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  • GardawgGardawg Senior Member IslamoradaPosts: 16,390 AG


    simple solutions to avoid tracking ... don't carry a phone
    "Forgiveness is a strange thing. It can be sometimes easier to forgive our enemies than our friends. It can be hardest of all to forgive people we love." Fred Rogers  
  • conchydongconchydong Senior Member Posts: 13,959 AG
    I always "forget" to take my phone with me when I run errands. Pizzes the wife off but I am forgetful. What can I say.

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • stc1993stc1993 Senior Member Posts: 10,408 AG
    I do the same thing Conchy,  Many a time I wish I had it.
  • madm002madm002 Junior Member Posts: 210 Deckhand
    I'm in the IT business by day, and (arguably?) in the top ten scientists around here, and I'm not happy either....but I'm not about to give up my iPhone over it.

    I'm curious as to your thought process here, @madm002 .  Why are you going back to an old phone?  Certainly you're not under the impression that you can't be tracked with a regular cellphone, so it seems to me to be a privacy concern of some type.  But why?  What is it that really causes you concern?  Is it tangible or is it more fundamental/idealistic?  

    To be clear, I'm probably among the biggest advocates around here for the privacy of data.  Fundamentally, I'm of the opinion that users should own all their own data and be required to consent (or, without functional ramifications, not) in how it's used/shared/sold, so please don't mistake my questions as an argument against your position, but rather I'm curious as to your rationale in making that decision.

    Thanks....Mike
    You are correct Brother Mike, that the tech exists to track you on a normal GSM device with 2G technology.  But it is a lot harder and not as data rich for Big Tech.  I am not a Luddite by any stretch but maybe I am just sad about my participation for 25 years in this industry that has created so many addictions, so many traffic accidents, so much road rage.  There are other solutions for a smart phone that is off the grid, thinking about that.  Meanwhile I don't want google knowing exactly where I have been, what I searched, FB selling the same data, and wait until you start getting targeted SMS that are geo-located, so you are on TMO and near this GPS point you get an email from the store to come on in for a special sale price.
  • conchydongconchydong Senior Member Posts: 13,959 AG
    Just a matter of time that TV commercials in your house will be geared towards what you googled on your computer.

    “Everyone behaves badly--given the chance.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  • Bimini_TwistedBimini_Twisted TampaPosts: 7,276 Admiral
    Just a matter of time that TV commercials in your house will be geared towards what you googled on your computer.
    Beacons use NFC to know when your looking at a product on the shelf and offer you a discount or coupon instantly in the store, or target you later.

    I really don't mind ad tech as the ads target my interests, and it beats getting tampon ads.
  • restlessnativerestlessnative Senior Member Tampa/Mason Creek/DamficarePosts: 3,053 Captain
    Just a matter of time that TV commercials in your house will be geared towards what you googled on your computer.
    Beacons use NFC to know when your looking at a product on the shelf and offer you a discount or coupon instantly in the store, or target you later.

    I really don't mind ad tech as the ads target my interests, and it beats getting tampon ads.
    Hurtful reminder you’ve been through the change and don’t need them anymore  :p 
  • TarponatorTarponator Senior Member Under a BridgePosts: 19,741 AG
    edited October 2022 #39
    Is targeted advertising (or easily blocked SMS messages) reason enough to stop using a smartphone?

    Not for me, it's not...but YMMV.

    @madm002 , thank you for your thoughtful response.
  • stc1993stc1993 Senior Member Posts: 10,408 AG
    I've never got any ads like that for feminine products.

    That I can remember.
  • BallaCoiPersiciBallaCoiPersici Senior Member NW Italy (Laveno Mombello)Posts: 8,384 Admiral
    edited October 2022 #42
    madm002 said:
    I'm in the IT business by day, and (arguably?) in the top ten scientists around here, and I'm not happy either....but I'm not about to give up my iPhone over it.

    I'm curious as to your thought process here, @madm002 .  Why are you going back to an old phone?  Certainly you're not under the impression that you can't be tracked with a regular cellphone, so it seems to me to be a privacy concern of some type.  But why?  What is it that really causes you concern?  Is it tangible or is it more fundamental/idealistic?  

