Prop selection

Vinny lVinny l Posts: 282 Deckhand
Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone would share what prop they’re using on their Moccasin210/200 zuki.

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  • FlatsBoyFlatsBoy Posts: 1,299 Officer
    edited March 12 #2
    The best prop with the motor mounted all the way down is the Fury 3 blade with the large PVS ports installed or the  27 pitch Fury 4 blade in 26 pitch with 6 of the eight ports closed with solid plugs and leave two open opposite of each other.
    These props have been tested and proven. The Rev 4 25 pitch is ok but not enough prop and has too much stern lift. The biggest key to getting the most out of the hull and motor speed and efficiency along with handling which is the biggest is lowering the motor. If I had to choose which one to buy I would go with the 4 blade for inshore and offshore.

    https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/propellers/comp-series/fury/

    https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/propellers/comp-series/furyr-4/

    Cheapest place to buy props period!

    http://jacosmarine.com/new-mercury-propellers/
  • TXWahooTXWahoo Posts: 439 Deckhand
    Phil, what is the max rpm your motor will turn these props?  My prop is a 3-blade 14.75 x 23p and my max is 6100 rpm.  Can this hull / Zuke 200 actually turn a 26-27 pitch prop to 6000 rpm?
  • captraycaptray Posts: 50 Greenhorn
    Yes. Phil and I both hit the rev limiter with the 4-blade 25”. His research and analysis above are spot on. It’ll spin that 27” Fury at or over 6k RPM all day.
  • Vinny lVinny l Posts: 282 Deckhand
    FlatsBoy said:
    The best prop with the motor mounted all the way down is the Fury 3 blade with the large PVS ports installed or the  27 pitch Fury 4 blade in 26 pitch with the first four holes open and  solid ports in the second set of ports.
    These props have been tested and proven. The Rev 4 25 pitch is ok but not enough prop and has too much stern lift. The biggest key to getting the most out of the hull and motor speed and efficiency along with handling which is the biggest is lowering the motor. If I had to choose which one to buy I would go with the 4 blade for inshore and offshore.

    https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/propellers/comp-series/fury/

    https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/propellers/comp-series/furyr-4/

    Cheapest place to buy props period!

    http://jacosmarine.com/new-mercury-propellers/

    Thank you phil.
  • FlatsBoyFlatsBoy Posts: 1,299 Officer
    Updated Post
    Port configuration on the Fury 4 blade should be 6 closed with solid PVS plugs and two open opposite one and other.
  • Vinny lVinny l Posts: 282 Deckhand
    edited March 12 #7
    forward or aft? Never mind, just looked at the picture.. Thanks again
  • FlatsBoyFlatsBoy Posts: 1,299 Officer
    edited March 12 #8
    The ones closest to to the blade edge is the ones you want open on the Fury 4 blade. 
    So the first two holes are as follows: open & closed then closed closed then open closed then closed closed. There are eight total holes. You can buy extra PVS ports from Jacos Marine in solid small medium and large. They are cheap.
  • Vinny lVinny l Posts: 282 Deckhand
    Thanks Phil..I'm dropping my motor down to the last hole as you suggest then change the prop.. The Enertia from Merc is a big seller up here but I'll go with the 4 blade fury in 26 pitch as per your suggestion.
  • FlatsBoyFlatsBoy Posts: 1,299 Officer
    edited March 12 #10
    B)

  • TXWahooTXWahoo Posts: 439 Deckhand
    edited March 13 #11
    How do Fury 3, Fury 4, and Rev 4 compare in shallow water... such as staying on plane at low speed, hole shot, etc?

    I know there is .75" between each mounting hole and I believe Frank said this is a 20" motor on a 23" transom.  I'm not at my boat to go and look so can you tell me where the cavitation / anti-ventilation plate is in regards to the bottom of the hull?

    Since you dropped the motor to the lowest hole, do you just trim up more when running shallow flats?  Have you noticed you need more water to get on plane?

  • Vinny lVinny l Posts: 282 Deckhand
    edited March 13 #12
    TXWahoo said:
    How do Fury 3, Fury 4, and Rev 4 compare in shallow water... such as staying on plane at low speed, hole shot, etc?

