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Divers Dive under your boat; What can you do about it?

FoulHookedFoulHooked Posts: 23 Greenhorn
I need some help on this one. I posted here:

I went out of Fort Pierce inlet this Saturday with my pops and lil'brother to go bottom fish the Halsey Wreck. We drifted it a few times to make sure the fish were there and setup anchor right in front of it. Tied the Menhaden chum back behind the boat and started fishing. we were catching a variety of fish for about an hour and then I brought out the silver side (glass minnow) chum bag. Within the next hour we were catching yellow tail and grey snapper. We had at least 2 other boats come up to us because it looked like they wanted to fish the spot but we were anchored right on the money so they polightly backed off and found another spot (Thanks!).

About 2-3 hours in, a 20 something foot everglades comes up behind us, the driver is looking at his GPS and my boat and realizes that I am on the wreck. He drops in two divers about 300 ft back who try to swim against the current to get to the wreck. That did not work. He picks up the divers after having a chat with one of the divers who is pointing at my boat, pulls up along the starboard side of my boat and they both drop in off the sides while the boat is still moving with no flags. They swim behind my boat within 50 feet, I have bubbles going through my line as they swim to the port side. One of the divers they pops up and tells me about how I almost hooked him in the face when bringing in my line but then he shot a 30lb cobia. After that the bite was gone so I just picked up the lines and left. I did drive by his boat to politely tell him that I did not appreciate what he did and how rude it was (my little brother is only 7 and I was not going to lose my temper over these inconsiderate jerks).

As a fisherman, If I pulled this on a dive boat, I would likely be arrested and or fined. So what the hec am I supposed to do as a fisherman who has a divers come dive under his boat. I know this post will probably infuriate some fisherman but divers should be upset too because these guys give you a bad name.

Do I call the Coast Guard? Sheriff? What do I do?


I was in shock for a sec when they dove in so close so it took me a min to get my camera but here is the pic of the boat about a min after they dove in.




I started picking up the lines when they were crossing them so I put the camera down. I took some more shots when they got to the port side. I used a box to highlight the bubbles?







After he finished telling me about the Cobia he drifted off. The current was ripping and anyone out Saturday could vouch.






After I told him politely that what he did was rude and illegal, I took a shot of him getting ready to board.

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  • FloridaBoyFloridaBoy Posts: 284 Officer
    This isnt the first time i heard about these divers out of ft pierce, i dont know if its the same guys every time but I have heard lots of stories from buddies fishing on a wreck in ft pierce and a dive boat comes up and drops thier divers right next to em. I too would like to hear the answer to this one
  • Ron@.38 Special[email protected] Special Posts: 6,934 Admiral
    4KW transducer, turn up the gain and after a few dives under your boat, they will be seeing a hearing specialist!
  • shempshemp Posts: 618 Officer
    I think cytranic has it right, but IDK

    If you had time to kill and somebody was monitoring 68, you could call the coasties or LEO and explain; it might be considered dangerous operation, but IDK. I fish and dive. A couple times divers have crowded me on a fishing spot...if it's shallow enough I do the same thing i do when fishermen crowd me on a fishing spot. Start the engine and then fast idle it to 5k a couple times, then leave. Good luck with your catching after that.

    It's way worse IMHO when you're diving, esp. freediving w/ a flag up and a boat comes over top of you.

    I also hunt, most often on public land, and can tell you that it seems some people value competition and confrontation more than sportsmanship and having fun...sad
  • FishInFLFishInFL Posts: 2,222 Captain
    I thought it was also illegal to interfere with someone's fishing or hunting, which they are doing.
  • TuckerTucker Posts: 126 Officer
    wow thats crazy. some people just dont know the meaning of respect.
  • TuckerTucker Posts: 126 Officer
    p.s . they look like morons
  • surfmansurfman WC FLPosts: 5,982 Admiral
    M80's and 6oz of lead :)
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  • Roc N RolRoc N Rol Posts: 1,352 Officer
    No dive flag means you could crank up the motor and do some high speed passes around the area as much as you want, some close chris crosses in the area of the boat and divers
  • BeachTymeBeachTyme Posts: 129 Deckhand
    FishInFL wrote: »
    I thought it was also illegal to interfere with someone's fishing or hunting, which they are doing.

    This is true.

