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  • Frankee The YankeeFrankee The Yankee Posts: 3,281 Officer
    First of all let me say Rush is an butt hole.

    I know you Libs cant stand him and we know all of the insults and reason you use to discredit him.

    But tell us where he is wrong. Forget who is saying just listn to the words and tell us where he's wrong.

    Liberalism is ruining this nation, everything from the EPA to our public school systems. Liberlism unchecked is ruining this nation just like it has in Detroit.

    Libs do our nation a favor and stay away from the voting booths next November, you are clueless.
  • sailfish2sailfish2 Posts: 4,321 Captain
    “Fast and furious – I am sure you and your audience – you know what that was about? And the emails now prove it. Obama doesn’t have the votes. The American people like the Second Amendment. The Democratic Party has lost the argument, intellectually. So let’s get guns from Arizona gun shops into the hands of drug cartels and wipe people out and spread the news that the guns came from America, which Obama did — he went to Mexico and had conservation with [Mexican President Felipe] Calderón. Those guns came from America. We are supposed to be outraged. We’re supposed to then sign on to gun control. This was an effort around the Second Amendment. That’s what Fast and Furious is, or was.”

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/30/rush-on-how-to-fix-detroit-get-rid-of-every-liberal-in-government/#ixzz1i7SgXJvF

    As long as the libs in charge further their agenda, consequences do not seem matter to them.....
    Hoping for better luck next time...... and got it.

    WINNING!
  • tagtag Posts: 9,871 Admiral
    I'm not a Rush fan and I never listen to him but he is right on in this clip.
  • frankfrank Posts: 13,292 AG
    he is a gop shill and the policies of the gop are the same as the democrats pretty much
    using california is a funny example, wasn't california run by republicans for most of the last 20 years? isn't that where reagan came from?

    wake up frankee they are one and the same
  • beach_tradebeach_trade Posts: 2,040 Captain
    This thread should be titled, Spinning the truth to fit an agenda.

    Michigan has lost one in five jobs, over a million since 1999.

    I'm certain the guys making the decisions to relocate manufacturing jobs elsewhere are not liberal democrats.

    Rush should stick to what he knows best, popping pills.
  • Frankee The YankeeFrankee The Yankee Posts: 3,281 Officer
    You see things as Democrat/Republican. I see things as Liberal/Conservative. Yes Liberals have ruined California and are in the process of ruining many other states as well. Its time to stop with the big govt, cut back on govt workers and their ridiculous pay/benefits, cut back/get rid of the EPA and their business killing rules and regs, its time to start making people responsible for themselves and those that they have created/are responsible for. If you drop out of high school and father/mother 5 kids YOU! take care of them. If you choose to go through life with fancy cars, cell phones, expensive vacations but dont buy health insurance, its your frickin responsibility to pay the hospital bill when you get sick, not mine or anyone lese. Its time we quit with the Liberal "dont worry if you screw up we got your back bs" that encourages everyone to live like they have no responsibility.

    We just need to end liberalism and all will be much better (not perfect)
  • beach_tradebeach_trade Posts: 2,040 Captain
    Liberalism didn't cause over a million jobs to leave Michigan.
  • fins4mefins4me Posts: 14,483 AG
    Liberal policies certainly did. EVERY unnecessary liberal action that adds to the expense and level of difficulty related to conducting business or actually producing something destroys or forces the relocation of a job.
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  • mustang190mustang190 Posts: 10,104 AG
    You see things as Democrat/Republican. I see things as Liberal/Conservative.

    We just need to end liberalism and all will be much better (not perfect)

    Bingo!!
  • mustang190mustang190 Posts: 10,104 AG
    Liberalism didn't cause over a million jobs to leave Michigan.

    Maybe they just got tired of shoveling snow?
  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 30,394 AG
    Fox News....the home of intellectualism. Plainly, he has no idea what is wrong with anything, or how to correct anything or has ever been in government to do anything, but he mixes up a big milkshake of racism and liberalism and some of the posters, without realizing Limbaugh actually said nothing, drink it and order another.

    See Jim Jones Symdrome.
    Vote for the other candidate
  • Frankee The YankeeFrankee The Yankee Posts: 3,281 Officer
    history has shown that liberalism/socialism/communism never works. Our form of govt until recent times has been the best system yet. While not perfect it has brought more people out of poverty, created more wealth and a better standard of living than every prior system combined, yet Liberals keep trying to change that back to systems that everyone knows and history proves wont work.

