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Tyndall AFB is STILL Planning to restrict OUR Access to OUR Waterways !!!
reel stamas
Posts: 6,153 Admiral
Attention: Public meeting about Tyndall AFB's proposed waterway restrictions: Thursday, December 19 at 6:00pm at Gulf Coast Community College. All are invited; please spread the word.
There should be NO Commercial Fishing for any fish species considered 'Over-fished' , 'Undergoing Overfishing' or Subject to Recreational Seasons, Limits, or Closures... Game Fish Status IS the Answer !!!
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This appears to be a done deal. It supposedly has been in the works since 9/11. This meeting was a presentation and here is what we are going to do. The public can talk and make their opinions known but it really doesn't matter, we are doing this anyway. That is my take on it.
There is supposedly going to be a 500' line from the mean high water line drawn and if a heightened alert of security comes about, Tyndall is going to enforce this temporary boundary line for a short time period. They would not elaborate on how temporary or what they considered a short period of time constituted. They did say it would be business as usual and they would not be checking people out on the water due to Fl laws not forcing people to have to carry ID on themselves if born before 1988. If a threat occurs supposedly they are not going to close the entire shoreline, only the area they consider a threat. Tyndall stated if you need to get into a closed area for some reason, the public can get an access pass from the base commander which could take up to a week to obtain to access that area. It will not be closed when doing maneuvers or drills, only if a heightened security threat is ascertained. Card carrying military will not even be allowed in these closed off areas. Tyndall stated they have not had any security threat as of yet, they just want a plan in place in case one arises. Any current access points the public has currently will continue to be available with no closures. Tyndall will not have any additional staff patrolling or checking people. They will be out there just looking and be the eyes and ears of the security forces. They have no law enforcement control over the public in the public waterways. If an area is closed then they will. Tyndall stated the public will go to jail if the public refuses to leave the closed area.
The public did have many great comments and concerns and many were viable.
I do not like the way this is being done. I feel it is infringing on our freedoms of accessing public waterways and the government taking more and more from the general public. 500' is not going to stop anything from the water. I think once this plan gets passed, they will have a sudden heightened state of treat and will close the waters around the base permanently. The only solution I see to this getting stopped is close the base. Granted this would not be great for the local economy but if that will stop this then it is an option. We would get some public land back that we could access again, if it was closed. One of the other solutions mentioned, by the public, was to fence off the areas on Tyndall which needed the additional security. That is not a bad idea. They said that would cost to much. If this does get passed, the public can definitely kiss any thought of getting the East Pass re-opened good bye.
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For those concerned with the waterway restrictions, below is a map outlining all of Tyndall’s area of responsibility. The yellow line outlines Tyndall property. The blue line depicts 500 ft. from the shoreline and the red dots signify grid coordinates.
Tyndall is not closing anything. This security zone has always been there, just never publicized or ever put into effect.
The problem is that with all government speak is that these officers putting this out are speaking in typical officer double speak!
Of course if there is a attack or a serious security threat the base will be either closed or certain areas will be closed and secured, as to be expected.
All high risk areas on Tyndall are either fenced or patrolled and in most cases both. Try getting onto the flight line or bomb dump, or the SEADS building.
As I told the base commander and others before, the best security that Tyndall has is us! Don't **** off the natives. If any of us sees something out of the ordinary a cell phone call will happen. After all the Air Force knows they do not have enough security personel or equipment to cover all that area.
I spent over 13 years stationed at Tyndall and been thru numerous security exercises. Securing the base is standard operating procedure, after all thats a hell of a lot of taxpayers money sitting on that flightline.
I depend on Tyndall for a living. Maybe we should see about shutting down where ever it is you work and make money to feed your family. Would you like that?
No way! I really like having the bases around. It helps the local economy and the defense of our nation. Plenty of water out there to fish.