binellishtr wrote: »
Johnny, read here it is extinct. http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2011/03/eastern-cougar-officially-declared-extinct/1#.U38dvfldUo4
Thus is the plan to re introduce the species by a technical error....that being the so called Fl Panther
It is a big plan, real big plan we've just been the test cell,but let the expansion begin
The eastern cougar is a subspecies of the cougar, which includes the Florida panther and the western cougar. There are multiple subspecies, though exactly how many is debated among biologists. All are called by several names depending on the area, including puma, panther, mountain lion, catamount, cougar and painter.
JohnnyBandit wrote: »
Eastern Cougar is not the same subspecies as the Panther..... In fact it is poorly written but the article actually states that.
And all of the subspecies have historically interbred naturally.... the Florida Panther Lost that ability....
And I will tell you something.... When guys like you..... Start that "the panther is extinct" rhetoric... You drive away guys like me. That are 4th, 5th or 6th generation Floridians that have a LONG tradition of BOTH hunting and ranching and want to see the panthers expansion tightly controlled.
spfldbowhunter wrote: »
The "panther" is a subspecies, not the other way around.
You're in a very short line of hunters and ranchers wanting to see any cougar expansion- controlled or not.
binellishtr wrote: »
I'm honored you BOLD my name....join the BOHICA nation now
N. Cook wrote: »
Well.....actually the latest published international science (although the USFWS people noted their objection) is that their is only one "subspecies" of panther in all of North America...there are five others...one in lower Central America and the others in various distinct regions of South America.
The reason the USFWS "disagree" is because all of a sudden that would make the Florida Panther just another panther population in North America with nothing different than those in CA or TX or any of the western states and Canada....The question of whether the local panther is even an "endangered" species is raised.....and the uniqueness of the Florida population that is a great "environmentalist" cause and money raiser here in Florida.....Being an Endangered Species is crucial to some stakeholders' objectives, but the designation has had negative impacts on public access and activity on lands with panthers....
"Hidden Motives"????.....they are a bigger player than often stated by the USFWS.
Ol Mucky wrote: »
sometimes I wonder what happened to the Sabre Tooth Cats in Florida?
gladesman wrote: »
Why, Heck even all of the land South of the lake isn't enough for the 160 cats agencies say might be there currently. Just with 160 cats a female with cubs been spotted residential neighborhood miles North of Dupuis WMA. It will be interesting to see where cats wind up when and if 240 of them ever inhabit the lands North of Lake O.
SLW210 wrote: »
Then maybe you would be the one that needs to sit on the board.
Who do I need to contact to suggest that you be on the board and if not you, who would you suggest?
It is interesting to note that the Eastern Cougar has been declared extinct despite sightings and actual evidence they still exist throughout the Appalachians yet no effort to force a repopulation anywhere but Florida. Seems more of an agenda of (?) than anything to me, they certainly add nothing to the ecosystem that I can see, the Appalachians are doing well without them, why wouldn't Florida?
If not repopulating to hunt them, then what is the intended purpose? There are plenty out west, tell the Libs to move out there, lots of illegally confiscated government land out there as well, Liberal paradise I tell you!
redneck_billcollector wrote: »
The number one location determined for reestablishment is actually in SEGA in the Okefenokee area, that is what the plan calls for. Ironically in GA many of those that hunt want them here. I am one of them. I know that GA would establish a hunting season once they became established, just as they have done out west with the wolves. I personally have gone out west to hunt them and it is exciting, plus they taste good.....I am curious as to their habits with regards to eastern coyotes. I know out west once wolves got reestablished they seem to kill wolves and wolves kill them. If they killed coyotes I am sure most in GA would welcome them with open arms.
Does anyone know of any studies about their relationship with south eastern coyotes? If so, could someone post a link?
gottheitch22 wrote: »
ALL PREDATORS kill each other. Competiton is not wanted by any of them .
Batemaster wrote: »
So they're already naturally beginning to love north. Taking the path of least resistance east of the lake. No need for us to interfere.