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Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 9,929 Admiral
Sooo, The current Government wants to send Cash American to the South of the border Country's as a Cash Infusion ...We know how that works from our experiences in Afghanistan ect.
Waste of time and the Big Wigs suck it dry.
We can all agree that the current border is a mess..A Big Mess..and it's been that way for years , always will be unless..
We stop having our T shirts made in Singapore..Our trinkets and clay pots made in China.
Why can't we put them down far South folks to work and buy our handmade goods there..
Why are we spending all our money supporting some one that hates us..
Kinda like a Marshall Plan for the folks close by.
Change my mind...
Killin and Grillin :grin

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  • dave44dave44 Posts: 15,540 AG
    I think the pay is supposed to make them feel better about staying home.
        But we know those people will never see that money anyway.
            Amazingly stupid ideas coming out time after time.
  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 38,986 AG
    Sooo, The current Government wants to send Cash American to the South of the border Country's as a Cash Infusion ...We know how that works from our experiences in Afghanistan ect.
    Waste of time and the Big Wigs suck it dry.
    We can all agree that the current border is a mess..A Big Mess..and it's been that way for years , always will be unless..
    We stop having our T shirts made in Singapore..Our trinkets and clay pots made in China.
    Why can't we put them down far South folks to work and buy our handmade goods there..
    Why are we spending all our money supporting some one that hates us..
    Kinda like a Marshall Plan for the folks close by.
    Change my mind...
    South American and Central American governments are notoriously unstable. to invest the money American Companies have in China and such, you want stability in the government to control the labor pool. 

    Maybe the infusion will help stabilize the government eventually. 

    Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 9,929 Admiral
    edited April 2021 #4
    Maybe a couple hundred million and the 101 Airborne for starters..
    Their Banana Republics for cryin out loud.
    If your gonna Nation Build..let's do it close to the House..
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • tom waxelbaumtom waxelbaum Posts: 662 Officer
    If we don't the" Belt and Road" will.
  • GardawgGardawg IslamoradaPosts: 13,517 AG
    Could our foreign policy possible have influenced the under development of these  'banana republics' institutions of governance?




    "Forgiveness is a strange thing. It can be sometimes easier to forgive our enemies than our friends. It can be hardest of all to forgive people we love." Fred Rogers  
  • kellerclkellercl Posts: 11,041 AG
    I believe in being isolated.  Bring jobs back and worry about our people.  The rest of the world isn't our problem. 
    #Lead beakerhead specialist 

    "Soul of the mind, key to life's ether. Soul of the lost, withdrawn from its vessel. Let strength be granted, so the world might be mended. So the world might be mended."
  • swampdogswampdog Central FloridaPosts: 3,351 Captain
    Don’t worry, according to the new administration we are an embarrassment to the rest of the world, because of the “firearm mayhem virus”. No one wants to visit or move to this ugly state of affairs.

    The last four years were difficult too watch. The last four months have been difficult too watch...
  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 38,986 AG
    edited April 2021 #10
    Maybe a couple hundred million and the 101 Airborne for starters..
    Their Banana Republics for cryin out loud.
    If your gonna Nation Build..let's do it close to the House..
    Who do you think made them banana republics? That was our first attempt at stabilizing those governments. Put our handpicked dictators in charge. 

    Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • fishinbugfishinbug Posts: 496 Deckhand
    United Fruit Company


  • Mango ManMango Man Posts: 12,743 AG
    edited April 2021 #12
    How about we start(and end) with helping our own people.
    Winner!!

    How about we give senior citizens 50K a year and get them out of the poverty level as opposed to bailing out the college students who spend 100K on a 4 year degree that earns 16,500 a year. 


    America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
    Abraham Lincoln
  • gogittumgogittum Nature CoastPosts: 2,709 Captain
    Mango Man said:
    How about we start(and end) with helping our own people.
    Winner!!

    How about we senior citizens 50K a year and get them out of the poverty level as opposed to bailing out college students who 100K on a 4 year that earns 16,500 a year. 
    HoooBoy, yah.  Not even 50K.....just enuf to live on.
  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 9,929 Admiral
    I'd prefer to take care of our Lay abouts before South American Lay abouts..but it seems like the Border cra.p has been going on forever and nobody has the political will to do anything about it.
    It's never gonna be fixed now so I'm thinkin we have to do something even if it's not perfect...something.
    Why are we Nation building the Sandbox , We should be doing this a lot closer to home.
    I think a lot of our Terrorist problems are because we won't leave them folks alone.
    If we left the Sandbox in 20 years they'd forget about us and get back to killing each other.
    We're what you'd call a Common Enemy and have rallied them around each other to kill the Big Satan...just leave and if we need to Nuke them from above...
    We still have Global Reach and them Missile Silos out west are rusting  away
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • dogman18dogman18 Posts: 552 Officer
    The Law of Unintended Consequence prevails.

