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• duckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG

  July 2016 #2

  Yes... It is very similar to what happens in lakes up north called "turn over"... Cold bottom water is driven inshore....It usually happens right around mini season most years.
  
  This is when a roffers chart helps out...

  There are many roads to travel
  Many things to do.
  Knots to be unraveled
  'fore the darkness falls on you

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• gatorhook Posts: 664 Officer

  July 2016 #3

  It shuts the bottom bite down by stunning/shock. But also pushes deeper fish inshore searching for warmth. Shark will be in full force. It makes spearfishing incredibly easy if you can stand the cold 50 degree water.

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• Saltydog83 Posts: 94 Greenhorn

  August 2016 #4

  It is starting to happen right now. 6 miles off the beach it was 77degrees......10 miles was 84 degrees.

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• gandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG

  August 2016 #5

  Time to fish the steeples when that happens. Longer ride troll around over them, they are easy to spot even on a bottom machine.
  Did you get a hot spots map yet?

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• gandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG

  August 2016 #6

  You will be fishing 260' +
  AJ's normally hang around the top, got to drop fast to get the bait past them.

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• duckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG

  August 2016 #7

  It is starting here out of Sebastian....As I broke the inlet this morning you could actually FEEL it...a slight coolness in the air...put my hand in the water and it was definitely colder than a few days ago.

  There are many roads to travel
  Many things to do.
  Knots to be unraveled
  'fore the darkness falls on you

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• squidvicious Posts: 537 Officer

  August 2016 #8

  gandrfab wrote: »

  Time to fish the steeples when that happens. Longer ride troll around over them, they are easy to spot even on a bottom machine.
  Did you get a hot spots map yet?

  
  
  
  fished that area a few times - high speed trolling
  
  bottom fishing too
  
  
  just asking if the bottom fishing in that area is shut down
  
  
  it's my understanding,the water temp on the bottom,in deep water,remains a constant temp year round

  can we please stop using the word ISSUE ? it's a PROBLEM
  :wink

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• gandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG

  August 2016 #9

  When the cold water comes in it turns off the shallow water bite.

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• Flec Posts: 735 Officer

  August 2016 #10

  Cold water on the beach does not occur every year. If we have a lot of west,southwest winds, then it is more likely to drop the water temp because that wind blows the warmer surface water offshore and it is replaced by cooler water from below. July was VERY dry and we had more east/southeast wind (seabreeze) than normal and that kept warmer water inshore. If we can get through most of August then we may not have it happen this year because it rarely happens after Sept gets here. Cold beach water is usually very dirty too.

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• duckmanJR Posts: 21,265 AG

  August 2016 #11

  Too late...73 in the inlet today

  There are many roads to travel
  Many things to do.
  Knots to be unraveled
  'fore the darkness falls on you

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• Flec Posts: 735 Officer

  August 2016 #12

  I was at Wabasso beach Mon eve,,water felt normal at around 82 degrees. Just looked at the Ft Pierce inshore buoy and it says 81.

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• gatorhook Posts: 664 Officer

  August 2016 #13

  The bottom is not where the buoys are. Topwater stays warm. It's shuts the bottom down, fish get stunned and sometimes die if it gets cold enough. With that burst of dry air that just came from the North Atlantic it's gonna get cooler.

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• saltybum Posts: 1,700 Captain

  August 2016 #14

  And this is when commercial divers with their power heads will slaughter the grouper to the tune 40-50 head per trip if they can.
  No bag limits, they can do this till the water warms or they have killed every last grouper is sight.
  Ever wonder why it's so hard to catch a gag or just your ONE these days?

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• Flec Posts: 735 Officer

  August 2016 #15

  It is not unusual for very cold water to come right in on the beaches. It does not happen but maybe 30% of the mid summer time but I have seen 68 degree water during July/August a few times. And when the seabreeze kicks in by midday, it is like someone turned on the airconditioner along the beach once the wind switches from SW to ESE. The offshore cold water does usually happen every year. I remember diving out of Seb in 80' and 66 degrees and then surfacing into 84 degree water.

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• gandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG

  August 2016 #16

  saltybum wrote: »

  And this is when commercial divers with their power heads will slaughter the grouper to the tune 40-50 head per trip if they can.
  No bag limits, they can do this till the water warms or they have killed every last grouper is sight.
  Ever wonder why it's so hard to catch a gag or just your ONE these days?

  
  Fishing the wrong spot. Move, find ledges and fish them.

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• NSB Photog Posts: 548 Officer

  August 2016 #17

  I remember one summer when the water temp on the beach got down to the upper 50s! Felt like California, with fog and all! It lasted for a couple of weeks before we finally got a tropical system that pushed some wind and swell in. I remember surfing the day the swell moved in and there were pockets of 80 degree water mixed in with the pockets of 60 degree water. Whenever a cold pocket would move in everyone would paddle down the beach as far as they had to until they found another warm pocket. :grin

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• Fletch Posts: 2,580 Moderator

  August 2016 #18

  saltybum wrote: »

  And this is when commercial divers with their power heads will slaughter the grouper to the tune 40-50 head per trip if they can.
  No bag limits, they can do this till the water warms or they have killed every last grouper is sight.
  Ever wonder why it's so hard to catch a gag or just your ONE these days?

  
  Actually, they do have a daily trip limit and there is an annual quota that, once met, stops all commercial harvest for the remainder of the year. It's also not nearly as easy or pleasant as some would have you believe.
  
  Most of the commercial grouper harvest is taken in the Carolinas by the way.

  "Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent, I'll probably waste..."
  -- Tug McGraw on getting a raise
  
  Get Down Fishing Charters - Port Canaveral, Florida

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• saltybum Posts: 1,700 Captain

  August 2016 #19

  Yeah? Had a friend tell me Saturday he was out at the port Fri. and was amazed at all the grouper this one dive boat was unloading at the fish house. gandrfab....when the water is cold those grouper are very cold and lethargic and DO NOT eat. PERIOD, They just lay around waiting to get picked off like a deer in the headlights.
  
  I'm just glad I'm getting old and enjoyed offshore AND inshore fishing when it was good for everyone. The river is dying and everything in it and offshore isn't worth the time or gas for recreational fishing.

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