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  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 17,250 AG
    edited March 2020 #32
    If one looks at China or South Korea, we can see there is light at the end of the tunnel.....if we take this seriously like they have.

    Thoughts like "this is becoming ridiculous" and that type of thinking do not help.
  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 10,455 AG
    Nor does feeding the mania and fear.  
    I have never seen live bones, but I know that they are often used by rich people to decorate the interior.
  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 37,005 AG
    If one looks at China or South Korea, we can see there is light at the end of the tunnel.....if we take this seriously like they have.

    Thoughts like "this is becoming ridiculous" and that type of thinking do not help.
    We got a choice, South Korea or Italy, which do we want to be.

    Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 17,250 AG
    We aspire to be South Korea while acting like Italy.  That's the rub.
  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 14,539 AG
    I don't want to ruffle the professionals and scientists feathers, but I think they are going to prolong this MF and we'll be in soup lines.
    Just dropping grenades in OT
  • pottydocpottydoc Port Saint JoePosts: 4,808 Captain
    L8RBRA said:
    People want to be prepared for the unknown. I get that. Nobody knows how deep this river runs. 2 weeks from now you might just understand why. Neither you or I know what will happen. 
    If it gets so bad that the municipal utilities go down, having a few cases of bottled water, and 100 rolls of tp will not be helping anyone. To begin with, other people will take it from you. No matter how you are armed, and how much of a bad a zz you think you are, you will simply be overwhelmed by numbers. 
  • bicyclistbicyclist FlardaPosts: 1,654 Captain
    Not sure the US will outdo south korea with this crisis. Our leadership is about as stupid as it gets. Not even bag boy material.
  • BallaCoiPersiciBallaCoiPersici NW Italy (Laveno Mombello)Posts: 6,846 Admiral
    We aspire to be South Korea while acting like Italy.  That's the rub.
    I sincerely hope for you guys that America acts like America can do. Real data analysis and pragmatism.
    Wasting hugely resources and put in cages people for stopping TEMPORARILY the unavoidable virus spread is simply stupid, whatever way they chose. Even much more considering that the spread is already done since December/January.

    BTW in Italy 627 deaths today, they said. 
    What a combination! 
    Government just said that probably the curfew will extended and get worsen and immediately later a tons of deaths to justify the decision and shut-up any critics. Perfect time I would say if I was a a malicious guy.

    Meantime nobody die by cancer, AIDS, old age, diabetes, hearth attack, etc. anymore. Nowadays the only cause of death in Italy is coronavirus.
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    No hope in herd immunity although we don't miss the sheep
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  • spanglerspangler daBurgPosts: 2,738 Captain
    duckmanJR said:
    ...
    Try and remember some of our grandparents went to war...and died...You...are asked to not go to the beach. 

    I think this is worth repeating.  And you know, these younger gens likely have friends and certainly had classmates at war.  Makes me sick how selfish, self absorbed and how unwilling they are to make a sacrifice for the better of the country.  Not just younger but mostly.  The irony is that they push for this hive/socialist future.  But only think about themselves...


    There will never be a really free and enlightened state until the state comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived.
  • ScoutboatScoutboat Posts: 2,534 Captain
    Almost everyone believes the media blows this and everything out of proportion.

    But what I really want to know is who the top, top, top doctor professional that thinks it will start "falling off by a week from tomorrow"?

    The population of Florida is about 22,000,000.
    There have been less than 500 confirmed cases of the cover virus.
  • ScoutboatScoutboat Posts: 2,534 Captain
    Because most, if not all viruses peak and then diminish.
    We've gone through swine flu, bird flu, Hong Kong flu and how many others.  ???
  • razertoorazertoo UKPosts: 18 Deckhand
    Almost everyone believes the media blows this and everything out of proportion.

    But what I really want to know is who the top, top, top doctor professional that thinks it will start "falling off by a week from tomorrow"?
    Whoever he is, he's an idiot.
  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 17,250 AG
    We aspire to be South Korea while acting like Italy.  That's the rub.
    I sincerely hope for you guys that America acts like America can do. Real data analysis and pragmatism.
    Wasting hugely resources and put in cages people for stopping TEMPORARILY the unavoidable virus spread is simply stupid, whatever way they chose. Even much more considering that the spread is already done since December/January.

    BTW in Italy 627 deaths today, they said. 
    What a combination! 
    Government just said that probably the curfew will extended and get worsen and immediately later a tons of deaths to justify the decision and shut-up any critics. Perfect time I would say if I was a a malicious guy.

    Meantime nobody die by cancer, AIDS, old age, diabetes, hearth attack, etc. anymore. Nowadays the only cause of death in Italy is coronavirus.
    Would it be pragmatic to do those things that have actually resulted in fewer cases?   You know, the same things that Italy (and we) have started to do too late?

    And please stop being ridiculous about your "all deaths being blamed on coronavirus" -- you lose credibility when you make such silly assertions.

    I hope you and yours are all well.  Be safe, brother.
  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 17,250 AG
    edited March 2020 #47
    razertoo said:
    Almost everyone believes the media blows this and everything out of proportion.

    But what I really want to know is who the top, top, top doctor professional that thinks it will start "falling off by a week from tomorrow"?
    Whoever he is, he's an idiot.
    "He" is a fictional person, which is why I asked the question in the first place.

    I like AC, I really do, but he tends to exaggerate.
  • BallaCoiPersiciBallaCoiPersici NW Italy (Laveno Mombello)Posts: 6,846 Admiral
    edited March 2020 #48
    We aspire to be South Korea while acting like Italy.  That's the rub.
    I sincerely hope for you guys that America acts like America can do. Real data analysis and pragmatism.
    Wasting hugely resources and put in cages people for stopping TEMPORARILY the unavoidable virus spread is simply stupid, whatever way they chose. Even much more considering that the spread is already done since December/January.

