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harbisonharbison Posts: 5,772 Admiral

Pew's use of, "Other research tools!"
The Pew Research Center, a Washington-based subsidiary, is home to most of our information initiatives. It uses impartial, fact-based public-opinion polling and other research tools to track important issues and trends
Orlando, Fla.

Pew praises approach but says more species should be included
Holly Binns, a project director for the Pew Environment Group, issued the following statement today in response to U.S. Commerce Secretary John Bryson’s approval of new catch limits on some species in the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council gave initial approval to the plans in August.

“These plans are a proactive approach and are significant for fish in the Gulf of Mexico. About two dozen species, from black grouper to gray snapper, are now protected under catch limits designed to prevent overfishing

Even the extremely abundant Mangrove snapper, the mangrove snapper, Lutjanus griseus, is a snapper in the family Lutjanidae. It is also known as the gray snapper, mango snapper, or cabellerote, "are now protected under catch limits designed to prevent overfishing"
"fact-based public-opinion polling and other research tools" Mangrove snapper are extremely abundant. Even our bays & close to shore Gulf waters are loaded with them. Off shore such areas as our own Middle Grounds, Elbow, Twin Peak, as well as virtually every ledge, wreck & rocky areas up to around 170 feet are covered with mangos. They are, simply put, extremely abundant! We who actually fish know this. Wonder how much, "fact-based 'impartial' public-opinion polling" Pew used to come to the conclusion that, "Catch limits designed to prevent overfishing," are needed for, "About two dozen species, from black grouper to gray (Mangrove) snapper? Looks like a great deal of, "Other research tools" were used!
" Pew praises approach but says more species should be included. "
I am sure that Pew's, "Other research tools" can, "prove" that grunts, porgy, and even pin fish are over-fished and must be, "protected!"
Bob Harbison Native Florida Recreational fisherman & hunter.


  • Its really funny that Pew called it a "Science Based" fishery management! We have fish with hard limits
    imposed as to their harvest rates, that have no data at all, yet this is called a "Science Based" management.
    I guess their audience will believe what they proclaim, so thats all they are concerned with.

    Still 75% of Fedrally managed fisheries has ZERO data! Data up to a decade old manages the rest, and the
    few stocks with current NOAA data......well look at the GOM and SE Atlantic ARS data, and the NE Cod data,
    certainly not reliable.

    Pew, like EDF has stated on their website that the current science used by NOAA is good, and should not
    be tampered with until it has a 'Chance' to work. This was stated to opposition to the calls by fishermen in support of
    proposed legislation to mandate data in setting catch limits! They prefer No Data, to making Data Required!!!
  • jj lynnjj lynn Posts: 632 Officer
    Sad that it seems we have to just deal with what comes down the pike.
    When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work, because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation!

    "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous
    by letting the American Government
    take care of him;
    better take a closer look at the American Indian."
    Henry Ford
  • harbisonharbison Posts: 5,772 Admiral
    U.S. Commerce Secretary John Bryson’s approval of new catch limits on some species in the Gulf of Mexico
    Guess we can expect big business, big money, and all that it brings, will be the law of the land as long as NOAA is under the Department of Commerce.
    I have been fighting catch shares for years. However, properly used, it could possibly be a real tool in the management of our fisheries. Our fish, or what was once our fish, belong to the American people. Under the Department of Commerce, fish are a commodity to be bought & sold. Enter catch shares under John Bryson & Jane Lubchenco. Enter big $$$, BIG very BIG profits to be realized by the selling us, the American people, back what was once, and should be, ours to begin with, our fish. Can't afford to march down to Walmart & buy a "Share" for the privilege of catching our fish? The solution is really very simple...Don't Fish!" Remember, under Mister Bryson's, Dept. of Commerce, concept of catch shares, no shares no fishing. Catch shares, better known as fishing for only the very rich.
    Possible merit can be seen in the concept of catch shares. However, we must first take the BIG $$$, BIG profit motive away from any type of fishery management, away from catch shares. Fish, our fish, are a national resource to be enjoyed by all Americans; not just the very rich.
    Bob Harbison Native Florida life-long recreational fisherman & hunter

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  • Tom HiltonTom Hilton Posts: 1,595 Captain
    We have the Boat Show starting this weekend in Houston - I am encouraging everyone to seek out the Alaskan fishing guides exhibiting at the show to ask them about their opinion as to what Catch Shares has done to them. Since there is a group of charter captains trying to get Catch Shares / Sector separation implemented here in the Gulf, it should be very informative to hear what the charter captains already fishing under catch Shares have to say about them.

    Capt. Thomas J. Hilton
  • saltybradsaltybrad Posts: 502 Officer
    screw em, Holly is a statist propaganda tool. I've seen it over and over at the "scoping" meetings in Merritt Island. From shutting BSB and now talk of grunts and pinfish???lol what a sham. I eat what the F I want to.
  • harbisonharbison Posts: 5,772 Admiral
    I too am very anxious to hear what the Alaska people have to say about catch shares.
    It is my understanding that some are profiting, while most are starving.
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