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Boca's Boat Ramp under siege. Please send emails...

I need HELP! Would you please send an email to the City Council? Just state that you would like the public's input to be included on the decision of what to do with the Wildflower property and not rush into allowing a restaurant to be built there.
Here are the email addresses...

City Manager, [email protected]
Mayor, [email protected]
Councilwoman, [email protected]
Councilman, [email protected]
Councilman, [email protected]
Councilwoman, [email protected]

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  • Plane Fish nPlane Fish n Posts: 6,439 Admiral
    Bigtasty wrote: »
    I need HELP! Would you please send an email to the City Council? Just state that you would like the public's input to be included on the decision of what to do with the Wildflower property and not rush into allowing a restaurant to be built there.
    Here are the email addresses...

    City Manager, [email protected]
    Mayor, [email protected]
    Councilwoman, [email protected]
    Councilman, [email protected]
    Councilman, [email protected]
    Councilwoman, [email protected]

    Bigtasty,

    I am not familiar with the Wildflower property and I am probably not alone.

    Can you let us know the story? You might garner more emails this way.

    Cheers

    Eric
    PLANE FISH N
  • MGDMGD Posts: 1,249 Officer
    Bigtasty wrote: »
    I need HELP! Would you please send an email to the City Council? Just state that you would like the public's input to be included on the decision of what to do with the Wildflower property and not rush into allowing a restaurant to be built there.
    Here are the email addresses...

    City Manager, [email protected]
    Mayor, [email protected]
    Councilwoman, [email protected]
    Councilman, [email protected]
    Councilman, [email protected]
    Councilwoman, [email protected]

    I'm not sure what the plans are for that property. How will it affect the boat ramp?

    Nevermind. Read your other post. Quite a difference betweeen wanting more boat ramp space (good thing) and Boca's Boat Ramp under siege
  • Plane Fish nPlane Fish n Posts: 6,439 Admiral
    MGD wrote: »
    I'm not sure what the plans are for that property. How will it affect the boat ramp?

    Nevermind. Read your other post. Quite a difference betweeen wanting more boat ramp space (good thing) and Boca's Boat Ramp under siege

    I didn't know there was another post... thanks MGD.

    Asking for input from the group of people who are most likely to use it for what it was intended makes sense to me.

    I agree with MGD that "Boca's Boat Ramp under siege" is a bit over the top.

    Cheers

    Eric
    PLANE FISH N
  • Uncle BuckUncle Buck Posts: 1,197 Officer
    The former "Wildflower" property...

    wildflower_property.jpg

    If they are planning to build a restaurant there, they should develop it's parking lot to include the area under the bridge, to connect to the Park. Designate a certain percentage of the spots for "restaurant-only" and let the others be open. Silver Palm would actually gain car parking spots (vs trailer-only). There are actually NO long-term car parking spaces at the Park. Only 2-hour parking at the face dock. Yes, there is an area for parking under the bridge, but those are technically not parking spots.
    Meanwhile, on the little fiberglass boat Uncle Buck...
  • The Generator NinjaThe Generator Ninja Posts: 42 Deckhand
    Letter sent. The contractor that did the palmetto park road restore scored am awesome staging area. I guess they are done with it?
  • BigtastyBigtasty Posts: 12 Greenhorn
    This is a siege and we will lose space in Silver Palm if we do nothing. I believe that a dedicated group could generate support from the citizens and change the outcome of this. Below are quotes from the proposal submitted to the City that indicate they have plans to encroach into the park. I would rather the boat ramp encroach into the Wildflower property...

    "Bricktop's architects are prepared to engage with the cities land use and other professionals to develop a site plan for the development of the park. As is evidenced by the attached conceptual site plans, (no plans attached yet) Bricktop's proposes that all of the parcels constituting the park be combined as one seamless consolidated park, with each component parcel to be at even grade. The conceptual site plan also illustrates aesthetic improvements to be made to the walk-way beneath the elevated portion of Palmetto Park Road which will be an attractive connector to Silver Palm Park, improved by lighting and seating areas."

    "Consideration should be given to implementation of parking meters and other controlled parking devices at Silver Palm Park to maintain a rotation of uses of the parking areas at Silver Palm Park."
  • MGDMGD Posts: 1,249 Officer
    I sent emails to the list. Those proposed changes would not be good for weekends and holidays. Don't know how much it would affect weekday use
  • MGDMGD Posts: 1,249 Officer
    Got this reply from the Mayor:
    I think you have some very valid questions/concerns that council will certainly taken interest in if this concept were to move forward. At this point in time, we have not seen a formal proposal. Thank you for taking the time to email Best Regards and have a safe and happy holiday.
    Susan Whelchel
  • captinmitchcaptinmitch Posts: 5,807 Admiral
    You should turn that into your Civics teacher. She'll probably give you extra credit. ;)
  • BigtastyBigtasty Posts: 12 Greenhorn
    That's BS. She's seen the proposal and it's ugly. The boat ramp will be all but shut down if this passes. I will be glad to forward a copy of the proposal that was submitted to the City to anyone that asks. I am getting copies of the proposed site plans and will post them as soon as I can.

