Kickstarter

fishon

Explain this to me? So someone has a successful product tells the world, gets backing thru kickstarter. What keeps the chinless/Walmart from turning it into their next big retail item?
Just wandering?

greggl

Depends on the item and IP really.

Kickstarter could be a platform to launch a product that ends up on Walmart shelves.

Blue Chip

fishon wrote: »

Explain this to me? So someone has a successful product tells the world, gets backing thru kickstarter. What keeps the chinless/Walmart from turning it into their next big retail item?
Just wandering?

Nothing other than if you have US patents on the product. If it does end up on Walmart shelves and you have a good patent attorney and lots of money to take on Wally worlds attorney you may win.

Cyclist

local restaurant used it after a bad uninsured fire

wallmart food sucks

smallboat

Because most Kickstarter projects are items that would never be made or carried by Walmart to begin with.

Ol Mucky

Blue Chip wrote: »

Nothing other than if you have US patents on the product..

Thats when you lose out.
Once you submit (patent pending) the chinese have a whole crew of govt agents that scour the patent office for the next great thing to steal and produce.
WHile your still trying to do all that legally, they already beat you to production.


Something like that.

drkptt

Ol Mucky wrote: »

Thats when you lose out.
Once you submit (patent pending) the chinese have a whole crew of govt agents that scour the patent office for the next great thing to steal and produce.
WHile your still trying to do all that legally, they already beat you to production.


Something like that.

Patent applications are not publicly disclosed until/unless patent is granted.

China may violate US patents to sell stuff in their domestic market but can't get away with that in the US any more than a US manufacturer could.

Ol Mucky

drkptt wrote: »

Patent applications are not publicly disclosed until/unless patent is granted.

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Not true

Patent pending is to actually inform the public that the product has a patent applied for. And the application is made public 18mos after submission



And they do get away with selling their crap in the US.
Perhaps they may not sell directly sell to a US manufacturer, but their "bootlegged" items somehow seem to make it here

I saw a show or listened to an interview on it recently. Submission and following the law, trying to protect your item etc...........really puts the person/company behind the ol 8 ball with those chinese

Fish Haid

Ol Mucky wrote: »

Not true

the application is made public 18mos after submission

Or sooner (or later).

I never heard of Kickstarter.

greggl

Crowd equity funding is on the way as well.

drkptt

Ol Mucky wrote: »

Not true

Patent pending is to actually inform the public that the product has a patent applied for. And the application is made public 18mos after submission

And they do get away with selling their crap in the US.
Perhaps they may not sell directly sell to a US manufacturer, but their "bootlegged" items somehow seem to make it here

I saw a show or listened to an interview on it recently. Submission and following the law, trying to protect your item etc...........really puts the person/company behind the ol 8 ball with those chinese

You are correct about the 18 months, unless the application is no longer active or you request that it not be published. So let me fix your earlier post:

Ol Mucky wrote: »

Thats when you lose out.
18 months after you submit (patent pending) the chinese have a whole crew of govt agents that scour the patent office for the next great thing to steal and produce.
WHile your still trying to do all that legally, they already beat you to production.
..

So you've got a year-and-a-half head start to market and once granted the patent you can go after any infringers (no matter what country they're from). How is that worse than not pursuing IP protection?

greggl

Kickstarter is as much a platform for launching a brand as it is individual product.