    “There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.”
    ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
  • Big BatteryBig Battery Posts: 21,558 AG
    I'd prefer to take care of our Lay abouts before South American Lay abouts..but it seems like the Border cra.p has been going on forever and nobody has the political will to do anything about it.
    It's never gonna be fixed now so I'm thinkin we have to do something even if it's not perfect...something.
    Why are we Nation building the Sandbox , We should be doing this a lot closer to home.
    I think a lot of our Terrorist problems are because we won't leave them folks alone.
    If we left the Sandbox in 20 years they'd forget about us and get back to killing each other.
    We're what you'd call a Common Enemy and have rallied them around each other to kill the Big Satan...just leave and if we need to Nuke them from above...
    We still have Global Reach and them Missile Silos out west are rusting  away
    Its about oil. Nothing else, just oil. If South America had oil, we'd be spreading "democracy" there too.
  • CountryBumpkinCountryBumpkin Fla. Piney WoodsPosts: 1,892 Captain
    Gardawg said:
    Could our foreign policy possible have influenced the under development of these  'banana republics' institutions of governance?





    "Not to the best of my recollection"............ ;)

  • louislouis Posts: 75 Deckhand
    If they want to forgive student loans how about forgiving my mortgage and auto loan.  Same thing.  They owe I owe whats the difference.  Differenc is responsibility.  I signed I am going to pay.  They signed they need to pay.  Problem is liberals giving to people instead of making them earn it.
  • jetmech2jetmech2 Panhandle Posts: 1,454 Officer
    Gardawg said:
    Could our foreign policy possible have influenced the under development of these  'banana republics' institutions of governance?




    Those dictators left the stage years ago. 
     It’s a cultural thing. 
  • jetmech2jetmech2 Panhandle Posts: 1,454 Officer
    I'd prefer to take care of our Lay abouts before South American Lay abouts..but it seems like the Border cra.p has been going on forever and nobody has the political will to do anything about it.
    It's never gonna be fixed now so I'm thinkin we have to do something even if it's not perfect...something.
    Why are we Nation building the Sandbox , We should be doing this a lot closer to home.
    I think a lot of our Terrorist problems are because we won't leave them folks alone.
    If we left the Sandbox in 20 years they'd forget about us and get back to killing each other.
    We're what you'd call a Common Enemy and have rallied them around each other to kill the Big Satan...just leave and if we need to Nuke them from above...
    We still have Global Reach and them Missile Silos out west are rusting  away
    Its about oil. Nothing else, just oil. If South America had oil, we'd be spreading "democracy" there too.
    Explain Venezuela then. 
  • jetmech2jetmech2 Panhandle Posts: 1,454 Officer
    The problem is the US State department. 
     They think that a fat check written to the government of country X will fix the problems. It never has worked. It just fattens the bank accounts of the rulers. 
  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 9,929 Admiral
    Its about oil. Nothing else, just oil. If South America had oil, we'd be spreading "democracy" there 


    Google oil reserves..South American..might surprise you..Think Hugo.
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 11,104 AG
    jetmech2 said:
    The problem is the US State department. 
     They think that a fat check written to the government of country X will fix the problems. It never has worked. It just fattens the bank accounts of the rulers. 
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcos

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 38,986 AG
    jetmech2 said:
    I'd prefer to take care of our Lay abouts before South American Lay abouts..but it seems like the Border cra.p has been going on forever and nobody has the political will to do anything about it.
    It's never gonna be fixed now so I'm thinkin we have to do something even if it's not perfect...something.
    Why are we Nation building the Sandbox , We should be doing this a lot closer to home.
    I think a lot of our Terrorist problems are because we won't leave them folks alone.
    If we left the Sandbox in 20 years they'd forget about us and get back to killing each other.
    We're what you'd call a Common Enemy and have rallied them around each other to kill the Big Satan...just leave and if we need to Nuke them from above...
    We still have Global Reach and them Missile Silos out west are rusting  away
    Its about oil. Nothing else, just oil. If South America had oil, we'd be spreading "democracy" there too.
    Explain Venezuela then. 
    Or Brazil, Columbia, Peru. and a few other South American oil producers. Venezuela has larger reserves than Saudi Arabia. 

    Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • ferris1248ferris1248 Posts: 17,673 Moderator
    edited April 2021 #25
    I'd prefer to take care of our Lay abouts before South American Lay abouts..but it seems like the Border cra.p has been going on forever and nobody has the political will to do anything about it.
    It's never gonna be fixed now so I'm thinkin we have to do something even if it's not perfect...something.
    Why are we Nation building the Sandbox , We should be doing this a lot closer to home.
    I think a lot of our Terrorist problems are because we won't leave them folks alone.
    If we left the Sandbox in 20 years they'd forget about us and get back to killing each other.
    We're what you'd call a Common Enemy and have rallied them around each other to kill the Big Satan...just leave and if we need to Nuke them from above...
    We still have Global Reach and them Missile Silos out west are rusting  away
    Its about oil. Nothing else, just oil. If South America had oil, we'd be spreading "democracy" there too.
    LMAO......"If South America had oil".

    Maybe only the richest deposits in the world.

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."

    Rabbi Hillel (c20 BCE)

  • MelbourneMarkMelbourneMark Posts: 3,562 Captain
    Legalize drugs here. That will take a lot of money from the cartels. Step 2, enforce our immigration laws. Step 3, gtfo of the Middle East, Europe and Africa. Let themselves sort it out. Basically be like Sweden
  • Big BatteryBig Battery Posts: 21,558 AG
    So the illegal invasion is coming from oil rich countries? Jeez.
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