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Ol MuckyOl Mucky Posts: 5,629 Admiral
Miami just couldn't get over the fact we've been doing it for soooo much longer.
And better :cool


So Tampa is poised to lay rightful claim to the Cuban sandwich that's as much a part of this city's heritage as its brick streets. And Miami starts talking smack.

Typical.

Possibly miffed at the Tampa City Council's plan to make the Cuban the official "signature sandwich" Thursday, our sister city to the south is maligning how we've put together our Cubans for oh, a century or so.

Miami Mayor Tomas Regalado chuckled, according to the Miami Herald, at the salami we layer in with the ham, pork, Swiss, pickle and mustard required to make a proper Cuban.

To us, that salami slice salutes this town's proud Italian roots. But Regalado scoffs that salami "is for pizza."

And, really? You plan to win a food culture war with salami pizza as your standard for what's normal?

Miami is my hometown and Tampa my home. I love both, but they couldn't be more different. When I was growing up down there, the clash of cultures could be fractious, so it was interesting to move to a town with a Latin Quarter long integrated by a blend of Cuban, Spanish and Italian immigrants.

So take this, Miami: Research indicates Tampa was making what we currently call the Cuban sandwich back in the cigarmaker days — before Miami was even Miami.

Who better to ask about all this than Ybor City's own Jack Espinosa, former standup comic, sheriff's spokesman and author of the memoir Cuban Bread Crumbs? Now 80, Espinosa says when he tried to order a Cuban in Havana in the 1950s, the waiter thought he was kidding. Wasn't any sandwich made by a Cuban a Cuban sandwich? The "mixto," or mixed sandwich that became the Cuban, was a Depression sort of creation, a hearty meal made with what was at hand. Like salami.

And purists, do not be alarmed: Espinosa says when he was a kid and men talking of important matters on a front porch paid him a nickel to run over to Los Helados de Ybor for sustenance, the sandwiches he delivered included, get ready, a slice of turkey. And, you could opt for butter over mustard. Nobody spoke of mayo, and "nobody thought about lettuce and tomato unless you asked for it — when we got richer," he says. Food, like language, evolves.

I can offer this: On Saturdays when my parents worked on our boat docked on the Miami River near the Orange Bowl, I was sent down the street to pick up lunch from one of those spots where Spanish-speaking men lined the counters throwing back supercharged coffee from tiny cups. On the menu: Media noche, ham and mixto sandwiches. Cubans? Nada.

In Miami, I never tasted the kind of bread that makes a true Cuban here, baked at places like La Segunda Central Bakery in long loaves with a palmetto palm frond to split the center. Miami bread was good, just different, like arguing the superiority of gulf beaches versus Atlantic ones.

It is civic pride, then, that makes us fierce about food, declaring that our town alone makes the only real barbecue or chili or cheese steaks. Food threads a city's history. In Tampa, that's the Cuban.

So maybe we can settle this over steaming cups of cafe con leche with our Miami friends. Probably they won't know to dunk their buttered Cuban toast in it like they're supposed to, but we can show them. Tampa's friendly like that.
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  • flatsjunkie88flatsjunkie88 Posts: 1,364 Officer
    Brocato's in Tampa makes the best cuban around.
  • johnDjohnD Posts: 6,427 Admiral
    Brocato's in Tampa makes the best cuban around.

    1/2 a cuban and a crab roll with texas pete for lunch and i won't eat dinner that night.
  • GermGerm Posts: 1,704 Captain
    I havent had any cubans yet in tampa itself, but theres a pretty good cuban restaruant in land o lakes that has awesome cubans for only $5
  • Split ShotSplit Shot Posts: 6,193 Admiral
    Just send me some Cuban bread! :obscene
  • springnutsspringnuts Posts: 1,354 Officer
    Split Shot wrote: »
    Just send me some Cuban bread! :obscene

    what he said!
  • Baits OutBaits Out Posts: 12,328 AG
    Been sooooooooooo long since I have had me a good pressed Cuban sammich.

    Local older couple used to own a convenience story in which that was featured.

    They apparently sold out some months ago and the new owner no longer offers.


