So - they want to kill the guy who killed the lion!

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  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 8,445 Admiral
    I have a friend who shoots for nat-geo and has been on some shoots in Africa....
    he told me that even with a 400mm lens he felt "uncomfortably close" to large predators....

    I'm thinking "drones" would be an option ... actually I'm content to read the Magazine every month ... as you can probably tell the only large cats I'll photo are in the zoo

    taking shots of lightning is enough adventure for me ...
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  • joekat46joekat46 North PortPosts: 2,259 Captain
    Plus he attempted to take it in an inhumane way.

    Or not - should we now outlaw all archery seasons? The last few post have repeated sanctimonious "bs" worthy of a PETA hand out. Don't like trophy hunting - don't do it. Don't like archery hunting - don't do it. Only want to photograph zoo animals - go for it.
    Zimbabwe appears to have a sustainable lion population that is legally hunted (to the benefit of the Zimbabwe economy). If the evil dentist knowingly broke the law nail him. Whew!
  • JohnnyBanditJohnnyBandit Posts: 8,305 Admiral
    Lion Smion..... If you look around....

    You can find lion... Tacos... Burgers...etc....

    Served in establishments in the United States..
  • joekat46joekat46 North PortPosts: 2,259 Captain
    Lion Smion..... If you look around....

    You can find lion... Tacos... Burgers...etc....

    Served in establishments in the United States..

    Yum! I guess:huh. I did eat a groundhog once when my conscience had one of those "if you shoot it, you eat it moments". I've drawn the line with coyotes and palmetto rats however:rotflmao
  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 8,909 Admiral
    joekat46 wrote: »
    Or not - should we now outlaw all archery seasons? The last few post have repeated sanctimonious "bs" worthy of a PETA hand out. Don't like trophy hunting - don't do it. Don't like archery hunting - don't do it. Only want to photograph zoo animals - go for it.
    Zimbabwe appears to have a sustainable lion population that is legally hunted (to the benefit of the Zimbabwe economy). If the evil dentist knowingly broke the law nail him. Whew!

    I don't consider archery inhumane. It's very sporting, in fact.
    But this dentist didn't have the right skills or tools to take a cat of that size.
    Took 40 hrs to find him again and kill him properly.
    I have never seen live bones, but I know that they are often used by rich people to decorate the interior.
  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,346 AG
    I don't consider archery inhumane. It's very sporting, in fact.
    But this dentist didn't have the right skills or tools to take a cat of that size.
    Took 40 hrs to find him again and kill him properly.

    Even with the GPS collar?
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  • Fish HaidFish Haid Posts: 8,385 Admiral
    This been giving me the hunger for eating some Lion meat, but not after I saw the prices!!!!

    http://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com/lionmeat.html (pricey!)

    http://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com/lipewisetofr.html (Really Pricey!!!)
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  • MRichardsonMRichardson Posts: 8,909 Admiral
    Cyclist wrote: »
    Even with the GPS collar?

    LOL. Good point.
    I have never seen live bones, but I know that they are often used by rich people to decorate the interior.
  • King_MeKing_Me Delray Beach, FLPosts: 5,599 Admiral
    Fish Haid wrote: »
    This been giving me the hunger for eating some Lion meat, but not after I saw the prices!!!!

    http://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com/lionmeat.html (pricey!)

    http://www.exoticmeatmarkets.com/lipewisetofr.html (Really Pricey!!!)


    Love the shirt!
  • pottydocpottydoc The thriving metropolis of Umatilla Posts: 3,418 Captain
    fins4me wrote: »
    1-Probably the people most upset with this are those folks in Africa who depend on the hunting industry.

    2-It is sad and amazing how we as a nation are so easily distracted by something "shiny".

    3-There are lions and other large animals hunted every day all across Africa. It is foolish to make such a big deal out of this event.

    4-Contrary to the narrative being forced down the US news consumers gullet,,, Lions are not endangered.

    I enjoy hunting. I do not consider this style of hunting to be sporting. Baiting a lion or any other animal into the open, shooting it with a less than ideal weapon from the back of a truck and following professional guides across the plains as they do all of the work and track the animal is NOT hunting (my opinion only).

    A bunch of you guys, plus a pile of morons that believe everything they read online, or hear on tv, need to read number 4 above carefully. Read it slowly so you understand it.
    Fins, best post on this thread.
  • http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/04/cecil--lion-beanie-baby-ty-inc/31095541/

    I wonder how many they will sell?

    I also wonder how long it will be till there is a u tube video of someone shooting the beanie baby in the face.:grin
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  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,346 AG
    pottydoc wrote: »
    A bunch of you guys, plus a pile of morons that believe everything they read online, or hear on tv, need to read number 4 above carefully. Read it slowly so you understand it.
    Fins, best post on this thread.

    He is wrong.
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  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,346 AG
    jad1097 wrote: »


    From my previous post on this thread.


    The king of the jungle is in trouble. Populations of African lions (Panthera leo leo) have declined by 42 percent over the past 21 years, according to data released this week by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN).

    The information comes through the latest update to the IUCN Red List, which continues to identify lions as “vulnerable to extinction” (one step short of endangered). That’s mainly because conservation efforts have resulted in an 11 percent growth in lion populations in Botswana, Namibia, South Africa and Zimbabwe. Most of these southern populations live within fenced reserves which have reached their carrying capacity and can’t support additional lion numbers.

    Outside of those four nations, things aren’t as good. Lion populations have fallen in most other countries, with an average decline of 60 percent. The worst hit has been the West African population of lions, which has now been classified as critically endangered. A study published last year found that only about 400 lions remained in the 17 nations of West Africa.
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  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,610 Admiral
    Cyclist wrote: »
    From my previous post on this thread.


