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Salty GatorSalty Gator Posts: 1,831 Captain
I did a consulting job for a lawyer about a year ago and never got paid. Calling and sending invoices has not yielded anything. I have no experience with bill collection. What are my options?
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  • WaterEngineerWaterEngineer Posts: 24,412 AG
    You trying to collect from the attorney or from the attorney's client, an insurance company, perhaps?
  • rrbgttrrbgtt Posts: 6,758 Admiral
    Lesson learned. Move on.
    From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Ye damned bobcat!
  • hooknlinehooknline Posts: 5,523 Admiral
    Just slap a lien on the lawyers primary residence. Then take him to small
    Claims court. Tie up his time because thats money to him. And cheap for you. Depending on your bill it's cheaper for him to pay you than to go to court On his dime
  • amighoamigho Posts: 776 Officer
    You may want to hire an attorney.
    :fishing:USA
  • yak_angleryak_angler Posts: 2,585 Captain
    how much money are you talking about?
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  • Salty GatorSalty Gator Posts: 1,831 Captain
    The work was for the attorney on behalf of his client. The case got settled shortly after and he got paid but never paid my bill. It's about 3k. It was an expensive lesson for sure but I'm not willing to let it be that expensive.
  • JimmytalkJimmytalk Posts: 587 Officer
    Im shocked...a sleezy atty?! Say it aint so!
  • PopeyePopeye Posts: 14,291 AG
    You should have got a few things in writing.
    Next time have a lawyer look after another lawyer.
    Thats one bit of advice a lawyer will NEVER give you.

    Free from Popeye!

    Your forum friend!
  • DudeDude Posts: 1,780 Captain
    Lawyers are often a slow pay. Don't be quiet about it! Document every contact and send your invoice by every means. Fax, email, snail mail and hand delivery. Follow up with a phone call.
    DUDE!
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  • MedcinMnMedcinMn Posts: 135 Officer
    Attorneys blow. I took one to small claims court about 10 years ago. Interestingly, his specialty was debt collection! Of course he lost, then wanted to settle for half of what he owed. I told him the money didn't matter, I would just leave the judgement against him in place forever. He ended up paying but is/was a complete scumbag.
  • SJCSJC Posts: 2,572 Captain
    Don't let it go and don't settle for less than what your owed. He wouldn't.
    The Beatings will continue until moral improves!
  • Team SabatageTeam Sabatage Posts: 13,014 AG
    You have a written contract, right? One that spells out fees, condition of payment, schedule of payment?

    The one I use for my contracting service has an intrest clause of 24% annually. Like a pawn shop.
    Strap me in, tie me down and roll me a bone, I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying home...
  • Salty GatorSalty Gator Posts: 1,831 Captain
    No written contract with his signature. However, I did submit a fee schedule and he paid the appropriate fee. The work then continued with more time and he ows me for the later work.

    In retrospect, it was foolish to not get most or all of the payment prior to submission of the final work product but I've never had anyone duck a bill before. Small claims court may be the way to go.
  • BnTBnT Posts: 6,642 Admiral
    Where did my post go?

    If you need this settled i can have your money to you in 48 hours...
    "Give a man a fish and feed him for a day... Don’t teach a man to fish…and feed yourself. He’s a grown man. And fishing’s not that hard"
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  • PopeyePopeye Posts: 14,291 AG
    BnT wrote: »
    Where did my post go?

    If you need this settled i can have your money to you in 48 hours...

    Hmmmm?
  • Old FloridaOld Florida Posts: 176 Officer
    Got to love attorneys.
    They want 300 dollars to make a phone call and write a memo, but they will fight like crazy to pay anyone else 10 bucks for busting their butt.
    I heard you can look up their home address through the online clerk of the court database looking for mortgage records.
    Just for educational purposes of course.
  • jad1097jad1097 Posts: 9,611 Admiral
    BnT wrote: »
    Where did my post go?

    If you need this settled i can have your money to you in 48 hours...
    Sandy reported you. I still think a baseball bat is the best way to resolve this. Be sure to have an alternative method in a holster.
  • Team SabatageTeam Sabatage Posts: 13,014 AG
    Be sure to take the loss on your taxes.

    That's about all your going to get.
    Strap me in, tie me down and roll me a bone, I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying home...
  • WaterEngineerWaterEngineer Posts: 24,412 AG
    I have done a lot of work for attorneys. The will never sign a contract they believe they are above that sort of thing.

    The action you take will depend on if you want to maintain a relationship for future work.

    If it was a one time thing or if you are so pizzed you want to end the relationship: small claims and a letter to the Law Board about ethics - he won't want either of those. If you use the court may sure it is in a court (jurisdiction) where he has done a lot - so when he walks in the court room he will be embarrassed.