    I know there is .75" between each mounting hole and I believe Frank said this is a 20" motor on a 23" transom.  I'm not at my boat to look right now to go and look so can you tell me where the cavitation / anti-ventilation plate is in regards to the bottom of the hull?

    Since you dropped the motor to the lowest hole, do you just trim up more when running shallow flats?  Have you noticed you need more water to get on plane?

    Good questions.
  • FlatsBoyFlatsBoy Posts: 1,299 Officer
    TXWahoo said:
    How do Fury 3, Fury 4, and Rev 4 compare in shallow water... such as staying on plane at low speed, hole shot, etc?

    I know there is .75" between each mounting hole and I believe Frank said this is a 20" motor on a 23" transom.  I'm not at my boat to go and look so can you tell me where the cavitation / anti-ventilation plate is in regards to the bottom of the hull?

    Since you dropped the motor to the lowest hole, do you just trim up more when running shallow flats?  Have you noticed you need more water to get on plane?

    Do yourself a favor and drop the motor all the way down. The boat runs so much better and the props I mentioned run better and faster than the Rev 4. The hull still gets up in shallow enough water even after lowering the motor. Don't worry where your cavitation plate is. Three owners are running this the same way including myself with the same motor combo and all run shallow enough to make you pucker!
    Yes you can trim the motor up way more while running so your running draft is less. It also carry's the boat better in rough water and offshore conditions.
  • Vinny lVinny l Posts: 282 Deckhand
    FlatsBoy said:
    TXWahoo said:
    How do Fury 3, Fury 4, and Rev 4 compare in shallow water... such as staying on plane at low speed, hole shot, etc?

    I know there is .75" between each mounting hole and I believe Frank said this is a 20" motor on a 23" transom.  I'm not at my boat to go and look so can you tell me where the cavitation / anti-ventilation plate is in regards to the bottom of the hull?

    Since you dropped the motor to the lowest hole, do you just trim up more when running shallow flats?  Have you noticed you need more water to get on plane?

    Do yourself a favor and drop the motor all the way down. The boat runs so much better and the props I mentioned run better and faster than the Rev 4. The hull still gets up in shallow enough water even after lowering the motor. Don't worry where your cavitation plate is. Three owners are running this the same way including myself with the same motor combo and all run shallow enough to make you pucker!
    Yes you can trim the motor up way more while running so your running draft is less. It also carry's the boat better in rough water and offshore conditions.
    Excellent answer!!!👍👍
  • TXWahooTXWahoo Posts: 439 Deckhand
    Ok Phil, I did it.  Just need to service the motor, install the Fury 4,  and take her out.


  • rob2011rob2011 floridaPosts: 1 Greenhorn
    what is your suggestion for a 2011 with a 250 sho?
  • FlatsBoyFlatsBoy Posts: 1,299 Officer
    rob2011 said:
    what is your suggestion for a 2011 with a 250 sho?
    The best tested and proven prop for the Yamaha SHO with is a Mercury Racing Bravo FS 24 pitch.
    Don't waste your money on anything else. Also the prop once worn down some losses performance also.

    http://www.mercuryracing.com/boat-propellers/outboard/bravo-i-fs/

    Cheapest you'll find. If you don't have a Mercury hub kit for a Yamaha you'll also need to purchase that also.
    http://jacosmarine.com/new-mercury-propellers/
  • Bad behaviorBad behavior Posts: 1,155 Officer
    FlatsBoy said:
    rob2011 said:
    what is your suggestion for a 2011 with a 250 sho?
    The best tested and proven prop for the Yamaha SHO with is a Mercury Racing Bravo FS 24 pitch.
    Don't waste your money on anything else. Also the prop once worn down some losses performance also.

    http://www.mercuryracing.com/boat-propellers/outboard/bravo-i-fs/

    Cheapest you'll find. If you don't have a Mercury hub kit for a Yamaha you'll also need to purchase that also.
    http://jacosmarine.com/new-mercury-propellers/
    This  is what I just ordered from memory from our conversations!!
    Need a little time off...For Bad Behavior....

    2014 Egret 2011 /Yamaha 250 SHO
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