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J hooks for Yellowtail snapper?

I expected that circle hooks would have been required for Yellowtail snapper-  so when the guide/captian pulled out the J hooks I asked about it and was told J hooks OK -  is that correct?

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  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 10,738 AG
    Depends if you are in the Gulf or Atlantic and where in particular in the Atlantic.

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • Jack HexterJack Hexter New Port RicheyPosts: 5,337 Moderator
    When the circle hook controversy started many years ago, the guides and commercial fishermen got together and explained how circles would not work for YT's because of the way they eat. (Don't ask me to explain it) and they got an exemption on the circles for YT's
  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 10,738 AG
    edited February 2019 #4
    Jack, I thought that NOAA exemption was for commercial harvesting only and that would only apply fishing below Cape Sable. Guides would be considered recreational I believe.

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • Jack HexterJack Hexter New Port RicheyPosts: 5,337 Moderator
    edited February 2019 #5
    Got me,?  I just recall an exemption, and thought it was for all YT

  • dragon baitdragon bait Posts: 10,073 AG
    I love circles for YT
    #justsaying
  • CaptJCaptJ Posts: 1,434 Officer
    Circles work just fine for YT
  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 10,738 AG
    CaptJ said:
    Circles work just fine for YT

    Agree, I think it is the unhooking part where speed is a issue for the commercials. Harder to use the wire on the killbox.

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • xeniaxenia Posts: 1,025 Officer
    Exactly as Conchydong says.  You need J hooks for speed in dehooking.  Commercial guys don't touch the YT with their hands at all.
  • Circle-HookCircle-Hook Posts: 503 Officer

    Now how could anybody get confused about regulations-

    Gulf vs Atlantic, below Cape sable, guides-  commercial vs rec....   

    exemption for commercial - by all means let the commercial slaughter them and tie the hands of the rec fisherman. 

    and of course the commercial will not hook any other reef fish with their J hooks

    seen clear to me... BS as usual


  • xeniaxenia Posts: 1,025 Officer
    edited February 2019 #11
    You obviously have no freakin clue what you're talking about.  Rec fishermen can use J-hooks on the Atlantic side just like commercials.  Have you ever fished on a commercial yellowtail boat?  Here's almost 1,000 lbs of yellowtail in one day, all legal sized, and not a single other reef fish taken except for a mangrove snapper which was also legal.  This catch is possible because of J-hooks, and a few other tricks which I will not divulge here.  There are much worse things commercial fishermen around the world are doing than using J-hooks.  Please pick the right battles. Don't go to seafood restaurants then, since all their fish are taken by commercial fishermen.

  • xeniaxenia Posts: 1,025 Officer

    South of Sebastian you're OK using J-hooks, rec or commercial.
  • xeniaxenia Posts: 1,025 Officer
    See, rec and commercial treated the same: (from South Atlantic Council)

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