    We all have to share the water, the fishing spots and the fish. Common courtesy goes a long way these days, but is often uncommon.
  • spearjunkyspearjunky Posts: 184 Deckhand
    get some strech 30s or 50s and start puling them over the bubbles:grin
  • PlumbPlumb Posts: 21 Greenhorn
    Btt need answer from fwc
  • Jack HexterJack Hexter New Port RicheyPosts: 5,016 Moderator
    My fishing club has a couple of FWC Officers at our last meeting a week ago. I asked what could be done if I'm anchored on a spot and a diver comes up and drops over.
    one of the officers said that absolutely nothing could be done and he, the officer, has had this happen to him. He did say that it is the dive boat's responsibility to remain 300' from another boat.
  • aboveboredabovebored Posts: 1,291 Officer
    We are operating on the honor system.Unfortunately, for a growing number people this does not work. Etiquette is is dyin by the day. Exposing the perps with your camera is a great idea. Too bad they probably feel no shame anyway.
  • PlumbPlumb Posts: 21 Greenhorn
    Darn. Wanted a better answer.
  • TriplecleanTripleclean Posts: 6,591 Officer
    Post pics of your fish, screw the drivers.
  • PermitchaserPermitchaser Posts: 871 Officer
    chicken rig with triple hooks lol.were u on the spot before them?
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  • PermitchaserPermitchaser Posts: 871 Officer
    u were there first ,so they are idiots ,just like you are anchored another boat comes and anchored in your chum, that gets my blood boilling so what i do is wait until they start chuming and anchored behind there chum .and look at there faces .
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  • FrisbeeFrisbee Posts: 2,315 Officer
    I was gonnas say "Chum heavy"
  • The Cat's EyeThe Cat's Eye Posts: 1,481 Officer
    This thread gave me a great idea. I have a huge old cow bell I bought in Switzerland when I was stationed in Germany many years ago. Never had much use for it until now. I wonder if the bell would scare off every fish in the area if I clang it hard under the water’s surface if I see diver's in my chum line. (Two steel pipes tied loosely together would also probably work). Then troll and follow them for the rest of the day banging away with your bell or pipes, and see if they like it.
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  • rkulprkulp Posts: 32 Deckhand
    I recommend a bundle of artificial money or gold coins rigged weedless.

    Rob
  • aboveboredabovebored Posts: 1,291 Officer
    Tucker wrote: »
    p.s . they look like morons

    X10!
  • GROUPER SCOOPERGROUPER SCOOPER Posts: 1,871 Captain
    Sounds like a good reason to stop by the fire works shop and load up on some m-80's or similar explosives.
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  • Austin MitchellAustin Mitchell Posts: 361 Officer
    Throw out a few cut up bonita and bring the sharks and big cudas up.
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  • etommy28etommy28 Posts: 311 Deckhand
    Hydro bombs......
  • ShallowExpectationsShallowExpectations Posts: 381 Deckhand
    Take down their FL # and call up sherriff/Coast guard/FWC and get someone out there. At the very least they are going to get cited for not having a diver's down flag. All other suggestions about trolling over them, fireworks, cowbells or whatever are only going to either waste your time or worse into trouble. Get the authorities out there. Hope you were able to grab some nice yellowtails and mangos before this fiasco ruined your spot.
  • FrisbeeFrisbee Posts: 2,315 Officer
    When is someone gonna just take a gun a killed everyone in the other boat? What really are the chances of getting caught? it isn't like they could ever even find the site of the crime. Someone rolls up on someone and shoots till the other people quit moving, and then they reload and shoot some more. The amount of physical evidence is only going to be in the projectiles. use a "stolen" gun. No one could ever solve the crime.
    Witnesses?
    Physical evidence?
    Motive?

    Even if you decided to tell on yourself days later they would have a difficult time prosecuting you.
    Surely there have to be a file on crimes that happened "at sea" that have no chance of being solved?
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  • Jack HexterJack Hexter New Port RicheyPosts: 5,016 Moderator
    FoulHooked wrote: »
    One of the divers they pops up and tells me about how I almost hooked him in the face when bringing in my line

    Seems to be a personal problem
  • Bottom LinesBottom Lines Posts: 1,105 Officer
    spearjunky wrote: »
    get some strech 30s or 50s and start puling them over the bubbles:grin

    Of all the advice above, I like this the best...
  • IntheslotIntheslot Posts: 342 Deckhand
    So ask yourself the question of whether you would really want someone to get seriously hurt even if they are a bonehead? If they are that stupid to begin with then they probably already have more than their fair share of problems back at the dock.

    I know that there is a law that states that you cannot hinder a fisherman. I once had a dive boat tell me that I had to move because after he came up I was within 300' and that was illegal. I got out my phone and asked him to repeat it on video, which he did not do. Then I told him that the 300' rule applies to my safe speed operation and I could idle around him in circles for hours if so inclined. Some of the divers complained and I suggested that they find a more knowelgeable captain next time around. Oh and the moon was shining brightly if you know what I mean!

    My best remedy is that you find that law and be able to cite it on the spot and then video tape the incident let them know that you will file charges when getting back to land. Maybe you'll get bonus footage like cursing or the bird for the judge.
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