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I had a 189 and went to a 2011 and love it. The bow rides a little higher on the 2011 when slow trolling or sitting but it's still a pretty low sided boat. I take mine 10 to 15 miles out in the gulf off the Everglades, but not as much as Pete (he's the master out there from what I have been told). I definitely pick my days to go out there. It doesn't have to be flat calm but it needs to be reasonable. Last year we were on a hot Permit bite on a wreck and didn't notice the huge storms building back towards the mainland. It got pretty sporty on our ride back in and I took plenty of water in the face and could only run about 17 MPH. It never felt dangerous, but there was no getting it up on top of the waves at 40 like you normally can with that boat.
I think I would look at the Moccasin too for what you are describing. Even higher sides and you are standing up or on a lean post running which helps in big water. I've started putting a little Yeti Roadie with a cushion on top of my seat cushion in the 2011 when I run and it acts like a leaning post and it never moves with the back rest back there. It's especially nice running at night or rougher water from a higher vantage point like that.
I think the Moccasin 210 is better suited to offshore than the 2011 and I use mine quite a bit offshore but it is never ideal for it. You just have to find that balance you're happy with.While I routinely get my boat very shallow, the truth is most of the fish I catch are in 3-5ft of water not 1-2ft. Maybe if I had a 16' skiff that may change a bit but if I was serious about more offshore I would be looking at something bigger like a bay/cc hybrid. I'm partial to the Jupiter 25 Bay or Barker open layout as opposed to a 25ft flats boat layout for offshore. Of course, I can't afford a quality built 25' boat like that so I'm sticking with my Moccasin for the time being.Someone convince Frank to build a sub-$100K 24-25ft bay boat.
Saltwater Junkie said:Someone convince Frank to build a sub-$100K 24-25ft bay boat.
Many years ago this was discussed and after I gave Frank a wish list on what I felt my dream boat should have. He also told me what he felt it should have. If you combine those ideas and built that boat. There's no way that boat would be under 100K. To give you an idea, the Florida built 189's have 29 different molds and is a complex boat to build. The current 189 and 2011 are just as complex and likely have similar number of molded parts. A bigger boat would require more materials, a larger outboard and bigger trailer and more labor hours. But....It would be like all Egrets, Awesome!
Someone convince Frank to build a sub-$100K 24-25ft bay boat.
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