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OK, I replaced those ignition parts in my '89 F250

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  • Mango ManMango Man Posts: 13,570 AG
    Ya know Lusa, this thread reminds me of Polar at Gary's bash trying to jump start his Jeep. :rotflmao

    I hope you get ir figured out, but if you suffer some calamity can I have your boat? I love that little lady. :grin


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  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    Can someone go help Calusa please? I have the ability to remote control a computer(or even a mac) but not Calusas.
    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
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  • CalusaCalusa Posts: 11,874 AG
    CaptTater wrote: »
    Hook the + of the troller to the one little bolt and the - on the troller to the - on the battery. It should NOT run until the key is turned like you are cranking it. If it then does NOT then you have a problem the key switch or similar and NOT the relay/solenoid.

    Doing the above the troller would not crank regardless where the key position was, either full start, on or off.
  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    then you aren't getting power to the relay/solenoid. Now you have to figure out why. Shift switch or key switch or more. I dunno if that part of a Ford is all computerized or not.
    Did you do the computer reset like I suggested?
    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
  • CalusaCalusa Posts: 11,874 AG
    No, I didn't. But I will. Disconnect the negative battery terminal for how long?
  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    Usually a few minutes but I suspect an '89 doesn't have any computer involvement in the starting process if it has one at all. That's a pretty new "feature".

    Being an '89 I would suspect it's just a key switch and the shift switch and nothing else between. Maybe a fuse?
    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
  • CalusaCalusa Posts: 11,874 AG
    Yeah, the computer reset didn't do any good. The fuse in the fuse box under the dash?
  • MadpoodleMadpoodle Posts: 761 Officer
    Calusa, tighten out, buy a test light. Ground the light, touch the smal terminal and have somene turn the key. If it shows power but doesnt crank, check the starter side of the relay. If it shows power but doesnt crank, check the starter end of the cable from the relay. If themrelay is not getting power to the small,terminal, wiggle the shifter, try again. Put it in neutral if need be, try again after that let us know..

    Best 5 bucks you will ever spend...
    Water rat


  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG
    It is easy to do, did you pull the ignition switch yet? When mine failed it did take a few weeks of it starting then not starting too finally find out that part of the ignition switch was breaking off.
    gandrfab wrote: »
    My 1990 f250 had an ignition switch break.
    That's an easy check you should have a pin hole on the steering column.
    Push that in and turn the key it should pop right out.
    This not it but in this pic the tab that is on top is what broke off on mine, that was lots of fun too get out.
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  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    Is this truck ever gonna run?
  • King_MeKing_Me Posts: 7,101 Admiral
    Madpoodle wrote: »
    Calusa, tighten out, buy a test light. Ground the light, touch the smal terminal and have somene turn the key. If it shows power but doesnt crank, check the starter side of the relay. If it shows power but doesnt crank, check the starter end of the cable from the relay. If themrelay is not getting power to the small,terminal, wiggle the shifter, try again. Put it in neutral if need be, try again after that let us know..

    Best 5 bucks you will ever spend...

    They're on sale at Harbor Freight right now for $3.99!!

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    http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/diagnostics/circuit-tester-30779.html
  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    He can't get there because he can't start his truck without a trolling motor. I guess he could order one or catch the old people transport bus that comes through the Dell Webb community. Maybe for $5 they will swing you to a parts or hardware store.
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    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
  • FloydFloyd Posts: 1,139 Officer
    For a dollar more you can get a multi-meter.
    http://www.harborfreight.com/7-function-multimeter-98025.html

    Though that requires the use of both hands and may be too complex for someone who apparently has never done any DIY work.

    Using a trolling motor that is a high-current item as a test light may overload a low-current circuit and cause other problems.

