Dry Storage Etiquette

I keep my boat at one of the dry storage facilities is Fort Myers, and when we come down to fish they put the boat in the water and when dropped off they rinse/flush and dry store the boat again. We don't have these facilities up north where I normally fish. Is it expected/common to "tip" the attendant at the facility when we pick up and drop off the boat?

Thanks for the input

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  • Luna SeaLuna Sea Posts: 562 Officer
    It depends on the facility , if it is owner owned and has a HOA as Sanibel Yacht Harbor tipping is not allowed . Most private owned marinas that rent I would advise to tip . Take care of the help and they will take care of you , sometimes in more ways than just the boat .
  • Incepta NovaIncepta Nova Posts: 23 Greenhorn
    I keep mine at Marine Dynamics near Stump Pass and I do generally give a tip and at Christmas I give bonus tips. They know me and make sure my boat is ready, fueled, ice.....etc. when my wife goes down to clean the boat, they drag hoses over and always go out of their way to help us. You can say that it's their job, but it is polite to show your appreciation. A 5 or 10 dollar tip will get you a million dollars worth of service above and beyond. I've seen boaters show up pissed and moaning, groaning because they are busy and maybe five minutes behind.. maybe say it's ok and throw them a fiver. they will remember you and tell the other guys.
  • MACDMACD Lee CountyPosts: 4,812 Captain
    Luna Sea wrote: »
    Sanibel Yacht Harbor tipping is not allowed .

    That's true........ But the management, under direction of the Board, sends out an annual memo
    to the owners promoting a monetary fund for annual bonuses for the hired help.

    And that's good too.......
  • RexLanRexLan Posts: 868 Officer
    Why don't the pay their employees a decent wage so this it is not necessary?

    If I put my boat there and don't tip then I get second rate service for the same price as the guy doling out tips?

    Sanibel Yacht Club board is mindless if they "direct" that BS to back door the tip. My money says it is the management that is behind it.
    Port Charlotte, Florida
  • :grin Boat dispensing gratuities umbrage.
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  • RMDRMD Posts: 1,796 Officer
    It's never a bad idea to throw them a 5 dollar tip if they treat you right. However, at Marine Max in Sarasota their hours are 8-5. We typically push off before they open and return after they are closed.

    When I am there during normal hours of operation, if someone goes out of their way to help us I will definitely give them a tip. Most times when I show up and the boat is just sitting there I probably do not tip, simply because I don't carry cash around very often. I could personally do a better job of giving gratuity in order to make their day a little bit better.
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  • RMD wrote: »
    It's never a bad idea to throw them a 5 dollar tip if they treat you right.

    That's right. It is always money well spent to reward personal services providers for their attention and level of service. Its part of developing a mutually beneficial relationship by being a good customer.
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  • MACDMACD Lee CountyPosts: 4,812 Captain
    RexLan wrote: »
    Why don't the pay their employees a decent wage so this it is not necessary?

    If I put my boat there and don't tip then I get second rate service for the same price as the guy doling out tips?

    Sanibel Yacht Club board is mindless if they "direct" that BS to back door the tip. My money says it is the management that is behind it.

    Nope.......the board of directors have full control of management policies.....
    Management is only the executor and enforcer of the board's policies.
  • RexLanRexLan Posts: 868 Officer
    MACD wrote: »
    Nope.......the board of directors have full control of management policies.....
    Management is only the executor and enforcer of the board's policies.

    If you don't tip you are not a good customer ......
    Port Charlotte, Florida
  • SCFD rtrd.SCFD rtrd. Posts: 1,369 Officer
    Do you tip at restaurants???? It's basically the same thing. These guys are being paid minimal wage, hustling boats for people who are more financially sound. It makes me feel good to tip, however it also makes me feel good to chew someone's **** that delivers substandard performance.
  • MACDMACD Lee CountyPosts: 4,812 Captain
    I understand the "good etiquette" of customers tipping for good service rendered....... That's good stuff.

