Lowrance hds7 or garmin 740s

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  • FinsfanFinsfan Posts: 604 Officer
    Prob would look like this..... other than the bait ball **** is this? Lava?

    Looks like a hole on soft bottom with bait all around it.
  • perlman1234perlman1234 Posts: 1,449 Officer
    A pot hole or Mt. St. Helens?
  • capeanglercapeangler Posts: 586 Officer
    Trying to find a screen shot on my new C Series, but here's a screen shot on my old E80 in 68' of water with a giant ball of Mangos and Lanes way up on the water column on hard/rocky bottom



    That's a 6 pounder.....2 Man Fed Limit of big Mangs plus lots 18-22" Lanes that day in 68' of water in the day time. That's what they looked like zoomed in on the old RM with a 600W Ducer.
  • perlman1234perlman1234 Posts: 1,449 Officer
    Bad pic but you can see the bottom and structure and I will let you guess the type of fish that are on it.... Cape knows.
  • Capt Dan MedinaCapt Dan Medina Posts: 691 Officer
    capeangler wrote: »
    Careful when budgeting; these are only displays. You will need a transducer ($225 B60 - 600W or $670 B164 - 1KW) and you will also need a DSM 30 (600W) or DSM 300 (1KW) which is around $430 and $650 respectively. All in for a 14" MFD with 1KW you will be at $2,320. new this set up was close to 5k with the DSM and Ducer. The C140 is the 2nd Generation Platform, and unlike the 1st, you will not need a separate antenna.

    The new 3rd generation C Class, you can buy with the built in sounder module, avoiding the requirement and installation of a separate DSM. But then again, the new C 12" screens will run you $2,000 for the C125 (No sounder) and $2,200 with the built in sounder module (On line prices)..... or $2,870 with the built in sounder and a 1KW transducer. RM no longer makes a 14" screen in the C Class (Third Generation). If you want a 14" screen, you have to jump up to E165 (15.4"), which is a whopping $5,300 plus $670 for the transducer. Then you would definitely be balling right alongside the guys with the commercial grade Furunos.

    I've got the 3rd Generation C97s. I purchased in June of 2012, when it first came out. I think I was in it for $1,860 + TX at West Marine (Price matched it online); original price was just under $2,300. WM sells now for $2,200, so there was a slight reduction in price. With some of the new crap coming out for 2014, I would not be surprised if you see further reductions to the new Generation RM's if that is the route you go. The deal on the C140 however, expires in 5 days, and once RM is out of inventory, you wont have a choice but to look at the new generation stuff.


    Budget wise, that is quite a bit more than I had anticipated. Was looking at 1000 to 1300 as far as budget. Ray marine with all necessary equipment puts me way over... Deal ending on the 30th, so gotta figure out if I want to splurge or not.

    Oh, decisions decisions
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    Offshore Fishing Charters FT Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral
  • capeanglercapeangler Posts: 586 Officer
    Budget wise, that is quite a bit more than I had anticipated. Was looking at 1000 to 1300 as far as budget. Ray marine with all necessary equipment puts me way over... Deal ending on the 30th, so gotta figure out if I want to splurge or not.

    Oh, decisions decisions

    Ray marine a77 with built in 600w sonar module for $1,000 plus $225 for b60 600w thru hull; free shipping and no tax and call it the day. Touch screen, wifi, blue tooth, 3 yr warranty, etc. It will bw nearly impossible getting into a 1kw unit for $1,300 but not really necessary here on the west coast
  • larrywittlarrywitt Posts: 2,566 Moderator
    Just my 2 cents worth. I run a Garmin 3210 10 inch screen and a newer Garmin 546s 5inch on one of the boats I run and a 546s on the other.. I have used Garmins for years easy to use, great tech help if needed. Did not break the bank to buy them. It would be nice to see how good their new Chirp sounders are? But at this point once you learn to read your own unit it will do the job.
    See if you can bum a ride to see the different units at work.
    There are a lot of good units out there it amounts to $$$$$ you want to spend.
    larrywitt
  • Jason117Jason117 Posts: 57 Deckhand
    1 thing I wish they would stop doing is bundling the screen size with the features of the unit.

    For example, anybody can buy a 20+ inch cheapo LCD for 100 bucks these days. It would be great if some of the lower end units, even my dinky elite 7, had a basic RCA video output. But you have to get into the 4k dollar raymarine stuff to get that.

    There isn't even a viable (cheap) pc option either. MAXSEA is good for plotting, but there is no depthsounder.

    One of these days some company will put it all together.
  • capeanglercapeangler Posts: 586 Officer
    Jason117 wrote: »
    1 thing I wish they would stop doing is bundling the screen size with the features of the unit.

    For example, anybody can buy a 20+ inch cheapo LCD for 100 bucks these days. It would be great if some of the lower end units, even my dinky elite 7, had a basic RCA video output. But you have to get into the 4k dollar raymarine stuff to get that.

