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DarcyDarcy Posts: 1,711 Captain
Started another thread on this, but im getting mixed opinions.
http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?174879-Fishing-marinas&p=2195617#post2195617
So i though i would go right to the source. lol
Fishing marinas.
What's your guys take on this. Some of the marinas have signs posted " no fishing". I don't want to break the law or have some harbor master come running down yelling at me. Is it legal for them to enforce no fishing in public water. Do they really own the water that flows into the marina.
What say you.?
"No i'm NOT Darcizzle!":blowkiss


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  • Capt.EdCapt.Ed Posts: 368 Deckhand
    This is such a hard subject to cover.
    First AS A FISHERMAN I want to fish anyplace and everyplace when I see water. And I want everyone else to enjoy fishing as much as I do.
    BUT...........
    As AS A MARINA OWNER AND OPERATOR I have to answer this with the truth. YES the marina has the right to keep you out of their waters... and here is why.
    10 We do pay the state of Florida every year to rent the land under the water inside any and all marina docks. This is known as a Submerged Land Lease.
    2) A basin cut out of the property is still "private property" as it was once land (just like your home property) and then the land was cut away for marina use. However it is still considered "private property" and NOT a navigational waterway.
    3) a marina needs to offer some sort of protection to the customers who are paying for "safe" dockage on their property.

    When I first purchased my Marina. I allowed people to fish from my property. Soon I realized that some people "theives" would blend in with the fishermen and take items from boats? (yes that bites)
    So I then made most of the property "No fishing" and sectioned off an area (around the store) for people to fish. BUT some people took advantage of that by leaving garbage, hooks, line, bait and even dead fish all over the docks. So I had to put a stop to that also.

    Now by law, and I have had to use the law from time to time, The LEO's were always on MY side and escorted the fishermen from MY private property. wether they came on foot, in a car or by boat. I hate to do it, but I must provide my customers with a clean, safe and private place to keep their boats.

    Try looking at this from the other side...
    If you kept your boat in a private marina, and paid your good money for a nice, clean and safe place for your vessel..... would you want strangers to be able to get close to your boat?
    Would you want to find fishing line and hooks stuck in your dock lines?
    Would you want to find a bunch of beer cans, rusty hooks, smelly bait, dead fish and trash sitting around your dock?
    It will be a sad day when the last little mom and pop marina is gone to developers and only the rich will be able to enjoy the waters of Florida.
  • SCFD rtrd.SCFD rtrd. Posts: 1,390 Officer
    Capt. Ed,
    People ask this same question all the time. Thank you for your candid answer. I just can't imagine anyone with a boat wanting to fish inside a marine. I own a condo in S/W Fl. and we have a small private marina. We have the same problems as you. Fishing line and hooks in dock lines, on our docks, cans and plastic bottles under our docks, dead bait on the docks, hooks stuck in the upholstery of boats, noise in the middle of the night, etc. Your answer was spot-on. People need to consider what they would want if they owned the marina.

    I understand the attraction. Most marinas are full of fish that eat the dead shrimp from the bait tanks and any left over bait that marina customers discard into the water. Basically the fish in a marina are pet-fish. Trained to take an easy meal. So, why would any real fisherman need to take advantage of such an easy target.
  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 6,007 Admiral
    If people would just be considerate of others it would be no problem but, that is the problem people rarely are and it only takes one bad apple to spoil it for everyone.
    Tight Lines, Steve
    My posts are my opinion only.

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  • jeffjonesjeffjones Posts: 99 Greenhorn
    Nothing beats a nice fat marina shrimp feed mangrove snapper :wink

    for those public water marinas there is no shame in catching supper but don't do it during business hours.
    do it after dark but be quiet, clean and respectful of the property around the marina.
  • snookpigsnookpig Posts: 34 Greenhorn
    Its more complicated than this. If the marina is Dug out of private land, you are correct in being able to ask people to leave. The reason we fish marinas is simular to why bank robbers rob banks (thats where the $$$ is). In SW florida there are several "marinas" that are complicated docks built out into navigable waterways. Big snook live there, So i asked our local FWC commander what was going to happen when I fish it. He said he had instructed his officers to not answer complaint calls about this as it was leagle to fish there. So, stay out of the way of boat trafic and fish. VERY grey area
  • pottydocpottydoc Port Saint JoePosts: 4,887 Captain
    Not a grey area at all, and been covered many times on here before. While the marina might rent the land under the docks, they do not rent the water. You can fish all you want as long as you don't touch the docks, sea wall, etc. but, while it is legal, most folks aren't gonna do it during business hours. The marina is trying to make money, pay their employees, and so on. No need to interfere with that. Wait till they close.
  • Capt.EdCapt.Ed Posts: 368 Deckhand
    All I'm saying is... This photo shows my property. the yellow line represents the natural walls of the river. inside that yellow line is a man made cut into Private Property. If you come inside that yellow line and are asked to leave and you do not leave I can have you arrested for tresspassing. It's that simple
    The law inforcement officers from both the county sheriff and the FWC have both advised me of these FACTS.
    It will be a sad day when the last little mom and pop marina is gone to developers and only the rich will be able to enjoy the waters of Florida.
  • Capt.EdCapt.Ed Posts: 368 Deckhand
    Oh and BTW I only pay lease for the docks that are on the river side of that yellow line... The docks on the property side of that line are on private property.
    It will be a sad day when the last little mom and pop marina is gone to developers and only the rich will be able to enjoy the waters of Florida.
  • pottydocpottydoc Port Saint JoePosts: 4,887 Captain
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