    But I was merely pointing out that the people that use the Sanibel Harbor Yacht Club services are not "customers",
    they are "owners/members". So they chose to use an annual fund raiser in lieu of every day "tipping"........

    I'm sure most of them are not "cheap ****".............
  • PilchardPilchard Posts: 1,373 Officer
    Same could be said for private country clubs and the vast majority of members still offer gratuity based on performance and relationships.

    Take a 5$ bill out of your pocket and make somebody happy. You will find they will go above and beyond to keep you happy as well.
  • MACDMACD Lee CountyPosts: 4,812 Captain
    Pilchard wrote: »
    Same could be said for private country clubs and the vast majority of members still offer gratuity based on performance and relationships.

    Then the same should be said for an HOA that provides lawn service.

    You should go out and tip the lawn people every time they cut your lawn......that would be ridiculous.

    Now if you want to tip, thats fine, but not expected. Other measures are in place to compensate for that.
  • RexLanRexLan Posts: 868 Officer
    MACD wrote: »
    Then the same should be said for an HOA that provides lawn service.

    You should go out and tip the lawn people every time they cut your lawn......that would be ridiculous.


    If you don't are you are a "cheap ***" ????

    What about the check out person at the grocery? Don't the deserve a tip?
    Port Charlotte, Florida
  • PilchardPilchard Posts: 1,373 Officer
    RexLan wrote: »
    If you don't are you are a "cheap ***" ????

    What about the check out person at the grocery? Don't the deserve a tip?

    You guys are comparing apples to oranges. Private marinas and country clubs are slightly different than lawn services and grocery store.
  • RexLanRexLan Posts: 868 Officer
    Pilchard wrote: »
    You guys are comparing apples to oranges. Private marinas and country clubs are slightly different than lawn services and grocery store.

    Au contraire

    The lawn guy, he will do that "little extra" for a "fiver" and as "G" says, "Its [all]part of developing a mutually beneficial relationship by being a good customer."

    When your grass goes to weeds you only need to look to yourself ... your own **** fault for being a cheap ***! My lawn is perfect, but they better not put a hole in my yacht - tip or no tip!

    Conclusion -- no tip and you are a bad customer because as "G" said -- good customers tip.
    :Agree
    Port Charlotte, Florida
  • PilchardPilchard Posts: 1,373 Officer
    Ok... Let's take a step back here...

    Nobody is disagreeing with the fact that gratuities lead to better service. Also, most people that belong to this type of club would not be affected financially by giving a small tip each time they used the facility.

    So I guess the question is, why would you be against giving a tip? I can't think of a valid reason unless you are from a country that believes tipping is insulting.
  • DarcyDarcy Posts: 1,711 Captain
    Pilchard wrote: »
    unless you are from a country that believes tipping is insulting.
    Really. What country. I know your not supposed to hug in china. My daughter told me this yesterday in fact. lol
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  • PilchardPilchard Posts: 1,373 Officer
    Austrailia, Vietnam, New Zealand, China, Japan, Italy.

    Just to name a few.
  • DarcyDarcy Posts: 1,711 Captain
    Pilchard wrote: »
    Austrailia, Vietnam, New Zealand, China, Japan, Italy.

    Just to name a few.
    Dam. I did not know that. Tx pilch
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  • RMDRMD Posts: 1,796 Officer
    Pilchard wrote: »
    So I guess the question is, why would you be against giving a tip? I can't think of a valid reason unless you are from a country that believes tipping is insulting.

    I think the basic premise is that many people are paying 300-500 dollars a month to keep their boat at a marina. It's already fairly expensive and a typical consumer may think they are already paying enough for simple storage. When the marina employees simply put the boat in the water they are performing the most basic level of service for your monthly fees. Its part of the job description.

    In contrast, waiters are paid well below minimum wage in some areas with the expectation that gratuity will contribute to their overall compensation. Additionally, when you file your tax returns they automatically add (roughly) 8% to your W2 as an estimate of gratuities you receive as part of the job. For example, when I worked as a waiter in California my salary was $2.13 an hour and minimum wage was between 4-5 dollars an hour.