    To be clear, I'm probably among the biggest advocates around here for the privacy of data.  Fundamentally, I'm of the opinion that users should own all their own data and be required to consent (or, without functional ramifications, not) in how it's used/shared/sold, so please don't mistake my questions as an argument against your position, but rather I'm curious as to your rationale in making that decision.

    Thanks....Mike
    You are correct Brother Mike, that the tech exists to track you on a normal GSM device with 2G technology.  But it is a lot harder and not as data rich for Big Tech.  I am not a Luddite by any stretch but maybe I am just sad about my participation for 25 years in this industry that has created so many addictions, so many traffic accidents, so much road rage.  There are other solutions for a smart phone that is off the grid, thinking about that.  Meanwhile I don't want google knowing exactly where I have been, what I searched, FB selling the same data, and wait until you start getting targeted SMS that are geo-located, so you are on TMO and near this GPS point you get an email from the store to come on in for a special sale price.
    You simply did what you were payed for, no blames on individuals.
    It's like a soldier involved in a wrong war. He does his duty, not his blame if the war is wrong. 
    And like for the war are leaders who drive in business is the board who drives. The common point of political leaders and boards of directors in millions companies is their owner, that is exactly the same.
    With some exception in both cases, of course. But are exceptions that the current crooked world is trying to cancel in any way. 

    On topic I know what you are speaking about. And I agree with you. But try to turn off (example) FB and you will lynched not by the slaves owner but by the slaves themselves...
    Massimo (former Ballak) - Please, be patient for my English
    ********************************************************************************************************************************
    I'm typing keeping close my "pasta hole"!
    Political correctness is a mental disease that can put you in slavery. The only cure is to turn on the brain.
    Not my blame if you do something that matches what I don't like.
    Vulgus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur
  • joelunchbucketjoelunchbucket Posts: 2,447 Captain
    The paranoia is palpable. 
    True.

    Some are still em wearing their masks while they drive a car with no passengers.

    Afraid they will get themselves sick, I suppose🤣
  • ferris1248ferris1248 Moderator Posts: 25,080 Moderator
    The paranoia is palpable. 
    True.

    Some are still em wearing their masks while they drive a car with no passengers.

    Afraid they will get themselves sick, I suppose🤣
    Probably so.  

    I saw a guy on a motorcycle wearing one the other day.  :)

    They are about as bat.... crazy as those who think covid was nothing more than a plot by the NWO to take over the world.  

    The whole deal is probably somewhere in-between. 




    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."

    Rabbi Hillel (c20 BCE)

  • BallaCoiPersiciBallaCoiPersici Senior Member NW Italy (Laveno Mombello)Posts: 8,384 Admiral
    edited October 2022 #45
    The paranoia is palpable. 
    True.

    Some are still em wearing their masks while they drive a car with no passengers.

    Afraid they will get themselves sick, I suppose🤣
    Probably so.  

    I saw a guy on a motorcycle wearing one the other day.  :)

    They are about as bat.... crazy as those who think covid was nothing more than a plot by the NWO to take over the world.  

    The whole deal is probably somewhere in-between. 



    Agree.
    10% of a not common (and more dangerous than usual) flu and 90% of narrative, terrorism, censorship, propaganda, fake science, na.zi laws, etc. to support sneaky (criminal) political/economical/social interests.
    “Never waste a crisis” at the state of the art.
    Massimo (former Ballak) - Please, be patient for my English
    ********************************************************************************************************************************
    I'm typing keeping close my "pasta hole"!
    Political correctness is a mental disease that can put you in slavery. The only cure is to turn on the brain.
    Not my blame if you do something that matches what I don't like.
    Vulgus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur
  • GardawgGardawg Senior Member IslamoradaPosts: 16,390 AG
    Masks have multiple uses.

    Like filtering the air while riding in traffic.

    Makes perfect sense to wear a mask on a motorcycle.

    The diesel smoke alone is enough to warrant it.

    What kind of a noodle brain doesn't realize that?
    "Forgiveness is a strange thing. It can be sometimes easier to forgive our enemies than our friends. It can be hardest of all to forgive people we love." Fred Rogers  
  • ferris1248ferris1248 Moderator Posts: 25,080 Moderator
    Gardawg said:
    Masks have multiple uses.

    Like filtering the air while riding in traffic.

    Makes perfect sense to wear a mask on a motorcycle.

    The diesel smoke alone is enough to warrant it.

    What kind of a noodle brain doesn't realize that?
    Well crap!

