Sure do, why this new trend of shutting down hunting, closing doe hunting? Doesnt that raise any eye brows with anyone else. I mean if we had facts to go off of, we can hold a much better discussion. But when I hear 3lakes is down in numbers who quantified that before they closed doe?
Did the surrounding land owners get doe permits? More or Less?
Are the deer more towards the river like they usually are when its dry.... because when its really wet, the surrounding deer move towards higher ground.
I hunted 3 lakes many times, know it and the river very well. Nothing is wrong in 3 lakes, the deer are very patterned follow the vein strands towards the swamps youll see plenty of deer this time of yr and under these dry conditions.
Three lakes deer have always been very nocturnal and move mid day better than early morning... but if we do indeed have a problem there, what are they doing to fix it? How did it come about?
3 lakes is one of the better staffed WMAs. They conduct wildlife surveys. Ask them for the results that show a decline in numbers. I havent seen them but I do doubt the decision was a knee jerk one. Especially given Morgan's response to the question of why the change in antlerless opportunities was implemented there. People who disagree with reducing the antlerless harvest when the numbers indicate the previous harvest rate is resulting in a declining population aren't doing themselves or anyone else any favors. They're usially the same ones demanding that the FWC should manage the resource and not the hunter. I guess the answer in their mind is to not manage the resource or the resource user.
During archery there. The hunter numbers were way down. Cause no one wanted to come. Due to no doe. But bull creek was jamming. Was nice to have the whole park to ourselves. But during powder. The usual numbers were there
Agree on both points. Hunter migration from WMAs with less opportunity to nearby ones with more could result in higher antlerless harvest rates than what the population can sustain year in and year out. Not sure if it did or not but the potential exists under current management guidelines.
Is Confucius that guy who always says you can't fix what's not broken while complaining that nothing is ever done right? If so, that might explain the helicopters.
Gritsnhuntin posted the letter response from FWC. Those Hunting Three Lakes complained and received a response to a possible decline in the deer population.
I guess those who hunt 3 lakes know how to send coherent e-mails and talk on the phone in ways that FWC appreciates and acts on.....hmmmmm
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3lakes has been going downhill since 2003 . The biologist is or was Stephen Glass . Once he took over everything went to crap . Cutting of Oak hammocks , cabbage palm heads , myrtles on 60 side . Constant crunching and burning palmettos . Has made 3lakes look like a golf course . Its sad what it is now . I started hunting there in the 90s . It was loaded with game . Their plan is to restore it to what it was back in the 50s . A big prairie with no game . Really sad . Emails were sent to FWC and even to our Governor . The cutting stopped for a year and then they came back in full force .
during turkey season FWC has guys in atv driving around spraying for invasive plants . Come on man cant they wait a few weeks to do that . Nope lets screw peoples hunt up . Gotta love their restoration projects .
. The biologist is or was Stephen Glass . Once he took over everything went to crap . . Really sad . Emails were sent to FWC and even to our Governor .
He still is....and good luck......that guy must know where the bodies of the dead underage hookers are buried from someone very high up.....they have even tried to oust him from the INSIDE with no luck....in this case I agree BOHICA LOL
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Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
The 3 spray buggies were still there this weekend for gun quota. As was 100 atv's driving where ever the hell they felt like going.. Nevermind the "no motor vehicles beyond this sign", well just knock it down and proceed. Been going there for 10 years and just gets worse every year with the atv's. Sad, the place used to nice.... #65 & 66 in at 5:30... 10 point and 6 point & 1 hog taken Saturday.
He got it after walking away from his ground blind, he was out there with his 5 year old son and the boy was restless. Once he got back to the truck he looked back down the firebreak to his blind and saw a deer. He grabbed his rifle again and started stalking back down the road about 25 yds when it stepped back out and he saw it was a buck. Said he was shaking so bad he went prone to take the shot. Hit it dead center of the chest/neck as it was facing straight at him, hitting the heart and 1 lung.
We went back out for the evening sit and close to last light started to drive out. A deer came out into the road and stopped about 250Yds from where we were. I hopped out and saw it was a legal buck but rushed and missed the shot. Don't know how big it was other than a big wide rack. Really wanted that shot back since I rushed, thinking how long would a big buck sit in the road looking at me. But in hindsight it didn't seem to care. Even after the shot it didn't go full out just jump and run.
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I mean if we had facts to go off of, we can hold a much better discussion. But when I hear 3lakes is down in numbers who quantified that before they closed doe?
Did the surrounding land owners get doe permits? More or Less?
Are the deer more towards the river like they usually are when its dry.... because when its really wet, the surrounding deer move towards higher ground.
I hunted 3 lakes many times, know it and the river very well. Nothing is wrong in 3 lakes, the deer are very patterned follow the vein strands towards the swamps youll see plenty of deer this time of yr and under these dry conditions.
Three lakes deer have always been very nocturnal and move mid day better than early morning... but if we do indeed have a problem there, what are they doing to fix it? How did it come about?
Maybe we should call it the BOHICA plan!
You're gonna have to keep looking.
The hunter numbers were way down. Cause no one wanted to come. Due to no doe.
But bull creek was jamming.
Was nice to have the whole park to ourselves. But during powder. The usual numbers were there
Many things to do.
Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
Full moons make me crazy and I go out and kill deer . Come to think all moon phases do that to me
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He still is....and good luck......that guy must know where the bodies of the dead underage hookers are buried from someone very high up.....they have even tried to oust him from the INSIDE with no luck....in this case I agree BOHICA LOL
Many things to do.
Knots to be unraveled
'fore the darkness falls on you
As was 100 atv's driving where ever the hell they felt like going.. Nevermind the "no motor vehicles beyond this sign", well just knock it down and proceed. Been going there for 10 years and just gets worse every year with the atv's.
Sad, the place used to nice....
#65 & 66 in at 5:30... 10 point and 6 point & 1 hog taken Saturday.
He got it after walking away from his ground blind, he was out there with his 5 year old son and the boy was restless. Once he got back to the truck he looked back down the firebreak to his blind and saw a deer. He grabbed his rifle again and started stalking back down the road about 25 yds when it stepped back out and he saw it was a buck. Said he was shaking so bad he went prone to take the shot. Hit it dead center of the chest/neck as it was facing straight at him, hitting the heart and 1 lung.