    BTW in Italy 627 deaths today, they said. 
    What a combination! 
    Government just said that probably the curfew will extended and get worsen and immediately later a tons of deaths to justify the decision and shut-up any critics. Perfect time I would say if I was a a malicious guy.

    Meantime nobody die by cancer, AIDS, old age, diabetes, hearth attack, etc. anymore. Nowadays the only cause of death in Italy is coronavirus.
    Would it be pragmatic to do those things that have actually resulted in fewer cases?   You know, the same things that Italy (and we) have started to do too late?

    And please stop being ridiculous about your "all deaths being blamed on coronavirus" -- you lose credibility when you make such silly assertions.

    I hope you and yours are all well.  Be safe, brother.
    Thanks, I hope you too.

    I already said. Herd immunity. Nature is smarter than our leaderships.

    Anyway:
    curfew get worst, officially confirmed 1 hour ago.
    It also confirmed (if not a fake news) that all deaths in certain areas (they defined “red zones”) are considered due coronavirus since not possible exclude it. They said that 9 on 10 (87%) die at their home and in any case not in ICU, before any possible sure diagnoses. Like people usually die, especially elderly. 
    So let me say, it wasn’t so much silly what I said. Only the sad truth.

    L'87% delle vittime lombarde da coronavirus non giunge neanche alle terapie intensive degli ospedali perché muore prima, a casa o senza neanche essere ricoverato

    https://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/cronaca/coronavirus-in-lombardia-9-morti-su-10-mai-giunti-in-terapia-intensiva_16362350-202002a.shtml
    In Italian of course but I already translate the focal point.

    Then:
    Only 0,8% of the deceased where without any know severe pathology. All the remaining deaths: 25% at least one severe pathology, 25% two, 48% three. Only 10% under 60 YO.
    It looks like something that it happens since mankind exist.

    "Solo lo 0,8% delle vittime non aveva altre patologie - dice ancora Bernabei - mentre  il 25% ne aveva una, un altro 25% due e il 48% tre. E solo il 10% aveva meno di 60 anni.

    https://www.ansa.it/canale_saluteebenessere/notizie/sanita/2020/03/19/coronavirus-italia-bergamo-ospedale-cremona-medici-crisi-ue_f8d1c1f0-b1b2-4b29-b6ee-0fad46953541.html
    Massimo (former Ballak) - Please, be patient for my English
    ********************************************************************************************************************************
    I'm typing keeping close my "pasta hole"!
    Political correctness is a mental disease that can put you in slavery. The only cure is to turn on the brain.
    No hope in herd immunity although we don't miss the sheep
    Vulgus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur
  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 17,250 AG
    edited March 2020 #49
    Balla, That data doesn't seem to suggest what you're saying it does.  It just seems to say what we have already deduced -- that those with other underlying health problems are succumbing to COVID-19.

    Maybe something lost in the translation?
  • FloridaODFloridaOD Posts: 4,208 Captain
    Hope kayak launches stay open
    Great observation.
    Hunters are present yet relatively uncommon in Florida :wink
  • swampdogswampdog Central FloridaPosts: 2,740 Captain
    We all need to consider:
    1) If this is over reaction, then soon we can return to normal.
    2) If this is as serious as it appears, then being proactive is the best thing we as a country can do. 

    I have faith and pride, that our government and private labs will come up with a vaccine soon. Until then, we’re definitely slowing our lives and staying home for the most part. Store if needed. Taking it day by day.
  • stc1993stc1993 Albany, GA Carrabelle, FLPosts: 8,748 Admiral
    We went from 2 to 83 known cases in around a week with 7 dead.  Don't come to Albany GA
  • dave44dave44 Posts: 14,402 AG
    We found out we had a serious breech in our defensive hoarding tonight. 
      15 pounds of sugar, 1000 rolls of tp, 3 cans of soup and 2 steaks. And all of a sudden, we found we are out of dishwashing soap?! Noooo!
  • ferris1248ferris1248 Posts: 14,473 Moderator
    stc1993 said:
    We went from 2 to 83 known cases in around a week with 7 dead.  Don't come to Albany GA

    Albany appears to be hit hard.

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."

    Rabbi Hillel (c20 BCE)

  • captbonefishcaptbonefish UmatilaPosts: 902 Officer
    We don't have coronabeer here. Just sayin.
  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 10,455 AG
    bicyclist said:
    Not sure the US will outdo south korea with this crisis. Our leadership is about as stupid as it gets. Not even bag boy material.
    Well if he's bag boy material what does that make you?
    I have never seen live bones, but I know that they are often used by rich people to decorate the interior.
  • mplspugmplspug Palmetto FloridaPosts: 14,539 AG
    edited March 2020 #58
    Cart ****
    Just dropping grenades in OT
  • ScoutboatScoutboat Posts: 2,534 Captain
    Balla, That data doesn't seem to suggest what you're saying it does.  It just seems to say what we have already deduced -- that those with other underlying health problems are succumbing to COVID-19.

    Maybe something lost in the translation?
    The population of Florida is about 20,000,000.
    There have been about 2,000 reported cases.
    That equates to about one in about 100,000 and most of that number recover.
    Get a grip!.
  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 17,250 AG
    edited March 2020 #60
    I have a grip, Scoutboat.

    Do you know what exponential growth means?

    That means the 2,000 becomes 4k in a few days then 8k, 16k, 32k, 64k, 128k, 256k, 512k, 1m, 2m, 4m, 8m, 16m, then the whole state in about a month.

    That also means that if 1% of them die that means 200k deaths.

    Which is why those who have a grip -- better than either of us -- are sounding the alarm and taking preventative measures.

    Ignore them at your own peril.
  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 37,005 AG

    Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

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