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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 13,270 AG
    L8RBRA said:
    mplspug said:
    L8RBRA said:
    4WARD said:
    Enjoying this read.
     I have lost more blood over the last 2 months than with any other pup. He pierced my nose from the inside out 2 weeks ago, my arms are shredded.
    Last weekend, he just stopped.
    Just like that, just like every other pup I’ve raised.
    Let em be pups, collars are for working dogs and have their place but you gotta let a dog be a dog and do your part first.


    He is adorable. Mine is almost 7 months and still throwing temper tantrums and zooming around the house uncontrollably. He will even occasionally lunge at us and nip while doing so. I've raised 4 labs and this one has got me at my wits end. Time for him to listen
    LOL, sounds just like my pug the first year.  

    I haven't followed the topic closely, do you have any other dogs?  Curious, because the pug has tuned out to be dominant and would be curious if yours ends up being dominant. 
    No we dont. We put my ole boy down last fall at 15yrs old. Morgan is his replacement. Even at 8 weeks old he seemed to be the dominant one in the litter. I have done everything short of beat his ****. I have mounted him and made him give up over 100 times. He is normally good after that because he has expelled all energy trying to fight me while I restrain him. 
    One of the things I feel bad about is not getting her out and playing with her enough  she's cooped up all day in the house and when i get home i have to make food for my mother in law when i want to taker her out and get some of that puppy energy out.  When we took her to the dog park on Saturday she played for a solid hour with other dogs, ran her little butt off, jumped in the kiddy pool and when we brought her back home she was exhausted and so well behaved.  
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  • L8RBRAL8RBRA St. LouisPosts: 694 Officer
    L8RBRA said:
    One of the things I feel bad about is not getting her out and playing with her enough  she's cooped up all day in the house and when i get home i have to make food for my mother in law when i want to taker her out and get some of that puppy energy out.  When we took her to the dog park on Saturday she played for a solid hour with other dogs, ran her little butt off, jumped in the kiddy pool and when we brought her back home she was exhausted and so well behaved.  
    Agreed, My wife walks him once maybe twice a day. He has meltdowns on the walks too where he will lay down and not walk. She will try and pick him up and he gets very nippy. I hope we have found the solution for his stubborn ****. Expelling the energy is key but in life we dont always have that extra time to spend doing so. The days we hit the river are great because of wearing him out. I wish every day was a river day honestly. He is always so good for 24 hours after. He still needs to listen more and do as we say. He knows all of his commands. Everything from sit to come to rollover. So there is no excuse for not knowing what we are saying. Just simply defiant.
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 13,270 AG
    Ruby hates walks too.  she'd just assume sit on her butt in the front yard as walk i guess walks are too boring for her.  But that dog park was heaven for her.   I hope you find a good solution i know it's exhausting dealing with a defiant pup.  
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  • L8RBRAL8RBRA St. LouisPosts: 694 Officer
    Ruby hates walks too.  she'd just assume sit on her butt in the front yard as walk i guess walks are too boring for her.  But that dog park was heaven for her.   I hope you find a good solution i know it's exhausting dealing with a defiant pup.  
    I hope I bought the solution yesterday.....


  • GarysmoGarysmo Ft. Pierce, FloridaPosts: 1,514 Captain
    Another idea for dealing with dogs with tons of energy besides lots of exercise is mental games.  My lab was off the chart with energy.  We were doing 8-10 mile runs in the morning and hour and half walks in the evening....still not enough to tire him out.  I then started teaching him anything and everything.  We worked on retrieving stuff...hand signals, doubles, blind retrieve, etc.  Also added "parlor" tricks....did obstacle courses, scenting.  There are even brain game toys you can buy that rewards with a treat.  It definitely helped.  Good luck
  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,584 AG
    You mounted him?  :#

    I think eventually he will realize that praise is better than getting yelled at and trying to get a rise out of you.  That's what happened with our dog.  Although I still have to catch myself being angry.  When you get angry and are vocal with a dominant dog it just seems to ramp them up. 

    When a dog hear a doorbell or sees someone from a fenced in yard, what do they do.  They bark and run around in excitement.  When we get angry at a dog, this is what we show them and they take it as excitement.  But if you are calm and use other techniques to correct them they understand.  Have you ever seen a mom trying to correct a pup by barking at it? 

