What is this fish

Here is a video of a fish I caught today. I've seen these before in the waters and have been told they were alligator gar. Nowvthat I see it I see it I have not a clue what it is.

http://s715.photobucket.com/albums/ww159/04gsNA/?action=view&current=2012-08-17_19-54-26_908.mp4

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  • Captain Shane ProcellCaptain Shane Procell Posts: 371 Officer
    Just a regular gar.
  • DaveFortMyersDaveFortMyers Posts: 168 Officer
    Are they common. Seems like every lake only has one in them

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  • DaveFortMyersDaveFortMyers Posts: 168 Officer
    Kinda mad they don't come in huge amounts. He was a fun fish to catch. Had a good fight

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  • capt louiecapt louie citrus countyPosts: 9,555 Moderator
    They get pretty big also. My nephew caught this one.

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  • DaveFortMyersDaveFortMyers Posts: 168 Officer
    Holy shot I guess mines a baby then

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  • capt louiecapt louie citrus countyPosts: 9,555 Moderator
    I seen one in lake Rousseau a few weeks ago that was close to double that size. Most of the bigger river systems have good size ones.
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  • Austins26Austins26 Posts: 1,989 Captain
    I think I read somehwere that Gar fish, an there eggs are poisonous to other fish, birds, even turtles.

    anyone know if this is true.
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  • DaveFortMyersDaveFortMyers Posts: 168 Officer
    I have heard they were an invasive species and should be killed

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  • Austins26Austins26 Posts: 1,989 Captain
    that too


    my thought was if they're posionous once in a body of water (admittedly they're everywhere) don't they decimate the other fish population

    I've seen a few while snorkeling that were 5ft long lords know what they weighed I almost mistook 2-3 them for submered logs
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  • mandaferretmandaferret Posts: 932 Officer
    Gar are native fish that have been around much longer than bass or other sunfish. They should not be killed for no reason as this can actually upset the natural balance of a water body. Gar out of clean water taste as good as any freshwater fish, but as mentioned before their roe is toxic. Gar and bowfin, both viewed as trash fish even though they fight harder than any bass I have ever caught :huh, are both important to a freshwater ecosystem as they keep populations of other fish in check which prevents stunting. So unless you want the largest bass in your pond to be 10" long, let the gar go.
  • RemoteRedsTroutRemoteRedsTrout Posts: 408 Deckhand
    ^this
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  • Austins26Austins26 Posts: 1,989 Captain
    they fight harder than any bass I have ever caught your right
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  • DaveFortMyersDaveFortMyers Posts: 168 Officer
    Austins26 wrote: »
    they fight harder than any bass I have ever caught your right

    It felt like I caught a baby Gatorade again I was pissed at first.

    Once I saw it I was freaked out to touch it. Thing has some wild teeth. **** makes sense why its in my natural pond rather than the man made ones. Thanks for the info.

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  • FS TreyFS Trey Posts: 87 Greenhorn
    What you caught there is your typical Florida gar. The picture posted above is a different speices... longnose gar that gets considerably larger. My buddy and I were fly fishing near some locks for small tarpon earlier this summer and he thought he got a good eat from a tarpon and turned out to be a longnose gar about that same size in the picture above. On a fly rod... that thing was putting a hurting on my buddy. They are a truly spectacular fish.
  • mandaferretmandaferret Posts: 932 Officer
    Hardest part is holding them. The easiest way it to use a boga grip type tool of hold them around the shoulders. The best tips for catching them is to use a small bait. A gar will carry a bait around for a few minutes until they really eat it so a small bait fixes this. As mentioned above, fly rods are great for gar, especially when they jump. We have four species of Gar in Florida: spotted, Florida, alligator, and Longnose. Spotted and Florida gar are smaller and more common in their respective parts of the state, and longnose gar grow up to 6ft and alligators up to 15 ft.
  • kodiakzachkodiakzach Posts: 6,074 Admiral
    I will add my little tidbit of advice here. DO NOT, under any circumstance land them in a net.... Unless of course you feel like dealing with a huge mess that will probably required you to cut your net to their jagged, sharp as hell teeth out.
  • DaveFortMyersDaveFortMyers Posts: 168 Officer
    That I figured. I was freaked out to even touch it. Are those teeth real for chopping?

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  • mandaferretmandaferret Posts: 932 Officer
    The teeth are needle like for holding. I've only had a few cut 8lb test.
  • DaveFortMyersDaveFortMyers Posts: 168 Officer
    So they could get a snap at your finger?

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  • mandaferretmandaferret Posts: 932 Officer
    Easily, they wouldn't cut it off like a kingfish would, but you would definitively need stitches.
  • DaveFortMyersDaveFortMyers Posts: 168 Officer
    **** yea I kind of figured it was for more than looks

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  • Guitarshredder1Guitarshredder1 Posts: 354 Officer
    Austins26 wrote: »
    I think I read somehwere that Gar fish, an there eggs are poisonous to other fish, birds, even turtles.

    anyone know if this is true.

    Yeah, gar roe is poisonous.
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  • DaveFortMyersDaveFortMyers Posts: 168 Officer
    So the eggs in the water hurt my other fish.

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  • capt louiecapt louie citrus countyPosts: 9,555 Moderator
    So the eggs in the water hurt my other fish.

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    They won't hurt the other fish.
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  • DaveFortMyersDaveFortMyers Posts: 168 Officer
    Oh okay. How do they reproduce. I don't see many around here

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  • mandaferretmandaferret Posts: 932 Officer
    They lay eggs. The eggs are only poisonous if other fish eat them.
  • FS JeffFS Jeff Posts: 371 Moderator
    Forget B.A.S.S., you guys need to join G.A.S.S., the Gar Anglers Sporting Society!

    I'm not kidding.
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  • CodySCodyS Posts: 243 Officer
    The longnose around where I live keep the tilapia population from getting out of hand in the brackish creeks. Mad fun to catch on topwater when nothing else is biting.
  • JettyparkJettypark Posts: 1,922 Captain
    Once they get that big they are great fight on light tackle
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  • Austins26Austins26 Posts: 1,989 Captain
    all are true once they take hold in a lake/pond. being that they're eggs are poisonous they'll quickly eat any fish they can get in they're mouths

    I've witnessed them eat ducklings, snakes, small rats, frogs, insects, attack small wading birds.

    i give everyone i catch a dirt nap


    http://fishing.about.com/od/bowfinandgar/a/alligator_gar.htm

    They are edible but the eggs are toxic to warm blooded animals and birds.

    http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Gallery/Descript/AlligatorGar/AlligatorGar.html

    The eggs are bright red and poisonous if eaten.
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