    There isn't even a viable (cheap) pc option either. MAXSEA is good for plotting, but there is no depthsounder.

    One of these days some company will put it all together.

    You have that feature with the Ray Marine E-Series Units, enabling you to connect the unit via VGA to a 50" LED if you like. You can buy a new generation E97 for about $2,500 online. You can also buy a cheaper new Generation A65 ($680 or so online) and through blue tooth or wifi, connect it a tablet or laptop. Either way, it would for viewing only.

    A Laptop with a built in GPS and navigation software sitting on your helm (Enclosed wheel house) is a very viable alternative to a fixed mount chart plotter. IMO, I think it's better in the right boat. Then you can dump the money into a high end quality Furuno sounder.
  • perlman1234perlman1234 Posts: 1,449 Officer
    Jason117 wrote: »
    1 thing I wish they would stop doing is bundling the screen size with the features of the unit.

    For example, anybody can buy a 20+ inch cheapo LCD for 100 bucks these days. It would be great if some of the lower end units, even my dinky elite 7, had a basic RCA video output. But you have to get into the 4k dollar raymarine stuff to get that.

    There isn't even a viable (cheap) pc option either. MAXSEA is good for plotting, but there is no depthsounder.


    One of these days some company will put it all together.

    Yeah I am telling you that the e7d allows you to do pretty much whatever you want. Like i said before i just toss the unit on wifi and turn the new samsung tablet on... boom. full controls at the ready on a bigger screen. You get a ton of features in the unit and the quality is second to only furuno for bottom reading. It is not a huge leap between the two manufacturers either. In my opinion the only reason furuno is a little better is functionality. Both have incredible display and reading capabilities.
    capeangler wrote: »
    You have that feature with the Ray Marine E-Series Units, enabling you to connect the unit via VGA to a 50" LED if you like. You can buy a new generation E97 for about $2,500 online. You can also buy a cheaper new Generation A65 ($680 or so online) and through blue tooth or wifi, connect it a tablet or laptop. Either way, it would for viewing only.

    A Laptop with a built in GPS and navigation software sitting on your helm (Enclosed wheel house) is a very viable alternative to a fixed mount chart plotter. IMO, I think it's better in the right boat. Then you can dump the money into a high end quality Furuno sounder.


    I agree 100% with this. With an enclosed helm and a stable platform for laptop the quality of a gps device is rediculous. I have seen it twice on separate boats and the detail in those charts is amazing. Just have to make sure you have the correct power source for laptop.
    But you are right then you can just take the laptop and all your numbers are safe with you at all times. Plus you get to spend the money on a bad a** depth finder and ducer.
  • capeanglercapeangler Posts: 586 Officer
    Yeah I am telling you that the e7d allows you to do pretty much whatever you want. Like i said before i just toss the unit on wifi and turn the new samsung tablet on... boom. full controls at the ready on a bigger screen. You get a ton of features in the unit and the quality is second to only furuno for bottom reading. It is not a huge leap between the two manufacturers either. In my opinion the only reason furuno is a little better is functionality. Both have incredible display and reading capabilities.

    I agree 100% with this. With an enclosed helm and a stable platform for laptop the quality of a gps device is rediculous. I have seen it twice on separate boats and the detail in those charts is amazing. Just have to make sure you have the correct power source for laptop.
    But you are right then you can just take the laptop and all your numbers are safe with you at all times. Plus you get to spend the money on a bad a** depth finder and ducer.

    Yes, and with an air card, you can have pornhub or the game running while you are fishing

    Power source: No problem. $30 inverter from auto parts store or $400 marine inverter and you are good to go
  • capeanglercapeangler Posts: 586 Officer
    Dan,

    Here is the New Generation C97 in action. This was before I picked up another screen. The C97 is a 9.5” screen; manageable in split format. As said earlier in this post however, it’s not so much the screen size that’s a PIA in a split screen format. When constantly messing around with the functions of both the chartplotter and the sounder, it’s a royal PIA taking 2 extra steps to switch screens, making dual screens much easier.

    Perl: This number is out by you (West of around Clearwater)

    If you guys can read the coordinates; you can have it. It’s got nice Gags on it and Mangs. Don’t say I don’t give away good numbers

    http://youtu.be/9l5W_-0Mmms
  • Capt Dan MedinaCapt Dan Medina Posts: 691 Officer
    Link brings me to YouTube but no video?
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    Offshore Fishing Charters FT Myers, Sanibel, Captiva, Cape Coral
  • capeanglercapeangler Posts: 586 Officer
    Link brings me to YouTube but no video?

    sorry. fixed it. I think
  • perlman1234perlman1234 Posts: 1,449 Officer
    Cape with touchscreen its really simple. Simply touch the ledge or show you are passing at 30mph it saves waypoint. Go back and fish it.... however when I have touchlock on.... pain in the a**
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