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Hoyt79 wrote: »
That first pic doesn't look like a whitetail to me. Looks to have a black stripe on it's belly between the brown and white and it's tail is short and black...
huntmstr wrote: »
Absolutely right. That black stripe and the short black tipped tail looks to me like a chinkara gazelle or a blackbuck doe. Both are found in the same home range as the Burmese python and share the characteristic markings of the animal in that picture.
That's not to say that there isn't a problem with these invasive species. It's just that I don't like it when anyone uses a picture as evidence without checking to make sure the photo used is valid or authentic. In this case, it's pretty clear that the deer pictured is definitely not a whitetail.
SLW210 wrote: »
It has to be true, it is posted on the internet. Just ask the dumb blonde in the State Farm commercial.
Oh yeah, ALL CAPS AND BOLD TYPE, must be a fact.
SWFL Hunter, put down the pipe.
The snake that was cut open, the deer was already dead when the snake ate it.
relicshunter wrote: »
WOW! what a bunch of misinformation. That top picture with the deer clearly visible does look like some other type of deer. Why was this one not posted with the original pics? Had to find it somewhere on the internet? I can name a lot of things off on the pic.
Are you an animal rights person or just a reptile phobia person? Cat will drop the deer population much, much faster then a python because that one meal will last the snake months and months. Being cold blooded means a lot less meals and much more likely to die from temps below 40. I can find tons of pictures of frozen and dying pythons on the internet to prove there weakness to temps. Any pythons found in Tampa or Space coast are not going to make it through the winters we have been having. The sick propaganda that these snakes will keep moving up the state is just a bunny huggers dream to stop pet ownership. Once we lose pet rights guess what's next HUNTING rights.
sknight88 wrote: »
You are so sadly misinformed and clearly on a agenda its not even funny. Singlelung cold blooded reptiles, whichthey are, never ever survive in the cold. They will NEVER populate the lower third or even all of Fl. They are not there in any shape or form in the numbers the TV shows want you to belive. I know people who hunt them, several times a month, and struggle to find a 3 foot snake. Also, lets not forget they live in other areas, that have populations of small animals right? A big snake eating a deer, would need months to digest it. dont buy into the TV driven drama.
flydown wrote: »
Complete with equal doses of paranoia and cyber screaming in really big font!
SWFL Hunter wrote: »
I do have an agenda, it is to ensure that my children can enjoy the same woods I enjoy. My agenda is to ensure that our government is using all of their resources to ensure that the swamps I enjoy will still be the same in 20 years, 40 years, 60 years. I have an agenda, I most certainly do, I want to have access to all of OUR PUBLIC LAND. I certainly hope you have the same agenda. As for being cold blooded reptiles, so are gators and every single one of our native snakes. I used to live in Miami and worked for a biologist for a short period in Homestead. We would get on those farm fields by the park line after they ran the disc through them and we would find more then you could imagine. They were dead and cut in pieces, they weren't big, but they were there none the less. It is not just the deer, although I am concerned about the deer, it is everything else. The birds, small mammals and native reptiles, when you start removing those other species you begin to destroy the ecosystem. I agree there is a dramatization factor for TV and special interests, but the reality is they are there, have been for over a decade, probably closer to two. And for the most part they are doing very little about it. They said Maleluca and Brazilian peppers wouldnt go north either. Everytime I drive I75 I notice they are moving further north.
huntmstr wrote: »
Play nice gentlemen. SWFL Hunter is entitled to his opinion as much as the rest of you. Either respect each other's opinions or I'll start enforcing some sanctions around here. That is all.
James R. Schlesinger wrote:
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
JohnnyBandit wrote: »
Anyone that boldly says pythons cannot possibly migrate as far North as the Carolinas, has not taken the time to look at the facts. The "studies" in which they put snakes in an enclosure do not tell the real story. The snakes are not free to find the most suitable places to over winter.
If you look at the natural range of Burmese, they live in a wide variety of environments. From near desert, to tropical rain forests to temperate regions. The species is VERY adaptable and can tolorate an assortment of climates. There are populations of Burmese in the foothills of the Himalayas.
There is also a healthy native population in the Sichuan Pendi region of China. The average Temperature in January is 42.26 F. For comparison the average January Temp of Charlotte NC is 41.7 F.
There is NOTHING to indicate they could not survive into the Carolinas at least. And there is factual data that the species is surviving and thriving in other regions with very similar climates.
As the species moves North there will be die offs during times of cold weather. But some snakes will survive. And the offspring of those survivors will have an even greater chance of survival.The species is very hardy and adaptable.
monkeybusinessjr wrote: »
Some of you guys can't go a day without fearing of some new boogeyman be it snakes, panthers, coyotes, wild hogs, bears, government men in black helicopters, werewolves, etc. How do you ever work up the courage to leave the house?
SWFL Hunter wrote: »
This is happening everyday in Everglades National Park and the Big Cypress National Preserve. Small mammal populations are down 99%, deer populations are down 94%. The federal government is doing next to nothing to end it. These snakes are expected to inhabit the entire peninsula of Florida in the next few years. And then the entire southern third of the continental United States by 2016. Here they are with the opportunity to stop them before they leave Florida, and they aren't.Hunters can't hunt in ENP, all the mammals and birds will be gone, but hunters are not allowed.
They kicked people out of ENP and this happened. Now they are working on kicking people out BCNP, I wonder what will happen next?
SWFL Hunter wrote: »
Fiction, sir, is the green hulk you use for your avatar. If you would spend less time reading comic books, the distinction between fact and fiction might be easier for you.
An opinion would be for example, you are a pompous ignoramus.
The photograph is FACT, it is actually happening, the second picture is in FACT a picture of a snake caught in the BCNP with a deer it ate. The first picture is a picture of a big snake eating some kind of deer. Nobody ever said that picture was taken in FL. The statement I made was simply, this happens in the ENP AND BCNP. You can think whatever you like, it is still the USA, and Mitt Romney is our next president.fact Noun: A thing that is indisputably the case.
Did the cold weather affect the conditional reptile population?
The cold snap in January and February 2010 dramatically reduced the numbers of Burmese pythons in the wild. Based on observations and reports from python removal permit holders, biologists and hunters, the FWC believes 30-50 percent of the wild Burmese python population died as a result of the record cold weather. The FWC believes seasonal kills are beneficial in helping to control nonnative reptile populations.
SWFL Hunter wrote: »
The statistics were provided by NPS employees in an interview and documentary filmed with Dan Rather. The link for a section of the documentary is above, I do not know how to put the entire thing on here from my TV. The documentary was on TV last week, and those statistics were provided by an NPS EMPLOYEE. THE NPS EMPLOYEE CLEARLY STATES THOSE SCIENTIFICALLY OBTAINED FACTS ON THE DOCUMENTARY, I relayed that information to the people on this forum.
And I implied nothing, I simply stated that Snakes are eating deer in ENP and BCNP everyday. You inferred, again, you must use a dictionary when using the English language. You have a hard time distinguishing the meaning of words.
People like you are the REAL THREAT!
Why? Because I am the average hunter trying to share information with like minded people. I am trying to inform people of what is happening with THEIR land. I am sharing information that most people didn't have an opportunity to see for themselves. And if you are SO ALARMED by these numbers, instead of bashing me, you should be figuring out what you can do for OUR land. Figure out what you can do to keep that same problem from getting to South Central Florida and beyond.
Instead you have fit the mold of a POMPOUS IGNORAMUS.
If you think those numbers are crazy, just wait till they inhabit your neck of the woods.
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