    You can use google or youtube to find a large number of articles, diagrams, and video's that will help you a lot better than the incomplete disjointed comments on this thread that aren't well-suited for a logical sequential diagnotic test.
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  • acarbacarb Posts: 2,357 Captain
    Here is a schematic of your starter wiring
    12 volts at the solonoid when key is in start? if yes , bad solonoid, if no
    check red and light blue into and out of the nuetral switch
    if u have 12 at the nuetral switch then bad switch if no voltage then u have a bad ign switch
  • acarbacarb Posts: 2,357 Captain
    Get a durn test light
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    use your finger
  • King_MeKing_Me Posts: 7,101 Admiral
    Calusa wrote: »
    Ok ****. I tested the solenoid using my 12v trolling motor. I touched both bolts, the big ones, and Mrs. Calusa tried to start the truck. The prop turned with the key/start.

    This has "Redneck" written all over it.

    :rotflmao
  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG
    Polar wrote: »
    use your finger
    No lick it like a 9V battery.
  • acarbacarb Posts: 2,357 Captain
    Calusa wrote: »
    Ok ****. I tested the solenoid using my 12v trolling motor. I touched both bolts, the big ones, and Mrs. Calusa tried to start the truck. The prop turned with the key/start.

    I missed this one. Sounds like the starter is stuck
    Using the internationally known starter test,you will need......... a hammer.
    Apply hammer using the tap tap taparoo method while better half turns the ign key to start.
  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    Floyd wrote: »
    For a dollar more you can get a multi-meter.
    http://www.harborfreight.com/7-function-multimeter-98025.html

    Though that requires the use of both hands and may be too complex for someone who apparently has never done any DIY work.

    Using a trolling motor that is a high-current item as a test light may overload a low-current circuit and cause other problems.

    You can use google or youtube to find a large number of articles, diagrams, and video's that will help you a lot better than the incomplete disjointed comments on this thread that aren't well-suited for a logical sequential diagnotic test.
    he's using a trolling motor as test light and you are suggesting he buy a multimeter instead of a test light? Are you crazyn
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    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
  • johnnybjohnnyb Posts: 985 Officer
    acarb wrote: »
    Using the internationally known FORD starter test,you will need......... a hammer.
    Apply hammer using the tap tap taparoo method while better half turns the ign key to start.

    FIFY

    For every Ford I ever owned, a hammer behind the seat was more important than jumper cables.
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  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG
    As a kid I remember my mom using one of her high heals to tap the starter on a Chevy malibu.
  • PolarPolar Posts: 22,492 AG
    I stuck a penny in the seatbelt of my moms 77 Pontiac Bonneville and couldnt get out, she left me in the car for and hour and called me stupid. My dad came home and cut it with scissors, and they both took turns beating me
  • CalusaCalusa Posts: 11,874 AG
    I'm starting to feel stooooopid.
  • gandrfabgandrfab Posts: 21,646 AG
    Did I say I hate electrical trouble shooting?

    That is why, but I still do it my self most of the time.:banghead
  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    Calusa wrote: »
    I'm starting to feel stooooopid.
    delayed reaction.
    Sent from my Venue Pro using Board Express
    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
  • CalusaCalusa Posts: 11,874 AG
    I think I'm just gonna let her sit until Saturday when I have daylight to work with. I'll try the hammer tap on the starter tonight after work.

    I'll keep you posted as I progress through the diagnostics. :hairraiser
  • JaxNoleJaxNole Posts: 1,705 Captain
    This thread :rotflmao
  • BobDBobD Posts: 1,969 Captain
    I had to do the hammer tap on my last F150. Be careful while you are under the truck with your wife starting it.
    Build your dream or someone will hire you to build theirs.
  • CaptTaterCaptTater Posts: 20,096 AG
    You can hammer on anything you want but if that relay doesn't click when you turn the key the only thing you will be doing is knocking magnets off the starter.
    Sent from my Venue Pro using Board Express
    I did not read the story but if you take tax payers money maybe you should be held to some standards.-Cyclist
    when we say the same thing about welfare recipients, you cry like a wounded buffalo Sopchoppy
    It's their money, they spend it how they like. Truth and honesty have nothing to do with it. - Mr Jr
    "“A radical is one who advocates sweeping changes in the existing laws and methods of government.” "
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