    Detroit is just a microcosm of what happen when Liberals run things, it is what our whole nation faces of we dont change course back to capatalism and our constitution.
  • dstockwelldstockwell Posts: 13,835 AG
    You see things as Democrat/Republican. I see things as Liberal/Conservative.

    Yet there is no such thing as a Conservative politician, the debt proves it.
    It is not the responsibility of the United States to solve the problems of other countries.
  • dstockwelldstockwell Posts: 13,835 AG
    it is what our whole nation faces of we dont change course back to capatalism and our constitution.

    You won't get that with Romney.
    It is not the responsibility of the United States to solve the problems of other countries.
  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 30,394 AG
    history has shown that liberalism/socialism/communism never works. Our form of govt until recent times has been the best system yet. While not perfect it has brought more people out of poverty, created more wealth and a better standard of living than every prior system combined, yet Liberals keep trying to change that back to systems that everyone knows and history proves wont work.

    Detroit is just a microcosm of what happen when Liberals run things, it is what our whole nation faces of we dont change course back to capatalism and our constitution.

    More proof that you fail to grasp the issues, problems, and take the easy way out. Always point the finger at someone else.
    Vote for the other candidate
  • dstockwelldstockwell Posts: 13,835 AG
    history has shown that liberalism/socialism/communism never works. Our form of govt until recent times has been the best system yet.

    No doubt, the last 11 years have been a disaster.
    It is not the responsibility of the United States to solve the problems of other countries.
  • Frankee The YankeeFrankee The Yankee Posts: 3,281 Officer
    dstockwell wrote: »
    You won't get that with Romney.
    It will be better than letting Obama be in charge for another 4 years.
  • Frankee The YankeeFrankee The Yankee Posts: 3,281 Officer
    dstockwell wrote: »
    No doubt, the last 11 years have been a disaster.
    So Obama is trying to take us back to the spending, rules and regs of 11 years ago? or is he doubling down on spending and pushing us even closer to socialism?
  • dstockwelldstockwell Posts: 13,835 AG
    He's just following the previous admins ways. Spend, bailout, spend, and warmongering.
    It is not the responsibility of the United States to solve the problems of other countries.
  • Frankee The YankeeFrankee The Yankee Posts: 3,281 Officer
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    More proof that you fail to grasp the issues, problems, and take the easy way out. Always point the finger at someone else.
    Really???

    Big issues,

    Debt - Obama is outspending anyone before him combined.

    Illegal imigration - Well just look at his attacks on any state tryong to do something about the problem.

    Jobs - not one thing he has done to help job growth other than spend money our govt/we dont have.

    Energy independence - not one thing to help, and even worse than that has made ot even harder for our nation to acquire and use its own resources.

    There are many more but those are some of the biggies. And dont take my list as any type of endorsement of Bush or anyone before him. Its just obviuos that Obama is the worst one yet. Voting for Obama is like voting for Charlie Manson because the other guy is a criminal guilty of stealing a candy bar.
  • Frankee The YankeeFrankee The Yankee Posts: 3,281 Officer
    dstockwell wrote: »
    He's just following the previous admins ways. Spend, bailout, spend, and warmongering.
    So why would anyone vote for him again??
  • dstockwelldstockwell Posts: 13,835 AG
    Don't know, and that's why Romney is not the right answer either, he would be another mistake.
    It is not the responsibility of the United States to solve the problems of other countries.
  • Frankee The YankeeFrankee The Yankee Posts: 3,281 Officer
    dstockwell wrote: »
    Don't know, and that's why Romney is not the right answer either, he would be another mistake.
    So we actaully have another choice that can win???

    I think Romney with a Tea Party led congress/senate (while not great) would be a giant step in the right direction.

    As much as many of us would like, were not getting our dream team and captain this next election.
  • dstockwelldstockwell Posts: 13,835 AG
    with a Tea Party led congress/senate (while not great) would be a giant step in the right direction.

    That dream is not going to happen. No one in the TP has been in Congress long enough to take over a leadership role. The House will still have Boehner, and the Senate will still be DEM's.
    It is not the responsibility of the United States to solve the problems of other countries.
  • stsimonsstsimons Posts: 7,292 Admiral
    One thing you can count on from liberals... the problems are always the result of anything - but their policies :huh Democrats often seem to be totally unaware of the fact that their policy decisions don't exist in a vacuum.
  • frankfrank Posts: 13,292 AG
    history has shown that liberalism/socialism/communism never works. Our form of govt until recent times has been the best system yet. While not perfect it has brought more people out of poverty, created more wealth and a better standard of living than every prior system combined, yet Liberals keep trying to change that back to systems that everyone knows and history proves wont work.

