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I didn't know where to post this, here, boating, or the black hole but I figured this was news many of us should know.

AAA urges EPA to halt approval of E15 for vehicles

By David Shepardson
Detroit News Washington Bureau

Washington — AAA, the nation's largest travel organization, on Friday urged the Obama administration to halt the sale of E15 — a new fuel with a higher blend of ethanol — because of possible engine damage to most vehicles on the nation's roads.

AAA, which has 53 million members, said it has found in a new survey a strong likelihood of consumer confusion and the potential for voided warranties and vehicle damage as a result of the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) recent approval of E15 gasoline for 2001 model vehicles and newer.

All vehicles on the road can travel on E10 — which is 10 percent ethanol. Corn advocates successfully petitioned the EPA to approve E15, which is 15 percent ethanol, for vehicles since 2001. But the fuel is only being sold at a handful of stations.

Nearly all — or 95 percent — of people surveyed have not heard of E15, AAA said.

With little consumer understanding of E15 and less than five percent of cars on the road approved by automakers to use the fuel, "AAA is urging regulators and the industry to stop the sale of E15 until motorists are better protected."

AAA said just 12 million out of the more than 240 million light-duty vehicles on the roads today are approved by manufacturers to use E15 gasoline, based on a survey conducted by AAA of auto manufacturers.

General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co. have approved the use of the fuel for new model vehicles only. Chrysler Group LLC said this week it still doesn't approve the use of E15 for any of its vehicles.

"It is clear that millions of Americans are unfamiliar with E15, which means there is a strong possibility that many motorists may improperly fill up using this gasoline and damage their vehicle," said AAA President and CEO Robert Darbelnet. "Bringing E15 to the market without adequate safeguards does not responsibly meet the needs of consumers."

AAA said five manufacturers (BMW, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota and Volkswagen) are on record saying their warranties will not cover fuel-related claims caused by the use of E15. Seven additional automakers (Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz and Volvo) said E15 does not comply with the fuel requirements specified in their owner's manuals and may void warranty coverage, AAA said.

Vehicles currently approved by automakers to use E15 are flex-fuel models — those that can run on E85 — and 2001 model-year and newer Porsches, 2012 model-year and newer GM vehicles and 2013 model-year Ford vehicles.

EPA has prohibited the use of E15 in heavy-duty vehicles, boats, motorcycles, power equipment, lawn mowers and off-road vehicles.

"The sale and use of E15 should be suspended until additional gas pump labeling and consumer education efforts are implemented to mitigate problems for motorists and their vehicles," Darbelnet said.

More than 95 percent of the gasoline sold in the United States contains up to 10 percent ethanol — and since E15 was approved, just 10 stations are selling it nationwide.

All major automakers, including Detroit's Big Three, unsuccessfully filed suit in December 2010 in the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington to block a federal plan to allow fuel stations to start selling E15, warning it could corrode engines. Boat manufacturers and lawn equipment makers joined automakers in the lawsuit.

The U.S. House voted last year to block E15, but the Senate never took up the measure.

Automakers and many other groups urged Congress to act to bar the increase, including: the American Bakers Association; American Meat Institute; American Petroleum Institute; National Petrochemical & Refiners Association; National Turkey Federation; Outdoor Power Equipment Institute; and Specialty Equipment Market Association

"Simply stated, this amendment will call a halt to EPA's headlong rush to introduce E15 at least until unbiased and independent testing on the impact of E15 on vehicle and the environment can be completed," the groups said.

Automakers have expressed concerns about using a higher percentage of the ethanol blend that could corrode engines.

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From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121130/AUTO01/211300415#ixzz2DjrkOVFh
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  • johnnybjohnnyb Posts: 985 Officer
    cpr wrote: »
    Corn advocates successfully petitioned the EPA to approve E15, which is 15 percent ethanol, for vehicles since 2001.

    Why do they have influence on what gasoline we are forced to use? Ethanol is not environmentally friendly and **** sure not efficient.

    Oh yeah, lobbyists. :rolleyes
    Acceptance of any type of behavior effectively reinforces that behavior.
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  • Split ShotSplit Shot Posts: 6,193 Admiral
    They should run cars off of T bone steaks.
  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    johnnyb wrote: »
    Why do they have influence on what gasoline we are forced to use? Ethanol is not environmentally friendly and **** sure not efficient.

    Oh yeah, lobbyists. :rolleyes
    people like cyclist.
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    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
  • 9-Lives9-Lives Posts: 2,124 Captain
    cpr wrote: »
    I didn't know where to post this, here, boating, or the black hole but I figured this was news many of us should know.


    Here is perfect considering it's already posted in Boating :wink
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  • PotholePothole Posts: 1,373 Officer
    CaptTater wrote: »
    idiots like cyclist.
    Sent from my Venue Pro using Board Express

    FIFY
  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    See, that's the difference between you and I. I can accept peoples different opinions and beliefs as just as valid as mine without resorting to pointing out their character flaws. You know like the fresh out of college kids with poor incomes demanding that high wage earners pay for their lack of understanding of entry level positions. And people like cyclist defending the environment for the benefit of us all.


    Sent from my Venue Pro using Board Express
    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
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