    If I learned anything from watching the dog whisperer it is that we communicate with dogs as if they are humans when we should be using dog language they can understand. 

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  • L8RBRAL8RBRA St. LouisPosts: 694 Officer
    mplspug said:
    You mounted him?  :#


    Ha, Yes. It helps most dogs understand who is the dominate one. Mine forgets this daily even though I enforce it constantly. They will fight you until they cant. Even whine and cry. I look for the deep breath which is their sign of giving up. 
  • sailfish2sailfish2 Posts: 4,315 Captain
    I miss my labs something fierce, but god almighty, the heartbreak when they pass is almost to much to bare.

    Every time I think I will get another the remembering of the heartbreak of them passing just tears apart.

    Maybe its old age and I am growing to soft, I dont know......

    Gotta go get a hankie, seems to be something in my eyes.
    Hoping for better luck next time...... and got it.

    WINNING!
  • L8RBRAL8RBRA St. LouisPosts: 694 Officer
    sailfish2 said:
    I miss my labs something fierce, but god almighty, the heartbreak when they pass is almost to much to bare.

    Every time I think I will get another the remembering of the heartbreak of them passing just tears apart.

    Maybe its old age and I am growing to soft, I dont know......

    Gotta go get a hankie, seems to be something in my eyes.
    I'm not crying, you're crying! ;)

    Yes Sir, I agree completely. I filled that void with this new pup. I will deal with the loss when I have to. The loss is not worse that all of the great memories and companionship over the years.
  • sailfish2sailfish2 Posts: 4,315 Captain
    I agree but ****, its such a viscous circle.
    Hoping for better luck next time...... and got it.

    WINNING!
  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Posts: 3,446 Captain
    I don’t feel particularly sad when they die if they’ve lived a full and happy life. At least not any sort of sadness that lasts more than a few hours or a day or so. 

    I would be more bothered by one dying in their prime. Half because the animal itself didn’t get to fully enjoy life and half because I’ve lost a resource that will take time and money to replace. Depending on the genetic quality of the dog, one I may not be able to replace at all. 

    I do see dogs as having to serve a purpose beyond companionship or else I’m not interested in them. I wouldn’t keep any dogs if I didn’t primarily want them as a line of defense for my family and livestock. 

    About the only real softness I have for them is I couldn’t ever give away or sell one once its bonded to me. I would pity the dog waiting indefinitely for me to come pick it up and not understanding why its master is gone forever. That makes me a lot sadder to think about than a dog that lives happily in my care then up and dies. 

    If I woke up tomorrow and decided that I didn’t need a dog for defense, I’d let the two I have live out their lives with me. Then once they died a natural death I’d just move on and be content to not have another one. 

    As it is, I have a catahoula puppy coming to me as a second outside dog to stay outside at night with my redbone hound. I figure the two of them will amp up the varmint patrol together. The hound will smell the critters and the catahoula will kill them. Brunson the bulldog sleeps in the house at night. 

    I also figure my daughter will enjoy a companion dog when she gets old enough. Thinking of getting her a little French bulldog. 
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 13,270 AG
    sailfish2 said:
    I agree but ****, its such a viscous circle.
    when our dog Bear died after 15yrs we were devastated.    And it took over 2 years for me to really seriously consider getting a dog.  I'm glad we did now and we love Ruby like crazy.  I pick her up and squeeze the bejesus out of her sometimes because shes too **** cute.   The first go round with bear i was working 70hrs a week and i really wasn't there for any of his puppy months.   It's both more fun and more challenging with Ruby.
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  • L8RBRAL8RBRA St. LouisPosts: 694 Officer
    @Florida Bullfrog
    I have had both. Most lived their best life and passed at 11+ years old as labs typically do. I had one that we lost at 6yrs due to Cancer. That was the thorn in my side. It killed me inside having to put him down with him licking my face as the injection was given. Almost like he was comforting me. Worst thing I have ever had to do. Having a dog in their old age prepares you for their passing. Its still never a easy thing to cope with.
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 13,270 AG
    Cant zap my squish
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  • 2amigo2amigo Posts: 5,866 Admiral
    L8RBRA said:
    Ruby hates walks too.  she'd just assume sit on her butt in the front yard as walk i guess walks are too boring for her.  But that dog park was heaven for her.   I hope you find a good solution i know it's exhausting dealing with a defiant pup.  
    I hope I bought the solution yesterday.....



