Why do you need a newer version? Mine is from 2000 and works just fine.
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Need to buy a newer version. Ouch!! Had no idea how much it costs.:willynilly
Autocad has been a hose job for a long time. Since they have, oh, say, 90-percent of the market tied up in their "required" continuous upgrades, I don't see why the Sherman Anti-trust Act has not been brought down on them. They are definitely monopolistic.
Now with that said, if you are not doing solids modeling, then the 2D version is MUCH cheaper, but still expensive, about $1,200. Can you upgrade or is your version so old that AutoDesk will not even recognize the upgrade anymore?
I figure that putting the usury priced AutoDesk tools, ancillary plug-in programs and a competent machine in front of an employee is about $20K. I never upgrade until the client will not take the so-called "old" file format anymore.
Also, if you only need it for say one project, there is a 30-day free trial. You can export as a *.DXF file and print/use in an older version of AutoCad.
Also, you can rent now. Just pay as you go with 30-day licenses for when you need it.
Which ever one(s) of you little boys complained about quotes in the signature should be ashamed of yourself. :blowkiss
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I use 2006 with Land development desktop and don't think I will ever need anything better.
This. The problem is AutoCad does two things: a) they give the software to agencies (and then us private folks absorb the cost of all those free and steeply discounted seats) and b) they change output file format organization occasionally.
"B" above drive the purchase of a new version when government clients (SFWMD or other local governments) state in the contract, "Files will be provided in AutoCad 2014 format," for example.
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never heard of solid works, the people I send my surveys to want it in cadd. Sometime I have to save it back
to and older version but that's no big deal.
Polar, no wonder you hate AutoCad, you can't run it.
Bless his heart.
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when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
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well if you want to pay more but have better than it's microstation
if you want to do about the same for free there are many including google's sketchup (from trimble) and solid works
I've heard of it. It works. It is typically used by industries outside of the civil engineering and construction industries. AutoDesk has done such an incredible job marketing into said markets their tools are used nearly exclusively, outside of the transportation industry (who likes a Linux-based application.) Further, I think Griz needs to use something - stand alone - for a cabinet shop so solidworks may work for him.
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I got 2013LT for a grand less than a year ago. No 3D capabilities but fine for Arch/Construction 2d drawings
full blown 2013 was around 3k and 2013 Architectural was over 4k!
well if you want to pay more but have better than it's microstation
if you want to do about the same for free there are many including google's sketchup (from trimble) and solid works
Mcrostation is a beast! Definitely. Sketch up is not on par. Solidworks, maybe. Frank, I know you worked in the public sector for a long time did you REALLY know any office to use anything other than AutoDesk and ArcInfo, with the possible exception of Microstation-based Roadworks?
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My cousin just did a pretty cool project on his truck with that in College.
I thought so... I'm not clocky.. I'm sometimes sharky but never clocky.. sharky is always clocky and sometimes bnt.
followed closely by "you're choice"
there are free programs out there that will write out as dxfs
Ouch indeed.
I use 2013 on a daily basis.
IMHO, 2006 is still the best version.
Autocad has been a hose job for a long time. Since they have, oh, say, 90-percent of the market tied up in their "required" continuous upgrades, I don't see why the Sherman Anti-trust Act has not been brought down on them. They are definitely monopolistic.
Now with that said, if you are not doing solids modeling, then the 2D version is MUCH cheaper, but still expensive, about $1,200. Can you upgrade or is your version so old that AutoDesk will not even recognize the upgrade anymore?
I figure that putting the usury priced AutoDesk tools, ancillary plug-in programs and a competent machine in front of an employee is about $20K. I never upgrade until the client will not take the so-called "old" file format anymore.
Also, if you only need it for say one project, there is a 30-day free trial. You can export as a *.DXF file and print/use in an older version of AutoCad.
Also, you can rent now. Just pay as you go with 30-day licenses for when you need it.
Instead of complaining to the moderators you should just quit playing on this board.
This. The problem is AutoCad does two things: a) they give the software to agencies (and then us private folks absorb the cost of all those free and steeply discounted seats) and b) they change output file format organization occasionally.
"B" above drive the purchase of a new version when government clients (SFWMD or other local governments) state in the contract, "Files will be provided in AutoCad 2014 format," for example.
Instead of complaining to the moderators you should just quit playing on this board.
Instead of complaining to the moderators you should just quit playing on this board.
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to and older version but that's no big deal.
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can too
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Bless his heart.
when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
"“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
well if you want to pay more but have better than it's microstation
if you want to do about the same for free there are many including google's sketchup (from trimble) and solid works
I've heard of it. It works. It is typically used by industries outside of the civil engineering and construction industries. AutoDesk has done such an incredible job marketing into said markets their tools are used nearly exclusively, outside of the transportation industry (who likes a Linux-based application.) Further, I think Griz needs to use something - stand alone - for a cabinet shop so solidworks may work for him.
Instead of complaining to the moderators you should just quit playing on this board.
full blown 2013 was around 3k and 2013 Architectural was over 4k!
yea, solidworks is used by real engineers
Mcrostation is a beast! Definitely. Sketch up is not on par. Solidworks, maybe. Frank, I know you worked in the public sector for a long time did you REALLY know any office to use anything other than AutoDesk and ArcInfo, with the possible exception of Microstation-based Roadworks?
Instead of complaining to the moderators you should just quit playing on this board.