    The king of the jungle is in trouble. Populations of African lions (Panthera leo leo) have declined by 42 percent over the past 21 years, according to data released this week by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN).

    The information comes through the latest update to the IUCN Red List, which continues to identify lions as “vulnerable to extinction” (one step short of endangered). That’s mainly because conservation efforts have resulted in an 11 percent growth in lion populations in Botswana, Namibia, South Africa and Zimbabwe. Most of these southern populations live within fenced reserves which have reached their carrying capacity and can’t support additional lion numbers.

    Outside of those four nations, things aren’t as good. Lion populations have fallen in most other countries, with an average decline of 60 percent. The worst hit has been the West African population of lions, which has now been classified as critically endangered. A study published last year found that only about 400 lions remained in the 17 nations of West Africa.
    So you agree it is not endangered
  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,346 AG
    Think about it.

    The king of the jungle is in trouble. Populations of African lions (Panthera leo leo) have declined by 42 percent over the past 21 years, according to data released this week by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN).

    The information comes through the latest update to the IUCN Red List, which continues to identify lions as “vulnerable to extinction” (one step short of endangered). That’s mainly because conservation efforts have resulted in an 11 percent growth in lion populations in Botswana, Namibia, South Africa and Zimbabwe. Most of these southern populations live within fenced reserves which have reached their carrying capacity and can’t support additional lion numbers.

    Outside of those four nations, things aren’t as good. Lion populations have fallen in most other countries, with an average decline of 60 percent. The worst hit has been the West African population of lions, which has now been classified as critically endangered. A study published last year found that only about 400 lions remained in the 17 nations of West Africa.

    Read more: http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?198573-So-they-want-to-kill-the-guy-who-killed-the-lion!/page11#ixzz3hrxFYRJK
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  • I'm waiting to see what trump has to say on this subject before rendering an opinion.
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  • CyclistCyclist Posts: 23,346 AG
    I'm waiting to see what trump has to say on this subject before rendering an opinion.

    Where do you think his mane transplants come from?
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  • Touche'
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  • mississippi macmississippi mac Posts: 4,222 Captain
    Gardawg wrote: »
    I'm thinking "drones" would be an option ... actually I'm content to read the Magazine every month ... as you can probably tell the only large cats I'll photo are in the zoo

    taking shots of lightning is enough adventure for me ...

    your lighting shots are pretty cool...

    and shooting "big game" with a camera requires more cajones....
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  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,477 AG
    Cyclist wrote: »
    He is wrong.

    No I am not.

    Lions are NOT considered to be endangered.
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  • pottydocpottydoc The thriving metropolis of Umatilla Posts: 3,418 Captain
    Cyclist wrote: »
    He is wrong.
    No he is not. Go check the WWF list yourself. Lions are not even listed as a species of special concern.
  • navigator2navigator2 Posts: 22,468 AG
    Plus he attempted to take it in an inhumane way.

    Why? Because he sucks at a clean kill with a bow? He hired an outfitter. I'd think, if I paid 50k I would get not only an ethical hunt but also a legal one. Wouldn't you expect the same? This is what bothers me most about the whole charade. If I can ever afford to leave the country to hunt duck and dove, I expect them to not let me nor them violate their country's laws. That makes extradition a **** joke, especially the amount of money he paid. He could have just bought an imported lion skin for what, 2k? What is inhumane about the hunt, other than he isn't a particularly good shot with a bow? Baiting is allowed in most states here for big game. Why is this any different? You want to shoot a big hog? Find a big corn pile. Last time I checked, lions aren't migratory fowl. :grin
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  • navigator2navigator2 Posts: 22,468 AG
    your lighting shots are pretty cool...

    and shooting "big game" with a camera requires more cajones....

    For the record. I tend to agree. But the politically correct idiots wanting to burn the trophy hunter are really just over the top. Sometimes you just want to tell the PETA jackazzes to go eff themselves. I have no desire to shoot some wild african beast, but so what? They are not endangered, and they are more than willing to take money (and this is their government talking) to allow so. Were the methods of take questionable? Opinions vary, apparently this was acceptable practice until the media took over. The stupid azzed PETA freaks and anti-hunters are out of control. They don't give a **** that their native people are starving, but will fawn all over a **** cat. The people in that village probably ate the meat from that cat.
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  • stc1993stc1993 Albany, GA Carrabelle, FLPosts: 5,813 Admiral
    There are a few women big game hunters on the death list too. Rebecca Francis, Kendall Jones, Eva Shockey, & the woman who killed the giraffe Sabrina Corgatelli.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/17/why-female-big-game-hunters-become-hunted-online-in-a-way-men-dont/
  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 8,445 Admiral
    Trophy hunters who publicize their kills are attention **** ...

    now they're finding out that attention does not equal approval ...

    welcome to the jungle ... now it's their turn to run and hide ... they're fair game and the chase is on
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    Heres Tom with the Weather.”
  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 8,445 Admiral
    navigator2 wrote: »
    Baiting is allowed in most states :grin


    where's the challenge in that? what about drones ? would you use a drone to find your quarry? if not then why not ?
    “Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.

    Heres Tom with the Weather.”
  • Is baiting the same as trolling?
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  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 8,445 Admiral
    Is baiting the same as trolling?


    No ... the trolled bait does not stay in the same place ... 'shooting' fish in a barrel is pretty pathetic IMO

    would you fish in the kiddie pool at the fish hatchery?

    the challenge of competing against a wild animal is the whole point of doing it IMO ... if you get your thrill from killing then why not just go down to the meat packing plant and use a bolt gun on cattle
    “Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.

    Heres Tom with the Weather.”
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