OAKS

saltyseniorsaltysenior Posts: 767 Officer
Has anyone found out the reason certain state agencies were killing oak trees on public land a few years ago ??:huh

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  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 5,351 Admiral
    Because Wildfires have been suppressed for years and oaks have grown where they should not be in a proper ecosystem...
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • bswivbswiv Posts: 6,913 Admiral
    Because Wildfires have been suppressed for years and oaks have grown where they should not be in a proper ecosystem...

    This here.

    Fact is that open pine stands with just the occasional oak mixed in and then more numerous oaks along the creeks and in the low places is better for wildlife overall. That sort of environment produces food year round as the great variety of grasses and forbs means that something is ready to eat year round.

    We manage our own land and part of that is knocking back the oaks, gums, maples and the like in the pine stands with fire and then some individual treatment. After a burn the animals hit that area as it greens up harder than a area that has not been burned.

    Oaks are useful up to a point but only provide food for a very limited window of time so when they get to numerous, when they block out the light to the ground and hinder the plants that provide food the other 11 months of the year they need to be attended to.
  • N. CookN. Cook Posts: 1,957 Captain
    There is this little 'endangered " meadow sparrow..... a bird that thrives in "open prairie"....that has caused the removal of 100 year old oak hammocks on WMAs the last several years....Not so sure the mixed habitat the oaks gave is such a bad thing....although fire was (and is) a positive for the eco systems in FL....some controversy over the removal of oak hammocks....mostly because a 50 acre oak hammock (said to be "too large") is surrounded by 1000 acres of pine flat woods and prairie habitat. My experience in FL is that the oak hammocks offer a lot of amenities to a large number of species...food and shelter, etc. Just as cypress heads do.
  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 22,741 AG
    N. Cook wrote: »
    There is this little 'endangered " meadow sparrow..... a bird that thrives in "open prairie"....that has caused the removal of 100 year old oak hammocks on WMAs the last several years....Not so sure the mixed habitat the oaks gave is such a bad thing....although fire was (and is) a positive for the eco systems in FL....some controversy over the removal of oak hammocks....mostly because a 50 acre oak hammock (said to be "too large") is surrounded by 1000 acres of pine flat woods and prairie habitat. My experience in FL is that the oak hammocks offer a lot of amenities to a large number of species...food and shelter, etc. Just as cypress heads do.

    On a very few very select WMAs, like 3 lakes. Historical palmetto prairie, one of the worlds unique and very rare ecosystems.

    Oak infestations have killed many a good habitat in Florida...
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  • micci_manmicci_man Somewhere in FLPosts: 12,264 AG
    They are killing the oaks on some GA WMA's as well.
    Common Sense can't be bought, taught or gifted, yet it is one of the few things in life that is free, and most refuse to even attempt to possess it. - Miguel Cervantes
  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 5,351 Admiral
    Ya Pete , but they make a Fine place to stretch out the hammock at noon.
    I see no reason to destroy some nice hammocks.
    You really want to make it nice..tear out 70 % of the pines and plant some 75 to 100 ft. longleafs with Titi bottoms.
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • binellishtrbinellishtr Posts: 7,662 Admiral
    we have bigger exotic problems in Fl to worry about IMO
  • bswivbswiv Posts: 6,913 Admiral
    we have bigger exotic problems in Fl to worry about IMO

    Yankees?
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