    I am not sure what the marina guys earn but I am pretty sure it's not below minimum wage.

    Long story short, the guys at my marina are nice guys and they work hard. I do give them gratuity at times- but not every time. When the guy comes up to me, says hello, helps my push off or tie up, helps me carry ice... I am more inclined to provide gratuity. If I show up and the boat is just sitting there, a few guys are sitting in the hut and don't even acknowledge me, I am probably less likely to tip.
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  • PRassaPRassa Posts: 34 Greenhorn
    Maybe, but at SHYC we are not customers, we are owners. Employees and owners are prohibited from receiving/giving tips. The service is always top-notch--best I have seen at any marina. At Christmas time the owners contribute to a fund for a year-end bonus for all employees. It works very well. Employees are always friendly and there is low turnover. And each owner is always treated with respect.

    Hands down the best place to keep a boat that I have every experienced. And 100' from fast water.
  • RexLanRexLan Posts: 868 Officer
    @RMD ... well said and exactly on-point. You're right, the marina guys make a heck of allot more than $2.13 hr. which is the current min wage for tipped employees. The marina operators charge plenty and they should pay a decent wage to the employees.

    I've been pulling Pilchard's chain because of what Mr. "C" thinks about good customers, which is BS, IMHO.
    Port Charlotte, Florida
  • MACDMACD Lee CountyPosts: 4,812 Captain
    PRassa wrote: »
    Maybe, but at SHYC we are not customers, we are owners. Employees and owners are prohibited from receiving/giving tips. The service is always top-notch--best I have seen at any marina. At Christmas time the owners contribute to a fund for a year-end bonus for all employees. It works very well. Employees are always friendly and there is low turnover. And each owner is always treated with respect.

    Hands down the best place to keep a boat that I have every experienced. And 100' from fast water.

    Good post.


    The "No tipping" policy, I think, was based on that all owners are treated "equal" with regards service.

    The owner that feels a $5.00 tip is a substantial tip, would be competing against the owner
    that is willing to drop $50.00 or $100.00........

    It stands to reason which owner would get better service.
  • :rotflmao

    IMHYEOAE, demonstrating recognition and appreciation for exceptional service with an unrequired gratuity (that's why its called that) is an effective and painless way of ensuring it continue as well as my place in line being ahead of yours. :blowkiss
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  • MACDMACD Lee CountyPosts: 4,812 Captain
    :rotflmao

    IMHYEOAE, demonstrating recognition and appreciation for exceptional service with an unrequired gratuity (that's why its called that) is an effective and painless way of ensuring it continue as well as my place in line being ahead of yours. :blowkiss

    Well of course, I would be a fool not to believe there is still a few "under the table tips" happening a SHYC...

    But the worst part is.............. the employee will get fired before the owner gets reprimanded.

    So now the owner puts the employee in jeopardy, just by "tipping"...........

    Is this right or wrong?.............I''m not an owner or employee , so it's none of my business how they run their club.
  • MACD wrote: »

    Is this right or wrong?.............I''m not an owner or employee , so it's none of my business how they run their club.

    That's what Christmas is for, Steve.
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  • MACDMACD Lee CountyPosts: 4,812 Captain
    That's what Christmas is for, Steve.

    The Board tracks the owners that are Christmas scrooges..............thats good too..........
  • PRassaPRassa Posts: 34 Greenhorn
    :rotflmao

    IMHYEOAE, demonstrating recognition and appreciation for exceptional service with an unrequired gratuity (that's why its called that) is an effective and painless way of ensuring it continue as well as my place in line being ahead of yours. :blowkiss
    Never thought of it that way--at SHYC we are more like socialists and most commercial marinas are capitalist. That would generally rub me the wrong way but I like it.
  • The wealth of the petit bourgeoisie trickling down to the industrial proletariat!
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