    Detroit is just a microcosm of what happen when Liberals run things, it is what our whole nation faces of we dont change course back to capatalism and our constitution.
    our country was founded by liberals (liberalism)
    the term has been corrupted

    back to the ot, limbuagh is nothing but a gop shill and wants folks to keep doing what we have been for the past 60 years and buy into the rhetoric that if you vote for the republican candidate as opposed to the democrat there will be a difference
  • riverdiverriverdiver Posts: 2,032 Captain
    frank wrote: »
    he is a gop shill and the policies of the gop are the same as the democrats pretty much
    using california is a funny example, wasn't california run by republicans for most of the last 20 years? isn't that where reagan came from?

    Actually, since Reagan left office in 75 California has had 3 Republican Governors and 3 Democratic Governors.

    Cali's problems extend far past the Governor's office, their problems start at the local and state levels. To be fair to Arnold, even though he left office as a shell of what he was, he at least made an effort to change things...but he was overridden by opposition from the left.

    You are correct in that many cases, policies of the right and left aren't that much different.
  • Mister-JrMister-Jr Posts: 30,394 AG
    Really???

    Big issues,

    Debt - Obama is outspending anyone before him combined.

    If you bothered to check, many of the spending issues are a result of the hand he was given. First, a recession that drained tax revenues, two ulta expensive wars, the trillion dollar Medicare drug benefit handed to him by the last adminstration, and depressed or recessed Euro Zone, none of which he had anything to do with. When he was seated he passed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the true cost of not to known for 10 years or more, the stimulus, which doled out millions to cities, counties, and States to pay their bills and payroll in a collapsing economy, welfare and healthcare to people that lost their job, a problen he did cause, and bailed out GM at the cost of bondholder and tax payers, buy saved a million US jobs when unemployment was 9%.


    Illegal imigration - Well just look at his attacks on any state tryong to do something about the problem.

    Deported more illegals (400,0000) in two years, more than Bush did in eight.

    Jobs - not one thing he has done to help job growth other than spend money our govt/we dont have.

    The government doesn't create jobs, but the economy and umemployment have improved under his adminstration

    Energy independence - not one thing to help, and even worse than that has made ot even harder for our nation to acquire and use its own resources.

    How?

    There are many more but those are some of the biggies. And dont take my list as any type of endorsement of Bush or anyone before him. Its just obviuos that Obama is the worst one yet. Voting for Obama is like voting for Charlie Manson because the other guy is a criminal guilty of stealing a candy bar.

    I'm am voting for Obama AGAIN. Your last paragraph is funny as you kissed Bush's rear end when he was in office. Now that it is obvious he screwed the pooch, you run from him.
    Vote for the other candidate
  • Bimini TwistedBimini Twisted Posts: 11,443 AG
    Mister-Jr wrote: »
    I'm am voting for Obama AGAIN. Your last paragraph is funny as you kissed Bush's rear end when he was in office. Now that it is obvious he screwed the pooch, you run from him.

    Me too and he will win, again.
  • riverdiverriverdiver Posts: 2,032 Captain
    To be fair, the only difference I've seen between Obama and Bush is that spending's just higher. Many of the same people who constantly blasted Bush now support Obama when he follows the same policies, and vice versa.

    It also should be noted that Obama's "increased deportation levels" aren't exactly true. To share credit on both sides, Border Patrol funding and manpower started to climb at the end of Bush's term, so Obama benefitted from that. Plus, the way the numbers of deportations were figured have been altered...now, if you're caught at the border before entering the country and sent back, that counts as a "deportation". As a country, we've actually begun cutting back on deporting "run of the mill" illegals here... http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/08/obama-administration-halts-deportations-of-non-criminal-immigrants/

    Critics of either side have their own points they can make on any issue. Those in favor of kicking immigrants out would point to Obama's Aunt and Uncle, and suggest starting there....others would point out that illegals in many cases are either doing jobs that other people wouldn't, or they have a strong work ethic that many here don't have...while another group may point out that some employers are simply taking advantage of cheap labor.

    As usual, the truth's somewhere in the middle.
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