    Contact me at: [email protected] and I will keep you in the loop...
  • Uncle BuckUncle Buck Posts: 1,197 Officer
    The siteplan would be great to see. Reading legaleeze short-circuits me brain.
    Meanwhile, on the little fiberglass boat Uncle Buck...
  • BigtastyBigtasty Posts: 12 Greenhorn
    I hope you can see this. I only see about 32 spaces for trailers and getting in and out of them is not going to be easy. The washdown area is gone. 122 car parking spaces added for use by a restaurant on the other side of the bridge. Where do they come up with crap like this???

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  • BigtastyBigtasty Posts: 12 Greenhorn
    Oh! And the City of Boca gets to pay for all the Site work, paving, utilities, and landscaping, then provide all the maintenance. I feel sick...
  • MGDMGD Posts: 1,249 Officer
    Bigtasty wrote: »
    I hope you can see this. I only see about 32 spaces for trailers and getting in and out of them is not going to be easy. The washdown area is gone. 122 car parking spaces added for use by a restaurant on the other side of the bridge. Where do they come up with crap like this???

    scan0002.jpg

    How can we prove this was sent to the city? I'll be happy to call her on it
  • BigtastyBigtasty Posts: 12 Greenhorn
    Email me at [email protected] and I will send you a copy of the proposal that was hand delivered to the City...
  • Uncle BuckUncle Buck Posts: 1,197 Officer
    I don't know man... It looks like an improvement to me. They're utilizing more of the property for vehicles that's just grass and trees right now. But they cut the dock in half... ****!?

    Right now, I'm seeing about 21 paved trailer spots, and about a dozen on the grass. Total ~33
    There are 12 paved spots for cars, with room for about 20 more under the bridge. Total ~32

    With the new plan, there could potentially be 43 (all paved) trailer spots, and 105 for cars.
    That's an additional 10 trailer spots, and 73 more car spots than exist right now.

    I don't see the plans for the north side of the property, but there's gotta be parking on the north side too, right? When the Wildflower existed, there were somewhere around 160 parking spots. Even if they build a restaurant twice the size of Wildflower, parking on the north side would only reduce to about 140 spots... plus the 105 added on the south side to handle restaurant overflow and ramp visitors. That's 245 car spots available... more than ever existed, for the two properties. Also keep in mind that peak demand for parking at the ramp is typically mid-morning to mid-afternoon, whereas the restaurant would have their peak parking demand in the evening.

    So, what's the big problem, BigT? Am I missing a key part of this equation?

    SilverPalm_now.jpg

    SilverPalm_overlay.jpg

    SilverPalm_plan.jpg
    Meanwhile, on the little fiberglass boat Uncle Buck...
  • MGDMGD Posts: 1,249 Officer
    Dang Buck...you have a lot of free time. :-)
    But nice work...
    If your numbers are right (not that I doubt it) that isn't bad. Agree that the dock needs to be full.
    But they take away my favorite parking spot under that tree across from the current bathrooms :-(
    I do have some concern though about traffic flow with the car spots so close to where we have to pull around for the ramp.
    And **** is that "Water Feature"????
  • bababouybababouy Posts: 560 Officer
    I guess I can count on the price of my decal going down for the next couple of years.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Night Hawk Monitoring
  • Uncle BuckUncle Buck Posts: 1,197 Officer
    MGD wrote: »
    Dang Buck...you have a lot of free time. :-)
    But nice work...
    If your numbers are right (not that I doubt it) that isn't bad. Agree that the dock needs to be full.
    But they take away my favorite parking spot under that tree across from the current bathrooms :-(
    I do have some concern though about traffic flow with the car spots so close to where we have to pull around for the ramp.
    And **** is that "Water Feature"????

    Very little free time. It only took about 10 minutes do do the overlay images. I used to create siteplans for communities (for advertising purposes) based on a combination of architectural drawings and satellite/aerial photos. So this kind of stuff is relatively easy for me. Bricktop's layout does look a bit cramped. I could probably design something better without losing too many spots, and adding more trailer convenience (wash area). Why do they need to move the pooper? Relocating it into the parking area just wastes space. If they want it moved, push it up under the bridge. I agree with the "****" about the "water feature". Why? As far as I'm concerned, the ICW is the water feature! A water feature would just become a transients' bathtub. Maybe they could pump saltwater from the ICW so we could use it for live bait storage! hahaha Oh, and they better keep the cleaning tables.

    I'd like to see the entire siteplan, but I'm okay with what I see here as an initial proposal.
    Meanwhile, on the little fiberglass boat Uncle Buck...
  • The Generator NinjaThe Generator Ninja Posts: 42 Deckhand
    I'm gonna chain myself to the fish cleaning tables if they try to remove them.
  • captinmitchcaptinmitch Posts: 5,807 Admiral
    I'm gonna chain myself to the fish cleaning tables if they try to remove them.

    Why? You never use it anyways. : biggrin:
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