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    A southeast Florida laid back beach bum and volunteer bikini assessor who lives on island time. 
  • Jack HexterJack Hexter Posts: 5,612 Moderator
    Having spent 27 years in Miami and 10 in the Tampa area, I have yet to find a Cuban Sandwich in Tampa that could compare to the better Cuban's in Miami. Latin American Restaurants in Miami and Hialeah made the best Cubans around. Don't know if those restaurants are around any longer. I was in Miami last week and had a pretty good Cuban at Havana Harry's (Lejeune @ 2 blocks N of S Dixie)

    Baked (not boiled) ham, Roast pork, Swiss cheese, pickle slices on a good Cuban bread with mustard (NO mayo), buttered on the outside and pressed till the cheese starts to melt, cut diagonally. Forget the lettuce, tomato and salami :puke And don't chintz on the meat.
  • got ants?got ants? Posts: 9,139 Admiral
    I grew up eating cuban sammichs, sans salami. The kid across the street was born ib Cuba, but not of peasants. His father was in Batista's government, and even assassinated on Miama Beach. His mom made us traditional pressed sammiches, made from La Perna and Ham. It was prolly southern sweet ham bought at Kwik Chek.

    So I have a feeling the part of not having a cuban sammich, in Cuba, might have been embellished a bit.

    Call yours what you want, a cuban to me hast no salami.
  • Ol MuckyOl Mucky Posts: 5,629 Admiral
    Having spent 27 years in Miami and 10 in the Tampa area, I have yet to find a Cuban Sandwich in Tampa that could compare to the better Cuban's in Miami. Latin American Restaurants in Miami and Hialeah made the best Cubans around. Don't know if those restaurants are around any longer. I was in Miami last week and had a pretty good Cuban at Havana Harry's (Lejeune @ 2 blocks N of S Dixie)

    Baked (not boiled) ham, Roast pork, Swiss cheese, pickle slices on a good Cuban bread with mustard (NO mayo), buttered on the outside and pressed till the cheese starts to melt, cut diagonally. Forget the lettuce, tomato and salami :puke And don't chintz on the meat.


    Something about the bread used in Miami have most folks rating the Miami sammich much lower.
    Its all relative really
    It was funny listenting to the Mayor of Miami "battle" it out on the radio with our representative
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  • big_tbig_t Posts: 589 Officer
    the best cuban sandwich came from a man named Badia. He had a shop on Flamingo Drive (E 4th Ave) in Hialeah. History will tell you he made the first cuban sandwich in so florida. period.
  • got ants?got ants? Posts: 9,139 Admiral
    Mucky, cuban bread is basically white bread, and tasteless, so I'm assuming if they used salami, they prolly also used italian bread up nawth.

    What makes it so good down heya is the roast pork. You really have to find a place that has good roast pork, fer the sammich to be good.

    My brother's wife makes the La Pierna, and along with the roast pork, the best thing is dipping soft cuban bread into the drippings/mojo/grease. It'll stick to your ribs fer sure.
  • NoeetticaNoeettica Posts: 2,424 Captain
    Amen Brother !

    Brocato's in Tampa makes the best cuban around.
    We are ALL Brothers on the water ! 

    No one "Owns" the waterways !
  • big_tbig_t Posts: 589 Officer
    Brocato's in Tampa makes the best cuban around.

    except it aint a cuban sandwich. its a tampa cuban sandwich. yuck.
  • HialeahAnglerHialeahAngler Posts: 9,612 Admiral
    big_t wrote: »
    except it aint a cuban sandwich. its a tampa cuban sandwich. yuck.

    tell that trAd!
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  • drkpttdrkptt Posts: 1,927 Captain
    got ants? wrote: »
    Mucky, cuban bread is basically white bread, and tasteless, so I'm assuming if they used salami, they prolly also used italian bread up nawth.

    ...

    You would be assuming wrong. The best Tampa Cubans are made with La Segunda bread, baked since 1915 by four generations of the same family.
    http://lasegundabakery.com/index.php

    Read this to see how serious the Columbia restaurant is about the meat in their cubans.
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/retail/article1119309.ece

    Don't read this story if you're hungry:
    http://cltampa.com/dailyloaf/archives/2010/10/19/the-cuban-sandwich-diaries-a-lifelong-obsession-with-tampas-finest-sandwich#.T578n9nFBK0
  • got ants?got ants? Posts: 9,139 Admiral
    Key West and Miama long existed before Tamp anf Ybor city, and cuban sandwiches were made way before the latter two were evr thought of.
  • Cane PoleCane Pole Posts: 10,030 AG
    Pretty hard to find a bad cuban sandwich.

