Nat-Light wrote: »
Education is big business these days. I don't think teachers are paid too much and in many instances are probably underpaid. I think the school systems need to get back to the basics...instead of paper, pencils and books, the kids now need laptops or tablets, chalk boards are being replaced by smart boards, etc. We are bringing all this "technology" into the classroom and yet I don't see the cost/benefit of it.
Nat-Light wrote: »
I think the school systems need to get back to the basics...instead of paper, pencils and books, the kids now need laptops or tablets, chalk boards are being replaced by smart boards, etc. We are bringing all this "technology" into the classroom and yet I don't see the cost/benefit of it.
illinoisfisherman wrote: »
There needs to be big changes in all municipal agencies including school systems. More technology should lead to more efficient school systems. It may be that internet home schooling is just around the corner. That is what is being discused up here. It is understood that it will not work for every student but the goal will be for less "brick & mortar" schools and less staff. It will work for many students. Many students have been asked their feelings and many love the idea. Changes have to be made..........in case no one noticed America is out of money. We can't continue by "borrowing on our credit cards".
Bigfoot wrote: »
Little Johnny still cannot read...
Tide-Dancer wrote: »
And yet he is passed up though the grades and pushed out into the world.
Now he votes for a living.
Familyfisher wrote: »
You want to know why we have so much technology in the classroom? Watch this video and tell me how we can teach this child in 3 years with only paper and pencil. The term is "digital native" and you're going to hear it more and more. They don't read books. They read digital media. When they're raised on smart phones and iPads, you can't expect them to be satisfied with a hard back text book with zero interaction factor. We have to keep up with them. It's a necessity.
I fully agree that many still cannot read and hit the streets. Thankfully I believe most of these are not getting out of highnschoolmwith a diploma though. Remember there is a difference between a diploma and a certificate of attendance.
Here's the video...
Final thought for the moment..... We are moving toward a BYOT (bring your own technology) mind set and actually allowing students to use their smart phones some in class rather than saying they are completely disallowed and trying to confiscate them if they're seen. Already, discipline referrals related to cell phones have dropped by 75 % this year.
Familyfisher wrote: »
You're just before stepping across a line Max. I haven't had a new vehicle in 6 years. Vehicles I do buy are most often used. 2 NEW vehicles purchasedin 35 years. I think it is YOU that have no idea what you're talking about as the pay scale of educators. We are talking about teachers.... not board members or other politicians. Until you spend a few months in a classroom, don't think you begin to think educational professionals are over paid. I mean in charge of 30 different children whose parents are going to come at you with everything they have when you "mistreat" their child by telling them they need to behave. when you "fail them" by giving them the grades they earn.
GANDER wrote: »
I would be curious to know what is so "scary" about public schools in your area? Is it the ethnic, religious, or socioeconomic diversity of students? I know there are Catholic schools that are very diverse, but some that are very exclusive. Or is it my aforementioned lack of parental involvement in a large share of students' lives that makes those public schools scary places?
I graduated from a small Catholic high school (18 in my graduating class!). Most of us were (1980s) working middle class kids and a very few wealthy ones. We were told that we were "better than the public school kids" because we went to the Catholic school. The sad thing was that our teachers were not the nuns of the grade school (and I had only 3 of those through the years), but lay teachers who were NOT hired by public schools. We had a couple outstanding teachers over the years (until they finally got a public school job), but a large number of very poor ones as well. Our facilities were inadequate to say the least, but what mattered was the involvement of our parents that made that school go, and drove us to make the most of the opportunity we were given.
Our public school has interacted with both a league Catholic HS and local elementary/middle school. It was eye-opening to see the same behavior in their parents and administration over the years as what I had in my upbringing. The separatist and elitist nature of the schools runs counter to the stated purpose of their faith-based education. The overall quality of their students is much more dependent on the quality of the parenting than on the school staff. They may point to the successful HS students that come from their grads, but there are plenty of other kids that don't make their "A list".
Some parents expect the school to be their surrogate and take care of their responsibilities. The thing many of them refuse to realize is that we we have contact with their students for anywhere from 50 minutes (middle and HS) to 7 hours (elementary) a day--along with a group of 15 to 30+ other kids with various needs. parents and the environment they shape for their children have a great impact on the student's readiness to learn. They have expectations that we are very likely incapable of living up to if they don't do THEIR JOB! For the best chance of success, students need to arrive at school with a positive attitude toward learning, well-rested, well-fed and knowing that they are loved and respected. We have a difficult time doing our job in that time frame if they are distracted by situations at home, tired, hungry, harassed or feeling that what they do there doesn't matter!
Most teachers look at themselves as part of a team--all the school personnel from bus drivers to admin to teachers to cafeteria folks, parent and students--all playing a role in providing the student with the opportunity to achieve an education. But the student must seize that opportunity and make something of it!
If the current trend in education "reform" is to carve out student populations from the public schools and place them in charters, parochial schools or on-line learning environments, we will continue to force separation in our society among those "that belong" and those "that are different". That doesn't sound like a country that will be capable of working together and solving its problems.
Stonewall wrote: »
Scary to me is sub par education lack of individual responsibility lack of discipline lack of morals and I just don't want the government educating my children. My son played in a basketball game at a local government school (notice I say government not public) a couple of weekends ago and walking into the gym there was a bulletin board that looked like a shrine to the Obamas. It made me sick!
Your last paragraph hints at another thing that I think is big in government schools and that is fairness. I'm just about sure we all know that life is not fair so why do government schools put such an emphasis on fairness? Is it so little Johnny or Susie doesn't get their feelings hurt. If so these kids are being set up for failure. We are all different and life is not fair. Down here in Ga. the kids in government schools are required to bring in their schools supplies then put them in a pool to be handed out by the teacher. WHAT? Oh and I'm also don't want the government telling me what is going to be in my kids lunch.
I know y'all have a very tough job and I commend you for what you do. I know a lot of parents treat schools as daycare and not learning institutions and that makes your job even tougher. One of my best friends has two kids about the same age as mine and they have been sick about five times this year. I said man y'all are having a rough year and he said no its all these [email protected]&n parents that don't give a crap about anyone but themselves and send their kids to school sick.
I do not raise my kids to think they are elite and if they were to ever act that way I will be here to knock them down a few notches.
Oh and one more thing that scares me about government schools around here. Recently there was an attempted **** at a middle school.
I don't think government education no I know government education is not going to help solve this countries problems, he!! the government has caused most of our socioeconomic problems.