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  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 17,010 AG
    edited April 8 #3812
    You know exactly who I was talking about, of course.

    I was stating an inconvenient fact as to who shut down this country and this state.

    But as is typical, you would choose to ignore that and make it about something else.  So please go ahead, or even go off on another unrelated tangent, but it doesn't change them.

    Incidentally, nobody worships the FDA, but I'm sure you are happy the medicines they approve are safe to use and we are not left to the devices of the companies that invent and manufacture them.
  • Bimini_TwistedBimini_Twisted TampaPosts: 2,060 Captain
    Would another round of bigger direct cash payment, say 5K, to SS# holders, supported b y both sides be considered a turn towards Socialism?

    Because that's coming next to keep the wolves at bay.
  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 32,095 AG
    edited April 8 #3814
    Would another round of bigger direct cash payment, say 5K, to SS# holders, supported b y both sides be considered a turn towards Socialism?

    Because that's coming next to keep the wolves at bay.
    the next measure include a payroll-tax cut, a capital-gains tax cut, the creation of 50-year Treasury bonds and a waiver that would clear businesses of liability from employees who get the coronavirus causing COVID-19 while working.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/phase-4-coronavirus-package-could-pass-congress-between-late-april-and-mid-may-analysts-say-2020-04-06

    i like this one, I hope the government is giving them the $25,000 hazard pay. 


    Some* Leaders expect that someone* will attempt to attach any of a number of  * priorities to the request, such as up to $25,000 in hazard pay for essential workers, including doctors and nurses as well as grocery store clerks, Someone's* aides say.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/491687-phase-four-virus-relief-hits-a-wall

    The only part as see as a reality will be the additional $250 billion in funding for the PPP loans as that program will run out of cash in about two weeks. 

    *Edited due to some snowflake getting triggered. If you want to read the unedited versions, click on the links. 

    Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • Bimini_TwistedBimini_Twisted TampaPosts: 2,060 Captain
    I'm only going by what the fellow at the very top is saying, but then again, he did use words, and you know how that goes. So who knows?
  • Big BatteryBig Battery Posts: 20,532 AG
    You know exactly who I was talking about, of course.

    I was stating an inconvenient fact as to who shut down this country and this state.

    But as is typical, you would choose to ignore that and make it about something else.  So please go ahead, or even go off on another unrelated tangent, but it doesn't change them.

    Incidentally, nobody worships the FDA, but I'm sure you are happy the medicines they approve are safe to use and we are not left to the devices of the companies that invent and manufacture them.

    More people die due to a lack of a approval waiting for something to be allowed.
  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 6,862 Admiral
    Well I guess Ferris will have to earn his money this week during this unique time in history. He will  have to make more decisions than Judge Judy.

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 10,426 AG
    edited April 8 #3818
    Do you think anyone really wants this to go on for a long time, John?
    At first I thought no. But, I am beginning to rethink that. 
    “Never let a crisis go to waste”. 
    The media is loving the eyes glued to the set and their (horribly-written) web pages.  Everyone stuck at home, checking in repeatedly thru the day, or worse, binging on the news. Doesn't matter if it's FOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc.  They are not going to let this go away without a fight. And they control the dissemination of the info, and are all too happy to interpret it for you as well!
    I have never seen live bones, but I know that they are often used by rich people to decorate the interior.
  • SaltwaterdawgSaltwaterdawg Too far from the gulfPosts: 1,404 Officer
    Could we rename this thread,  The Caronavirus/ gotcha thread? 
  • CageyCagey Central FloridaPosts: 917 Officer
    edited April 8 #3820
    The media is loving the eyes glued to the set and their (horribly-written) web pages.  Everyone stuck at home, checking in repeatedly thru the day, or worse, binging on the news. Doesn't matter if it's FOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc.  They are not going to let this go away without a fight. And they control the dissemination of the info, and are all too happy to interpret it for you as well!
    So true which is why as of lately I do not even turn on the news. I KNOW what will be in there. The only news I want to hear or read is vaccine ready for distribution or, antibody treatment ready for distribution. All else is bad, bad, bad!

    -Truth correction- I will read a little bit online news like this one:

    Britain joins growing chorus of countries furious with China's faulty coronavirus equipment


    Would be nice if this push to force China to improve quality flowed over into their reels and fishing tackle as well!

    Wuhan may be celebrating, but another Chinese city has gone into lockdown over coronavirus

  • captbonefishcaptbonefish UmatilaPosts: 910 Officer
    Cagey said:
    The media is loving the eyes glued to the set and their (horribly-written) web pages.  Everyone stuck at home, checking in repeatedly thru the day, or worse, binging on the news. Doesn't matter if it's FOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc.  They are not going to let this go away without a fight. And they control the dissemination of the info, and are all too happy to interpret it for you as well!
     The only news I want to hear or read is vaccine ready for distribution or, antibody treatment ready for distribution. 
    Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx, and their boss/ business partner, Bill Gates are working on it. Until this virus is completely eliminated (never), Dr. Fauci strongly suggests a national lockdown. Dr. Emanuel concurred. 18 month lockdown for Rahm's brother. So there you go. 

    So tune in about two years from now, after the global economic depression has had a while to sink in. 

    Forget hyrdochloroquine and a Zpak. CNN and MSNBC already said they don't work and will make you blind after your heart attack. 
  • johnpowersjohnpowers BayPosts: 2,898 Captain
    Do you think anyone really wants this to go on for a long time, John?
    At first I thought no. But, I am beginning to rethink that. 
    “Never let a crisis go to waste”. 
    Please don't let politicians and news outlets confuse the issue into one of us versus them.

