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Fed waters grouper consumption

SaltygatorvetSaltygatorvet TallahasseePosts: 5,807 Admiral
I've heard it is legal to keep a grouper to eat ( on the boat) when in federal waters. I was told you could legally eat a grouper even when out of season. It this true?
You should have been here yesterday

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  • Jack HexterJack Hexter New Port RicheyPosts: 5,342 Moderator
    Yes you can eat a grouper on the boat. Doesn't make a difference between Federal or State water. You CANNOT eat one out of season and the one you eat counts against your limit
  • Yes you can eat a grouper on the boat. Doesn't make a difference between Federal or State water. You CANNOT eat one out of season and the one you eat counts against your limit

    Not sure how they are going to count the ones you eat........
  • Roc N RolRoc N Rol Posts: 1,352 Officer
    I think Jack has it wrong on this one.

    The way I see it is NO you cant eat a grouper that you caught while out fishing on the trip you caught the grouper. You are allowed 1 1/2 pounds of filets per person if you have the means to cook it, but any grouper you catch while out fishing has to be landed in whole condition. So you could not filet it before landing it. The filets would have to be taken out with you from a grouper caught from another trip. I think if you were be checked by an leo while in the process of fileting a grouper, or while cooking the grouper with a fileted carcass on board while out fishing you would be in a lot of hot water. And you could eat a grouper out of season if you took some grouper filets out with you that were caught on another trip.
  • Jack HexterJack Hexter New Port RicheyPosts: 5,342 Moderator
    RnR,, Don't think I'm wrong, but I can't find it in any of the regulations, at least where I've looked. I do recall you are correct that one is allowed 1.5# of fillet per person. And the exception to landing in a whole condition would be for consumption on board. This topic has come up before and the answer to Ron's question is honesty.
  • Jack HexterJack Hexter New Port RicheyPosts: 5,342 Moderator
    RnR,, Don't think I'm wrong, but I can't find it in any of the regulations, at least where I've looked. I do recall you are correct that one is allowed 1.5# of fillet per person. And the exception to landing in a whole condition would be for consumption on board. This topic has come up before and the answer to Ron's question is honesty.

    I cannot find the reference to reef fish, but here's Florida law on redfish:


    68B-22.006 Other Prohibitions; Applicability.
    (1) The harvest of any redfish in or from state waters by or with the use of any multiple hook in conjunction with live or dead natural bait is prohibited. Spearing or snagging (snatch hooking) of redfish in or from state waters is prohibited.
    (2) It is unlawful for any person to possess, transport, buy, sell, exchange or attempt to buy, sell or exchange any redfish harvested in violation of this chapter.
    (3) No operator of a vessel in or on state waters shall allow the possession aboard the vessel of any redfish not in compliance with established bag limits, size limits, seasons or any prohibited gear as specified in this chapter or in Chapter 68B-4, F.A.C.
    (4) All redfish harvested from Florida waters shall be landed in a whole condition. The possession, while in or on state waters, on any public or private fishing pier, or on a bridge or catwalk attached to a bridge from which fishing is allowed, or on any jetty, of any redfish that has been deheaded, sliced, divided, filleted, ground, skinned, scaled or deboned is prohibited. Mere evisceration or “gutting” of redfish, or mere removal of gills from redfish, before landing is not prohibited. Preparation of redfish for immediate consumption on board the vessel from which the fish were caught is not prohibited.
    (5) Provisions of this rule chapter shall not apply to redfish artificially spawned and raised in commercial aquaculture facilities. Failure to maintain appropriate receipt(s), bill(s), bill(s) of sale, or bill(s) of lading, that such redfish were artificially spawned and raised in commercial aquaculture facilities, shall constitute a violation of this rule.
    (6) The simultaneous possession aboard a vessel of any gill net or entangling net together with any redfish is prohibited.
  • SaltygatorvetSaltygatorvet TallahasseePosts: 5,807 Admiral
    Clear as mud. Thanks for the help gentlemen
    You should have been here yesterday
  • Roc N RolRoc N Rol Posts: 1,352 Officer
    if we're lucky Special Agent Coker may I join in on this thread and give us the federalbrick regs on this
  • Jack HexterJack Hexter New Port RicheyPosts: 5,342 Moderator
    I did a little moe searching and found this thread
    http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?24649-Exemption-for-Consumption-at-Sea&highlight=consumption+board

    This thread cites the Federal regulation where you are allowed to cook a fish on the vessel on which it was caught, and the cite was provided by SA Coker
  • NOAA-EnforcementNOAA-Enforcement Posts: 202 Moderator
    In the Gulf you are allowed to eat a legal grouper that should be counted against your bag limit for the day. You can't return with any fillets etc.
    My purpose on this site is to help everyone understand Federal Fishery Regulations and to provide information. Working with the Florida Sportsman is a collateral (volunteer) duty I asked for and enjoy; I will only give you an answer that I’m willing to put my name on and stand behind. Sometimes that means checking with other agents/offices in the area of concern.
    Please Stay Safe And Have A Wonderful Day.
    Special Agent Allan Coker
    NOAA's Office For Fishery Law Enforcement
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