Offshore Cudjoe, 1-18-14 Snowy Grouper in the box

Slept in this morning expecting brisk north winds. Wrong! It was flat calm, and with Snowy Grouper catching open we decided to take advantage of conditions and try for one. We headed out at 10:15 and cruised to to a spot in 575 feet with a 20 foot ledge that I know held Grouper.

We got to the spot and started a drift to see where and how fast we would go while I set up the gear. Went back to the starting spot, dropped to the bottom and started the first drift. Immediately started getting hits and finally the rod bows over with a solid hookup. Up comes the gear with a 30" Snowy at the end. Mission accomplished 1hour and 5 minutes after leaving the dock. A once in a thousand day.
Capt. Tom Urban, "urbanRenewal", Cudjoe Key, FL www.LooeKeyReefAdventures.com

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  • AMPEDAMPED Posts: 619 Officer
    Nice fish, when did they open Snowy Grouper back up?
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  • Chewdog2121Chewdog2121 Posts: 469 Officer
    Nice fish Captain! Well done sir.
  • ShallowSaltShallowSalt Posts: 195 Officer
    Nice catching Capt. That is not a bad couple hours at all. Enjoy your grouper!
    AMPED wrote: »
    Nice fish, when did they open Snowy Grouper back up?

    Opened up January 1st. Still a 1/vessel/day bag limit.
  • ExocetExocet Posts: 55 Deckhand
    Great job Tom, way to do it.
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  • flbluerunnerflbluerunner Posts: 712 Officer
    Great job, we went out last week on a similar mission, found yellow edge grouper but not snowies, figured they would be hungry but not the case.
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  • urbanRenewalurbanRenewal Posts: 395 Officer
    found yellow edge grouper

    Just so I'm sure, is the season for Yellow Edge open or closed. I'm under the impression it is closed now?

    On another subject, I'm still trying to find a Golden Tilefish. Have yet to catch one. Have a few spots that produce Blues regularly but have not seen a Golden. Do they inhabit the same areas?
    Capt. Tom Urban, "urbanRenewal", Cudjoe Key, FL www.LooeKeyReefAdventures.com
  • AMPEDAMPED Posts: 619 Officer
    Looks like yellow edge is closed in the Atlantic and I believe the keys are classified as the Atlantic as far as the regs go (both Atlantic and Gulf sides). The regs in the keys are beyond difficult to follow, so I am probably wrong........ I have been told that you catch Golden Tiles in areas that have muddy bottoms as opposed to rocky ledges.
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  • AMPEDAMPED Posts: 619 Officer
    Also just pointing out no one said they kept any yellow edge grouper only that they found them, so everyone can stay calm.
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  • HawkboatHawkboat Posts: 1,030 Officer
    Nice job and better fish, enjoy it!
    Capt Bill
  • Bill WelderBill Welder Posts: 92 Greenhorn
    Nice fish Tom.
    Yellowedge grouper is a deep water grouper. FWIW I believe the season opened 1/1/2014.

    Yellowfin grouper and Yellowmouth grouper are shallow water grouper and are closed until 5/1/2014.

    If I am wrong, I would assume the self proclaimed sheriff from Boca named [email protected] will enlighten me when he calls the feds.
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  • urbanRenewalurbanRenewal Posts: 395 Officer
    Bill, I looked for some updates to the listing before asking the question about Yellowedge. The most recent I could find on line is here:http://safmc.net/sites/default/files/Regulations/pdf/RecRegsSummary%20111813_rev.pdf but the last update was in Nov 13.

    According to this Yellow edge was never closed? I don't know where I heard it was but now I'm really confused.
    Capt. Tom Urban, "urbanRenewal", Cudjoe Key, FL www.LooeKeyReefAdventures.com
  • sparse greysparse grey Posts: 1,751 Captain
    Confusion is widespread - however, nice fish Tom.
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  • SlamaholicSlamaholic Posts: 389 Officer
    Great Job
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  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 4,809 Captain
    Nice Snowy Captain.

    As for Yellowedge, they were (are) always open in the Atlantic as they aren't in the "shallow water" grouper complex. The problem is that if you specifically targeted for them in S. Florida, you'd probably have to cull 20 Snowies for every YE you catch, unless you got lucky and found a little aggregate of them as a previous poster did.. YE's seem to be a little more common in the Gulf.

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  • swordslayer71swordslayer71 Posts: 398 Deckhand
    conchydong wrote: »
    As for Yellowedge, they were (are) always open in the Atlantic as they aren't in the "shallow water" grouper complex.


    Yellowedge are regulated by SAFMC, and are the least closed DD grouper for sure. Great job again Tom, glad to see you getting more and more dialed in on the DD game. It makes up for sluggish offshore conditions.
  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 4,809 Captain
    Yellowedge are regulated by SAFMC, and are the least closed DD grouper for sure. Great job again Tom, glad to see you getting more and more dialed in on the DD game. It makes up for sluggish offshore conditions.

    Yes, they are regulated as they count in the 3 grouper per person limits. I have never known them to be closed for recreational harvest ever in the S. Atlantic, unless you want to count the brief 240' rule. Even then they can be caught in less than 240' on rare occasions.

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  • HawkboatHawkboat Posts: 1,030 Officer
    What about for Gulf rules, anyone know?
    Capt Bill
  • flbluerunnerflbluerunner Posts: 712 Officer
    It is a shame that there is so much confusion. Too many entities making too many rules.
    Got a snowy and 2 yellow edges on Monday, what a beautiful day on the water.
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  • conchydongconchydong Pompano BeachPosts: 4,809 Captain
    Hawkboat wrote: »
    What about for Gulf rules, anyone know?

    4 deepwater groupers (Snowy, Yellowedge) per person. http://www.gulfcouncil.org/fishing_regulations/RecreationalRegulations.pdf

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  • HawkboatHawkboat Posts: 1,030 Officer
    Thank you.
    Capt Bill
  • Got TA GoGot TA Go Posts: 2,608 Captain
    Nice catch!

    Glad the Yellowedge question was cleared up. Sorry I missed it. :beer

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