    We got one for our dog but only had to use the vibration part and then just the beeping noise.  He is smart but would get real scatterbrained.  When you hit the button it would just bring him back into focus.  We don't need it anymore.  One time though my wife bumped into a chair when the remote control was in her pocket and hit the shock button.  LOL.  Scared the crap out of the dog as he yelped and reared up, then just stood there wondering what the phck just happened.  LOL
  • sailfish2sailfish2 Posts: 4,315 Captain
    Happy and a bit jealous of you L8, enjoy!!
    Hoping for better luck next time...... and got it.

    WINNING!
  • GarysmoGarysmo Ft. Pierce, FloridaPosts: 1,514 Captain
    sailfish2 said:
    I miss my labs something fierce, but god almighty, the heartbreak when they pass is almost to much to bare.

    Every time I think I will get another the remembering of the heartbreak of them passing just tears apart.

    Maybe its old age and I am growing to soft, I dont know......

    Gotta go get a hankie, seems to be something in my eyes.
    I know what you mean.  I had to put my last one down at 10 yrs old, he had cancer.  I remember the day like it was yesterday and always get something in my eyes as well. 
  • L8RBRAL8RBRA St. LouisPosts: 694 Officer
    Cant zap my squish
    Actually, after reading the manuals included.... The shock stimulation is more of a jerk of the collar type correction. Not meant to make the dog yelp unless the dog is in danger to itself or others. Thats the only time you should turn it up. The lower settings is only supposed to be enough for the dog to feel it and not hurt em. Per the training manual included in the Sport Dog E-Collar. This is more of a complete training deal when you use one of these. The dog should know all of its Sit stay heel and lay down commands way before you ever use the collar. Its the whole package when you commit to using one. Luckily Morgan already knows everything except heel. Thats 90% of the training needed to graduate to the collar. 

    I want a obedient dog in the end. If this is what it takes then I am going to give it a shot. 
    If you buy a shock collar and just strap it on and use it when the dog is acting up.... You're doing it wrong according to everything I have read in researching these shock collars. 
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 13,270 AG
    I know i need to read the manual.   When i pulled the collar out of the box it had these two anodes sticking out and they looked menacing.   I'm sure at one point we are going to need to use it because she gets psycho from time to time.  It's normally only for about 5 minutes but during that time she wants to go bite crazy.   We are also going to start freezing full size carrots and using them as chew toys for her. 
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  • L8RBRAL8RBRA St. LouisPosts: 694 Officer
    I know i need to read the manual.   When i pulled the collar out of the box it had these two anodes sticking out and they looked menacing.   I'm sure at one point we are going to need to use it because she gets psycho from time to time.  It's normally only for about 5 minutes but during that time she wants to go bite crazy.   We are also going to start freezing full size carrots and using them as chew toys for her. 
    Yep, Get use to noticing when the Zoomies are about to start and head that off with putting her in the kennel. Puppies need 18 hours a day of sleep. What you are experiencing is being overly tired but still full of energy. Its best to get her in the kennel calmly prior in opposed to pissed off later when its too late. 
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 13,270 AG
    The larger kennel has been a godsend.   The smaller one was way too tight she couldn't stand up anymore.   This one is for dogs up to 60pounds so it's probably going to be her permanent home and she is much more comfortable in it. 
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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 13,270 AG
    edited October 19 #143
    17 weeks and growing like a weed 
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  • L8RBRAL8RBRA St. LouisPosts: 694 Officer
    Wow! Cute pup! That face tho


  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 13,270 AG
    Labs...50% love, 50% mischief.    
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  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,584 AG
    Puppies...50% love, 50% mischief.    

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  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,584 AG
    My pug terrorized me for a year as a pup.  Now he follows me around like a curious child, always at my side 

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  • mindyabinessmindyabiness Posts: 6,424 Admiral


    What did you get?

    Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon... No matter how good you are, the bird is going to crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,584 AG
    That is one cute puppy from what little I can see.

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  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Posts: 3,446 Captain
    edited October 22 #151
    She’s a catahoula blue leopard. Not named yet. A co-worker raises some good ones and I wanted one as a second outside dog to run with my hound and help her kill varmints. My wife and daughter have taken to her quick and my daughter is giving me the silent treatment because I’m making the puppy sleep on the porch with the hound. 
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