    I like a Medianoche too
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  • drkpttdrkptt Posts: 1,927 Captain
    got ants? wrote: »
    Key West and Miama long existed before Tamp anf Ybor city, and cuban sandwiches were made way before the latter two were evr thought of.

    Try again. Tampa was incorporated over 40 years before Miami; Ybor City alone was bigger than Miami in 1890 (Miami population: 861).
  • ruskinredneckruskinredneck Posts: 1,121 Officer
    big_t wrote: »
    except it aint a cuban sandwich. its a tampa cuban sandwich. yuck.
    And by Tampa Cuban sandwich, I assume you mean the ORIGINAL CUBAN SANDWHICH. So, you are picking a bastardization of the original? Yuck is right!
  • ruskinredneckruskinredneck Posts: 1,121 Officer
    got ants? wrote: »
    Key West and Miama long existed before Tamp anf Ybor city, and cuban sandwiches were made way before the latter two were evr thought of.
    :nono:rotflmao Key West, maybe. Miami, NO!
  • Sea SnakeSea Snake Posts: 5,536 Admiral
    This is what we make....Dandee Cuban....(shameless plug, I know...)

    cubansandwichlinz.jpg

    And yes it starts with La Segunda Cuban bread (and has been that way forever)....it has all the regular Cuban essentials including roast pork, and yes we do put salami on it, but if you're like me and don't like the peppercorns, you just take the salami off and chunk it. And it only has mustard. But in all honesty, we sell the most in the southwest Florida area, and they all want the salami....(I guess it's a Tampa thing)...but I'm not complaining, we make tons of 'em and sell most of them there. The whole southwest coast.

    We used to make a Havana Melt...which is basically the same Cuban without the salami. We also make a Grill to go Cuban wrapped in parchment paper, so it can go on a grill press.....now that is the best way to eat one by far. You can also do the same at home by putting a little butter on top and bottom of your Cuban sandwich, and grilling it with a george foreman type grill, unless you have a panini press.

    They're pretty dang good for a convenience store sandwich.....for an on the go treat, nuke it for about 40 seconds so the cheese slightly melts....on the boat just eat 'em cold :thumbsup

    I just had one for lunch today...:wink




    Oh...and a side note....a good and flattened out piece of La Segunda Cuban bread...makes a killer grilled cheese sandwich :full

    ...just sayin'.....
  • ruskinredneckruskinredneck Posts: 1,121 Officer
    And Broccato's is very good but I will take The Columbia's or La Ideal's over it. One requirement- Cuban bread from La Segunda bakery.
  • big_tbig_t Posts: 589 Officer
    And by Tampa Cuban sandwich, I assume you mean the ORIGINAL CUBAN SANDWHICH. So, you are picking a bastardization of the original? Yuck is right!

    you have heard the little ditty 'bout assuming, right?
  • ruskinredneckruskinredneck Posts: 1,121 Officer
    Sea Snake- We had this discussion on the old forum. Y'all make a **** fine convenience store Cuban. It is usually my go to fishing sandwich. And, believe me, the use of the La Segunda bread does not go unnoticed! Quality product at a good price.
  • ruskinredneckruskinredneck Posts: 1,121 Officer
    big_t wrote: »
    you have heard the little ditty 'bout assuming, right?
    "You and me"
  • AbelmanAbelman Posts: 1,853 Captain
    Cuban's are great sammies. I have had them from Lauderdale to Marathon. Never had one with salami on it. However, that sounds very good.

    I make them at home with a press.

    So, is salami official or not on a Cuban?
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  • ruskinredneckruskinredneck Posts: 1,121 Officer
    Abelman- If you are talking about the first Cuban sandwich, then yes, it is official.
  • Capt'n. ChumbucketCapt'n. Chumbucket Posts: 1,366 Officer
    got ants? wrote: »
    Key West and Miama long existed before Tamp anf Ybor city, and cuban sandwiches were made way before the latter two were evr thought of.
    Documentation please
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  • ruskinredneckruskinredneck Posts: 1,121 Officer
    Documentation please
    x2
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