install a temporary analog fuel gauge until the yamaha gauges get here (although I just fill it everynight and leave full and have a 100 mile range with a good safety margin), try to get all of my wiring run and terminated where it should be.........then when the yamaha gauges get here, pull the console up and connect all of the new wiring under the dash all at once, and get every piece of old wiring out of the boat and rigged the way it should be, clean.  There's a lot more little stuff on the list, but plan to knock it all out. 
  • MGDMGD Posts: 1,249 Officer
    Grab a pitcher of bloody mary's from the Port of the island bar the night before. Keep cold and enjoy the quiet no wake ride to the outside!

  • Paucan6005Paucan6005 Posts: 95 Deckhand
    When you head out from the port be careful at 28. Keep right of the next red marker by a good margin. The port side of the channel is very skinny and on the way back in when you hit 23 be careful going around that corner sometimes people blast around without cutting wide keep marker to your starboard and if another boat is coming hard lookout 
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 4,856 Captain
    Good advice Paucan... 
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • CaptjamesCaptjames Posts: 237 Deckhand
    Initial plan was to drive over Saturday morning and fish friday-Monday.  But with the hurricane forecast decided to drive home Monday morning.  Even though the hurricane slowed down it showed it was going to rain like hell starting at 11am on Monday.  So nixed Port of the islands.  

    Saturday we drove straight to Everglades Productions and launched out of there.  They had shrimp etc.  Going out was no problem as it was a higher tide.  Coming back was no problem either, but a bit of pucker factor with the depths and slalom course you have to do to get in there.  I somehow managed to miss a turn and ran into that bay South of Chokoloskee from Rabbit Key Pass.  We caught some trout and lady fish, tons of small mangroves, and lots of nasty catfish.........

    Sunday- A really nice couple with a Carolina Skiff told us that our hotel allows you to launch out of Capt Jack's airboats for free in Everglades City.  It's on the North side, just West of the road bridge that goes to EC.  Ramp was good.  There was NO live shrimp to be found.  So we went out to Chatham river, my wife working a red head/white feather jig, and me working a popping cork and DOA shrimp.  No luck.  I have never had any luck working a DOA shrimp.  My wife is really new to fishing and her casting and working a jig, well is an interesting experience.  So we called and ran into Chokoloskee around 11:30 when they got shrimp and back to a spot we have near Pavillion.......caught a few trout, lots of other fish (mangroves, lady fish, catfish etc,).  Guys were limiting out on trout right off of Indian Key Pass.  A lot of guys reporting catching a lot of nice snook also. 

    Florida Marine Tracks- The chip is excellent when zoomed in relatively close......like a mile or so.......but when traveling I find it has way too much crap on the screen to be useful......too many track lines, too much writing, and just looks like a blurry mess, and the satellite images are hard to sort through when zoomed out to find the island you're looking for.  So traveling in the gulf, I generally would switch to my C-map chip then switch back to FMT when I got close.  But wouldn't want to rely on just the one chip.  But also I generally cruise at 40 mph, sometimes 45 mph, 40 mph is 4000 rpms and under that the boat likes to start bow hopping, so you're covering ground faster at that speed. 

    We're learning a few things along the way.  I need to pick up a cast net.  The couple with a carolina skiff's M.O. was to fish early and come back around 11am then go back out around 4:30 and fish to dark.  THAT seems to make a lot more sense than fishing until 4 pm and coming in totally fried.  It was HOT out there.  Problem is, launching and retrieving the boat off of the trailer twice a day is a pain too.......but we're having fun.  

    Going to go up to Stuart next and fish the river up there.  I have a couple of really good spots from when I lived up there in the late 90's.  
  • BobberreduxBobberredux Posts: 57 Deckhand
    "only mad dogs and Englishmen go into the noonday sun".
    The skiff couple gave you good advice, fish early to noon,back to the dock for a shower and a siesta, fish the late afternoon after the usual thunderstorms when the air and water is cooler. Many local guides offer full day split charters because they don't want to be wasting their time fishing after 12 noon. Like I said, fish after dark for the Jurassic Park experience. And avoid sun stroke and heat exhaustion.
  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 11,931 AG
    Sometimes right after that daily 3ish downpour the big Snook will be waking right at the top in the cooler zone on the outside Island edges.
    They just cruise down the Coast looking for trouble.
    Their not shy at All and a Topwater worked in their path will have you shaking...

    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • CaptjamesCaptjames Posts: 237 Deckhand
    edited July 2021 #22
    Sometimes right after that daily 3ish downpour the big Snook will be waking right at the top in the cooler zone on the outside Island edges.
    They just cruise down the Coast looking for trouble.
    Their not shy at All and a Topwater worked in their path will have you shaking...

    Yeah.  I'm going to do the split days next time.  What I really want to catch are redfish, but seems there's none around then.  Probably are some now since it's been raining. I would've done another trip this week, but work is getting in the way of that.  Also have my MIL here from Colombia for a month.  So probably going to rent a 2 bedroom cottage in Jensen Beach next.  They have a dock, so easy to come in at lunch time and relax for a while and go back out. Plus I know the fishing spots there.  
  • Egrets LandingEgrets Landing Posts: 956 Officer
    Captjames said:


    Florida Marine Tracks- The chip is excellent when zoomed in relatively close......like a mile or so.......but when traveling I find it has way too much crap on the screen to be useful......too many track lines, too much writing, and just looks like a blurry mess, and the satellite images are hard to sort through when zoomed out to find the island you're looking for.  

     
    That is why the chart was designed with  with dozens of separate map layers.  If you don't turn off the layers that are irrelevant for the task at hand, the chart is too busy and especially on small displays.   All of the items you were complaining about can be turned off.  You can even turn them all off and just run on images if you like or just images and pvc stakes and markers  if you want or any other combination.   No one that understands the ISLA FMT product  well runs with all or most of the layers always ON (particularly Area features like "Manatee Zones" and "Managed Areas and/or Poll and Troll Zones").  Most captains turn all of it off and just run on the images and perhaps markers as well with no tracks.  If you don't know how to turn off the layers, it is covered in detail on posted video and also in the directions provided on the front page of the ISLA website.
  • CaptjamesCaptjames Posts: 237 Deckhand
    I turned on the off the features that Isla Mapping recommend in the instructions.  I like the FMT chip, just find it too busy when zoomed out further.  I'll try messing with turning stuff off next time.  I've found it's easier to just switch back and forth between FMT for shallower water running and close up stuff, and the the Cmap chip that came with my unit for running the gulf North or South and skirting the points of the islands
  • Egrets LandingEgrets Landing Posts: 956 Officer
    It is an issue if you leave lots of layers turned on with small displays.  ISLA never recommends 7 inch units or smaller.  9" is the minimum recommended and even that is tiny as the part that lights to view is only about 4" from top to bottom.    For a precision navigation tool that allows zooming to about 100' with clarity so you can see what side of the stake you need to be on, bigger is much better.    Nevertheless, whatever you are seeing that makes it too busy for you on  your display can be turned off in a few seconds and also back on in a few seconds.  It was designed that way on purpose.  
  • CaptjamesCaptjames Posts: 237 Deckhand
    Got it.  I have a 9" display.  When I mean it's too busy, it's when I zoom out so you can see say 4 miles of distance.
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