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Which IPilot do you guys recommend?

I am in the process of upgrading my old trolling motor to a new IPilot. I have 22ft seachaser that weighs around 2500 lbs. My old trolling motor did "okay" at 24v and 72lbs thrust. Is it worth it to upgrade to the 36v 112lb thrust or is that just going to be overkill. I am planning to fish around the jetties and the river area around Dames Point which is all new to me as I predominantly fished offshore. I know the currents can be ripping at times and not sure if the 80lb thrust would be enough to hold. I also want to use the spot lock feature on the right days to fish some stuff offshore as well. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Also I am in the market for a new onboard battery charger. What do you guys recommend for that as well?

Thanks,
Mark

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  • BoattronicsBoattronics Posts: 5,222 Admiral
    You will definitely want a 36v setup for that size boat, especially if you are planning on spending much time in the swift currents of the St.Johns. There are lots of great charging options but first batteries must be considered. It's better to have more than you really need than to be out there wishing you could hold your spot and cant.
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  • SpongkingSpongking Posts: 959 Officer
    Agreed. I have 24v 80lb which is perfectly good in creeks. But at jetty unless i hit tide right i cant hold well with troller alone. Its possible if i literally get into the rocks almost. But wishing even i went with a 112lb. Live and learn.
    Kev
  • Slug-OSlug-O Posts: 3,017 Captain
    112lb only for you buddy!!
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  • Seachaser220Seachaser220 Posts: 199 Deckhand
    Thanks everyone. I kind of knew the answer but was hoping to save 500-600 dollars if it was not needed along with more weight with the added battery.
  • The MidgeThe Midge Posts: 483 Deckhand
    Have a 22 ft pathfinder and had the wireless (remote) motor guide. It was fine as long a the battery was close to full charge. Once it began to go down I was on "full speed" from there on out.
    Here is my question..... If I had one of those on board chargers I think it would be ok assuming I moved around from spot to spot. Any thoughts Tony?
  • Seachaser220Seachaser220 Posts: 199 Deckhand
    The Midge wrote: »
    Have a 22 ft pathfinder and had the wireless (remote) motor guide. It was fine as long a the battery was close to full charge. Once it began to go down I was on "full speed" from there on out.
    Here is my question..... If I had one of those on board chargers I think it would be ok assuming I moved around from spot to spot. Any thoughts Tony?
    Would love to hear some opinions and perspective about this as well.
  • The MidgeThe Midge Posts: 483 Deckhand
    So does anyone have a on board charger (or whatever they are called)? And is it an option to have a lower rated trolling motor if it has the ability to regen from spot to spot? Thoughts??
  • BoattronicsBoattronics Posts: 5,222 Admiral
    I actually build my own charge on the run and switching systems, custom tailored to each boat for both 24v and 36v applications. I build them from scratch so they are not cheap.... but they work better than anything available imo.


    To answer the question, is a mathematical equation. How many amps is the engine alternator? How many/what size batteries, and how long is the run?

    In the real world, we have found in practice that short runs between spots don't do much. But if you have long runs between spots, you can get a good charge. These systems also shine in remote areas that have no dock power to charge off of..... again, as long as you have substantial runs there and back.
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  • KelvinKelvin Posts: 4 Greenhorn
    I am in the similar situation as the OP. I am a new boat owner – Carolina Sea Skiff 21’. Its listed dry weight is 2050 lbs. Adding people, fuel, batteries (I have 2 house batteries and a switch) and gear is pushing the thrust to weight ratio recommendation on the Minn Kota website up. I asked a question on the Carolina Skiff Owners website and the person who responded suggested the iPilot ST 80 lbs worked well for them (they have the same boat) but they aren’t dealing with our tidal changes (as was pointed out above). So now I have to look at the larger trolling motor. Thankfully the wife has held up on the combined birthday / Father’s day gift, saving more frustration.

    I need a recommendation for someone who could do the work. I am trying to learn about my boat but I think this project may be out of my skill set.
    1. My boat has a trolling motor plug but its listed as 12/24 V. Just guessing after looking at the Minn Kota website that this plug and wiring will need to be upgraded as the 112 is 36 V.
    2. Not sure about the actual install – again I am new at this so drilling into my new boat is intimidating.
    3. Battery selection and charger – don’t want to screw this up. Everything I have read stresses the importance.

    My boat is stored at a marina and we didn’t purchase a trailer. This leads to a side issue. We requested the install of the switch (marina requirement) before delivery. After consulting with my dad (former boat owner) I also paid for a second battery. Well the boat is delivered without these items. So the dealer arranges for a mobile mechanic, which he highly recommended. He missed the first install date (over-scheduled). On the second date he is unable to install the second battery (not enough wire because he couldn’t install it close to the first). He tells the marina he will be back that Friday but did not show. I open the compartment to find the switch was wedged behind the battery. It’s not even installed (screwed in place). I am informed that the mechanic will show this week to finish the install, which is going into its 4th week. Needless to say, I will not be using this mechanic again. So my next resource (dealer / mechanic) for advice is out or at least on the ropes.

    So I am looking for some advice. I have been lurking for a while and seen some good advice shared. Thank you in advance for your help.

    Kelvin
  • BoattronicsBoattronics Posts: 5,222 Admiral
    1. The wiring is likely to be of sufficient size, because when you increase voltage you decrease amperage, so you are probably good to go there.

    2. The actual trolley install is usually pretty easy. I recommend using a min Kota quick release puck, so you can take it on and off the boat as needed. You will need to wire in the 3rd batt to make it 36v.

    3. I would recommend large deep cycles, we usually install group 31s. I know of a special buy on Barracuda D.C. grp 31s right now for only about $100 each, and they are great batteries! I can help you pick out the charger as well.

    Give me a ring and I'll either guide you through it, or we can put you on my schedule.

    Sorry to hear about your bad experience! I'd also be glad to point you to some good mechanics, etc, as I've been in this field locally now for 17 years. In the future, try to use specialists for what they are good at! Let the mechanics stick to engine work, etc.
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