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  • H20dadH20dad Posts: 2,507 Captain
    So how do they make it 17 feet deep? The ground water level won't allow you to dig down and lake okeechobee isn't 17 feet deep with the huge dike around it.
  • Pucker FactorPucker Factor Posts: 875 Officer
    Not sure how you call that a summary. I came in here looking to read a summary as opposed to some wild banter and claims that do not make any sense, starting with this:

    By Perry’s estimates, completion of the proposed reservoir would reduce discharges from Lake O to both coasts by “perhaps 40 to 50 percent.”

    240,000 acre feet reduces 50% of the discharges to both coasts? Wow. Shocking. When it rains to the north of the lake and on the lake, it WILL rain on this reservoir. If anyone thinks that this 50% is correct (and I hope you don't) realize there will not be that capacity to move the water into the reservoir when the rains are like we had that one anomaly of a rainy dry season. At the peak rain events/seasons the USACE/USFWS holds back 204,000 acre feet of water north of Everglades National Park, the south end of the system.

    And then this, that agriculture dictates the releases, really??? There is an extensive plan developed by multiple government agencies.

    Perry says, “the sugar growers have always had perfect conditions for growing their crops because the water is controlled and used for irrigation and perfect drainage."

    I just can't believe what I read these days. Unbelievable. A bill that had not one but two strike alls as parts of the process should be a sign to ALL that there are significant issues when legislators get that involved in restoration.

    There is NO federal partner, none, not one.

    This bill will only serve to continue to delay the process. It is the NGO that has been pushing this reservoir that sued to stop the A1 reservoir. These reservoirs have always been part of the process.

    H2Odad . . . on target sir not to mention that water has to be treated. Its 240,000 acres completely dry while spending all of the funding, state funding only.

    Better time spent would be reviewing and discussing Nelsons Bill which I have not reviewed yet.
  • H20dadH20dad Posts: 2,507 Captain
    Everybody in the know, knows that this was just another attempt by big sugar to sell their land for 20x what it is worth. Shame on them and the people who will sell the environment down the tubes for a buck. All the while lake okeechobee and the coastal estuaries continue to die from nutrients flushed south from Orlando and Disney.
  • Flatwater witchFlatwater witch Posts: 606 Officer
    Terrible Report.

    Move forward w/ CERP and CEPP.
    Baby steps toward success.
  • Flatwater witchFlatwater witch Posts: 606 Officer
    When it rains to the north of the lake and on the lake, it WILL rain on this reservoir.

    Yep...........16.55 inches EAA 3. In 7 days.

    http://my.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal/xweb%20weather/rainfall%20historical%20%28monthly%29
  • Flatwater witchFlatwater witch Posts: 606 Officer
    Edit function not working ??
  • H20dadH20dad Posts: 2,507 Captain
    We got over 24" at my house probably closer to 30" since Saturday night.
  • Ron@.38 Special[email protected] Special Posts: 6,921 Admiral
    A few facts
    1. digging into ground water table does not provide any storage.
    2. 17 feet will require at least 5 feet higher levees, but maybe more depending on the interior leves use to control sloshing and wave overtopping of the levees.
    3. Thousands of acres of treatment cells will be required
    4. millions of cubic yards of canal and flow-way excavation required.

    My prediction, Ill probably be dead before its operational and I don't plan on dying any time soon.

    These things take a couple years design, and multiple phases of construction for about 6-10 years.

    Oh and Billions of dollars!

    Long long way to go and all we decided so far is to use land we already bought for the EAA reservoir.
  • H20dadH20dad Posts: 2,507 Captain
    A few facts
    1. digging into ground water table does not provide any storage.
    2. 17 feet will require at least 5 feet higher levees, but maybe more depending on the interior leves use to control sloshing and wave overtopping of the levees.
    3. Thousands of acres of treatment cells will be required
    4. millions of cubic yards of canal and flow-way excavation required.

    My prediction, Ill probably be dead before its operational and I don't plan on dying any time soon.

    These things take a couple years design, and multiple phases of construction for about 6-10 years.

    Oh and Billions of dollars!

    Long long way to go and all we decided so far is to use land we already bought for the EAA reservoir.

    All this for the temple of the mouse. Makes me want to puke.
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