    We all want the same thing here.  We only differ on timing and risk, and I'd like to think we can have a rational discussion of those issues here (and at a governmental level).

    Because as soon as it becomes a partisan issue, nothing gets done....and nobody wants that.

    Said a bit differently, don't overthink this.
    I agree with you but,,,
    when there is blood in the water you know what shows up.
  • Big BatteryBig Battery Posts: 20,532 AG
    Cagey said:
    The media is loving the eyes glued to the set and their (horribly-written) web pages.  Everyone stuck at home, checking in repeatedly thru the day, or worse, binging on the news. Doesn't matter if it's FOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc.  They are not going to let this go away without a fight. And they control the dissemination of the info, and are all too happy to interpret it for you as well!
     The only news I want to hear or read is vaccine ready for distribution or, antibody treatment ready for distribution. 
    Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx, and their boss/ business partner, Bill Gates are working on it. Until this virus is completely eliminated (never), Dr. Fauci strongly suggests a national lockdown. Dr. Emanuel concurred. 18 month lockdown for Rahm's brother. So there you go. 

    So tune in about two years from now, after the global economic depression has had a while to sink in. 

    Forget hyrdochloroquine and a Zpak. CNN and MSNBC already said they don't work and will make you blind after your heart attack. 
    Riots are coming.
  • CageyCagey Central FloridaPosts: 917 Officer
    Riots are coming.
    If they are, hope they practice social distancing! Otherwise the rioters will be crying for help rather quickly.
  • 2amigo2amigo Posts: 5,702 Admiral
    captbonefish
    ”Forget hyrdochloroquine and a Zpak. CNN and MSNBC already said they don't work and will make you blind after your heart attack. “
    They need to tell that to all of those Lupus patients that have been taking it for years!
  • captbonefishcaptbonefish UmatilaPosts: 910 Officer
    2amigo said:
    captbonefish
    ”Forget hyrdochloroquine and a Zpak. CNN and MSNBC already said they don't work and will make you blind after your heart attack. “
    They need to tell that to all of those Lupus patients that have been taking it for years!
    Hopefully you noted my sarcasm.
  • johnpowersjohnpowers BayPosts: 2,898 Captain
    As been said before, the cure to this thing is probably staring everyone in the face. 
    But, most would rather reinvent the wheel.
  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 17,010 AG
    edited April 9 #3828
    Most would like a solution that actually works.

    What Mr. Powers thinks "probably" will work is not material to the decision, but does make for an interesting sidebar.  :)
  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 6,862 Admiral


     
     

     

    Forget hyrdochloroquine and a Zpak. CNN and MSNBC already said they don't work and will make you blind . 
    I should be blind already. You know what they said about masterbating. when you're young. Don't believe everything you hear.

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 32,095 AG
    edited April 9 #3830
    There are 388 clinical studies being done right now if I read this correctly

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID+19&term=&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=

    Who knows which one will be proven to work.. 

    Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,271 AG
    The ones the puppet masters want to work.

    Captain Todd Approves

  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 17,010 AG
    edited April 9 #3832
    You know exactly who I was talking about, of course.

    I was stating an inconvenient fact as to who shut down this country and this state.

    But as is typical, you would choose to ignore that and make it about something else.  So please go ahead, or even go off on another unrelated tangent, but it doesn't change them.

    Incidentally, nobody worships the FDA, but I'm sure you are happy the medicines they approve are safe to use and we are not left to the devices of the companies that invent and manufacture them.

    More people die due to a lack of a approval waiting for something to be allowed.
    Really?

    If you are talking about chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, they have already been approved, as described here:

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html

    and here is the order itself:

    Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to authorize use of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquineexternal icon

    I'll stop short of saying worship, but you should probably apologize to the FDA.  ;)
  • Bimini_TwistedBimini_Twisted TampaPosts: 2,060 Captain
    mplspug said:
    The ones the puppet masters want to work.
    Just like the testing roll-out. Gotta line the pockets before you can save lives.
  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,271 AG
    You have quite the imagination...even without tinfoil

    Captain Todd Approves

  • Bimini_TwistedBimini_Twisted TampaPosts: 2,060 Captain
    mplspug said:
    You have quite the imagination...even without tinfoil
    Today's the day for you guys to get in on the ground floor about zinc to get us out of this.

    My source is impeccable, it don't get any higher, or expertise. 
  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 32,095 AG
    I just know I have been taking my vitamin pill every day since this started. 

    Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,271 AG
    I've been drinking tonic water

    Captain Todd Approves

  • dave44dave44 Posts: 11,335 AG
    edited April 9 #3838
    mplspug said: hi
    I've been drinking tonic water
    Dmn pandemic! I’m really Sorry you ran out of beer already!
  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 12,271 AG
    It's ok, the gin makes it bearable

    Captain Todd Approves

  • dave44dave44 Posts: 11,335 AG
    mplspug said:
    It's ok, the gin makes it bearable
    Tom Collins. Nice choice.
  • BallaCoiPersiciBallaCoiPersici NW Italy (Laveno Mombello)Posts: 5,935 Admiral
    Massimo (former Ballak) - Please, be patient for my English
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    Political correctness is a mental disease that can put you in slavery. The only cure is to turn on the brain.
    We have to survive the most horrific pandemic we ever had. The Coward-20 virus.
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