    If you want to work for the guy again - call your attorney and ask him what's up with the dude. Call the dude directly and be polite - ask what is wrong with the invoice.

    How long has it been - time wise? Many attornies pay when they get paid.
  • BigDanSBigDanS Posts: 820 Officer
    OK... he is an officer of the court, obligated to uphold high ethical standards.

    Taking him to court, putting him in front of a judge, with a legitimate beef will cause him embarrassment. If you have a really solid case give it to an attorney and he can charge his fees as well.

    If you have no contract, and a weaker case, go to small claims yourself.

    IMHO

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  • MedcinMnMedcinMn Posts: 135 Officer
    If you go the small claims route, I guarantee one of two things will happen: he will pay you before the court date or he will not show up for the court date. My guess is he'll contact you and try to settle for less.
  • hooknlinehooknline Posts: 5,523 Admiral
    MedcinMn wrote: »
    If you go the small claims route, I guarantee one of two things will happen: he will pay you before the court date or he will not show up for the court date. My guess is he'll contact you and try to settle for less.

    Yep. They bank on people not doing anything or if they do something it's all about the negotiation. They're as bad as for heads that way. Those in services know what I'm talking about. It's a culture thing
  • SeaSpySeaSpy Posts: 410 Deckhand
    Retainer.
    An attorney will not work for you without one.
    Why wouldn't you.

    No professional will ever loose respect for requesting an advanced fee for
    Services.
    An ongoing relationship will build mutual trust.

    Again
    If said atty is a valued customer who has paid in the past
    Work with the customer on payments late fees etc.
    Then get retainer prior so starting next job.


    If atty is first time client and F ya then sue their ****.
    The comments has to how and where above are great.

    Good luck.
    Ron
    Ron Alford Expert Investigations & Surveillance
    www.seaspy.theplan.com
  • AC ManAC Man Posts: 7,312 Admiral
    Does he deny owing you the money? Or just not wanting to pay? Is he local?, if so, this is what I did with an atty that owed me money............

    I called his office, told the secretary I will be there in 10 min and I am not leaving till I get my money. I said you tell him that and that I am on my way. When I got there his office door was closed and the check was on her desk. I asked her what he said, and she said he told her "we should hire him to collect our money". :rotflmao
  • BobDBobD Posts: 1,969 Captain
    Do you know who his client was? Take the client to small claims court because it was the client that got the benefit of your work. have him deal with the attny.
    Build your dream or someone will hire you to build theirs.
  • Salty GatorSalty Gator Posts: 1,831 Captain
    Thanks for the options. The bill is a year old. He actually got paid right after the work I did. He apparently did not account for my bill when getting his fees from the client. Not my problem, but that was the excuse the last time he actually answered one of my calls.

    I think this was a one time deal with him but I do consulting work for attorney's once or twice a year. If filing a small claims case, do I file in my county where the work was done or in the county where he works?
  • yak_angleryak_angler Posts: 2,585 Captain
    If filing a small claims case, do I file in my county where the work was done or in the county where he works?

    The rule for determining where you can sue in small claims courts is Rule 7.060.

    Right to Venue. The law gives the person or company who has sued you the right to file suit in any one of several places as listed below. However, if you have been sued in any place other than one of these places, you, as the defendant, have the right to request that the case be moved to a proper location or venue. A proper location or venue may be one of the following:
    1. Where the contract was entered into.
    2. If the suit is on an unsecured promissory note, where the note is signed or where the maker resides.
    3. If the suit is to recover property or to foreclose a lien, where the property is located.
    4. Where the event giving rise to the suit occurred.
    5. Where any one or more of the defendants sued reside.
    6. Any location agreed to in a contract.
    7. In an action for money due, if there is no agreement as to where suit may be filed, where payment is to be made.
    If you, as a defendant, believe the plaintiff has not sued in one of these correct places, you must appear on your court date and orally request a transfer, or you must file a written request for transfer in affidavit form (sworn to under oath) with the court 7 days prior to your first court date and send a copy to the plaintiff or plaintiff’s attorney, if any.


    For the entire set of rules governing small claims actions see www.floridabar.org/TFB/TFBResources.nsf/0/5E3D51AF15EE8DCD85256B29004BFA62/$FILE/Small Claims.pdf?OpenElement
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  • Team SabatageTeam Sabatage Posts: 13,014 AG
    Have any of you won a claim in small claims court? Won the judgement?


    I have, and even after the court said that I was to be paid, I still had to hire a collection agency to get my money. The result was basically selling my debt to them for 50% of the money awarded and walking away with it while they took over the collection. Even with a judgement, there is still no mechinism in place to get you paid.
    It's not like the judge says "Lock them up till they pay" This is not a court fine.
    All the court does is confirm you should be paid.
    Strap me in, tie me down and roll me a bone, I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying home...
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