Vegas Beatdown....by police

Floyd

When there are pictures, we win.
Another sadist hit the bricks.
http://www.lvrj.com/news/police-inquiry-reveals-violations-in-arrest-beating-of-videographer-126438953.html

If you were one of this guys neighbors and heard this would you come to his aid, or stay inside?

Bite N Hold

Hmmmm seems like this guy is a terrible actor looking to get publicity. Also handled wrong by the officer. Two wrongs......

Phishbohn

If the police are handling him, you'd risk getting handled too if you go out there. Happens all the time. I wonder though, don't most departments these days have video on the cars anyway?

badbullgator

The cop has killed two people in his career. Not questioning if either were justified, but that seems odd. I would assume that most cops make their entire career without killing anyone. Seems that from what is seen in this video he is a little quick to take action, a shoot first ask questions later kind of guy.

Triplewrap

There are a number of people who make a good living out of this exact stunt. They call in some kind of crime and then set up with their video cameras. They are professional punching bags, and sometimes find dumb cops to oblige them. Most are a protected class, so the awards have a x2 multiplier..

A smart cops tells them to turn off the audio recording... The video is legal.. unauthorized voice recording is the violation. The very basic skill of an LEO is maintaining one's composure in all circumstances. LVPD will write this fajjet a nice check.
TW

badbullgator

Triplewrap wrote: »

There are a number of people who make a good living out of this exact stunt. They call in some kind of crime and then set up with their video cameras. They are professional punching bags, and sometimes find dumb cops to oblige them. Most are a protected class, so the awards have a x2 multiplier..

A smart cops tells them to turn off the audio recording... The video is legal.. unauthorized voice recording is the violation. The very basic skill of an LEO is maintaining one's composure in all circumstances. LVPD will write this fajjet a nice check.
TW

Help me out with this, not saying you are right or wrong, but taking a video in a public place or even private property, I am not so sure audio is not legal. I agree there are times when recording what someone is saying, like on the phone, is illegal but show me where you come by when taking a video in public the accompanying audio is illegal. I really don't know, but that doesn't seem to make sense. I have seen hundreds of videos like this one with audio and never seen a word about the audio not being legal. Using that logic it would be almost imposable to video anything without having permission from anyone who might be recorded on audio.

I do agree that this guy is probably and "ambulance chaser" in that he tries to get into these situations. That said the cop should not have taken his bait and just let him go about his business instead of beating him up and arresting him (can't really argue that according to the outcome finding the cop at fault).



the ACLU disagreed.

"It's not that recording any conversation is illegal without consent. It's that recording a private conversation is illegal without consent," he said. "So then the question is, 'Are the words of a police officer spoken on duty, in uniform, in public a 'private conversation.' And every court that has ever considered that question has said that they are not."

Triplewrap

You are correct: Video and audio in public places are OK.. No expectation of privacy with an obvious video camera or garish signs posted. The phone calls and private discussions are not so clear, and are protected. My point was that the decoy would call in a **** or Child Abuse, which are confidential investigations, and parade the camera to draw-in the LEO. It is a living for some bottom feeders.

It is not a new trick, and the giveaway verbiage should have tipped off this Cop.. 'I am perfectly within my rights to videotape this area..' ( A-HA, Copernicus !! Methinks this dude might be fishing for a lawsuit...) But No. The Cop bit the hook and took this crybaby down. Now he gets dragged in the dirt for 2 years. Stupid. There are several variations to this theme: A chase van with video for traffic stops on the decoy; a parked car with camera, and decoy on the sidewalk shooting birds at passing cops..

It's a different kind of fishing.

When we smelled these guys, we would try to identify them, get their tag numbers, then drive off. They really carry on when the LEO walks away from them. Then, they become another intelligence bulletin.

GA Fin

Why aren't the cops being arrested for assault, ect?

Triplewrap

They do; Like the Rodney King trials.? This case may not cross the line into criminal assault, but will certainly wind up in civil litigation.

Reaper

Gotta fire the **** cop. this isn't **** Germany or Russia.

cadman

Maybe I am looking at the wrong video. All I see is a cop approaches the guy after he said he did not live there, then try to claim he did. Then a bunch of stuff happens off camera with the guy screaming like a bad actor. Where is the beat down that was supposed to be on film?

Eggsuckindog

The guy is across the street, no reason to approach him in the first place, not sure why he said Nope to begin with but its easily verified. Some people just not cut out to LEO's just that simple, and he is obviously not one that is. Audio in an open public area, except it was his property so not that public can not be against the law - it might be but not the constitution in any case.

cadman

How do you know there was no reason? Do you know why the cops were there in the first place? Maybe a break in in the neighborhood? Suspicious guy with a camera peeking in windows?

It seems everyone is making a decision based on a video that is nothing but a guy over acting.

I know the investigation shows there were policy violations, so the cop did some things wrong. But from what I heard on the video, I agree with Triplewrap, the guy was just looking to bait a cop. Too bad the cop fell for it.