    I never thought about the diesel smoke.

    I guess I'm a "noodle brain".  :)  

    (Remember you can't post other's posts with posting the entire quote.)  :)

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."

    Rabbi Hillel (c20 BCE)

  • GardawgGardawg Senior Member IslamoradaPosts: 16,390 AG
    That was a response to what you posted.  Not a quote. IMO ... yeah, I know what that's worth.
    "Forgiveness is a strange thing. It can be sometimes easier to forgive our enemies than our friends. It can be hardest of all to forgive people we love." Fred Rogers  
  • ferris1248ferris1248 Moderator Posts: 25,080 Moderator
    I know. I was referring to others who will have a fun time quoting me being a "noodle brain".. :)

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."

    Rabbi Hillel (c20 BCE)

  • cadmancadman Senior Member Posts: 43,169 AG
    edited October 2022 #50
    I know guys who wore masks while riding long before covid. I thought it was so the cops couldn't I.D. them later when they took off when the blue lights came on. 

    Former Mini Mart Magnate

    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • stc1993stc1993 Senior Member Posts: 10,408 AG
    I never did anything different during the pandemic.  I did wear a mask when I had too.

    I took my wife to the doctor Monday.  They no longer make you wear one.
  • dave44dave44 Senior Member Chesterfield, Va.Posts: 18,749 AG
    madm002 said:
    I'm in the IT business by day, and (arguably?) in the top ten scientists around here, and I'm not happy either....but I'm not about to give up my iPhone over it.

    I'm curious as to your thought process here, @madm002 .  Why are you going back to an old phone?  Certainly you're not under the impression that you can't be tracked with a regular cellphone, so it seems to me to be a privacy concern of some type.  But why?  What is it that really causes you concern?  Is it tangible or is it more fundamental/idealistic?  

    To be clear, I'm probably among the biggest advocates around here for the privacy of data.  Fundamentally, I'm of the opinion that users should own all their own data and be required to consent (or, without functional ramifications, not) in how it's used/shared/sold, so please don't mistake my questions as an argument against your position, but rather I'm curious as to your rationale in making that decision.

    Thanks....Mike
    You are correct Brother Mike, that the tech exists to track you on a normal GSM device with 2G technology.  But it is a lot harder and not as data rich for Big Tech.  I am not a Luddite by any stretch but maybe I am just sad about my participation for 25 years in this industry that has created so many addictions, so many traffic accidents, so much road rage.  There are other solutions for a smart phone that is off the grid, thinking about that.  Meanwhile I don't want google knowing exactly where I have been, what I searched, FB selling the same data, and wait until you start getting targeted SMS that are geo-located, so you are on TMO and near this GPS point you get an email from the store to come on in for a special sale price.
     What do you think of cellular signal boosters? I have a house in a very rural place and my reception is terrible.
  • supratentorialsupratentorial FLPosts: 2,791 Captain
    Have you tried weboost?  It works great for us.  
    30 or 90 day money back guarantee, you can't lose.
  • dave44dave44 Senior Member Chesterfield, Va.Posts: 18,749 AG
    Have you tried weboost?  It works great for us.  
    30 or 90 day money back guarantee, you can't lose.
    Thanks, I’ll look into it.
        A “MIFI” is our cheapest source of internet too, but if we are lucky it’s 2 bars of lte.
  • Big BatteryBig Battery Senior Member Central NCPosts: 22,820 AG
    Gardawg said:
    Masks have multiple uses.

    Like filtering the air while riding in traffic.

    Makes perfect sense to wear a mask on a motorcycle.

    The diesel smoke alone is enough to warrant it.

    What kind of a noodle brain doesn't realize that?

    Lol..  Unless it is an N95, they are worthless for anything but splatter.
  • supratentorialsupratentorial FLPosts: 2,791 Captain
    dave44 said:
    Have you tried weboost?  It works great for us.  
    30 or 90 day money back guarantee, you can't lose.
    Thanks, I’ll look into it.
        A “MIFI” is our cheapest source of internet too, but if we are lucky it’s 2 bars of lte.
    I'm getting 29.3 mbps right now with weboost and hotspot with 3 bars lte/4G.
    My wife works from home as a data manager/programmer and runs her network on hotspot with no problems. 
    Streaming will burn up hotspot data but easily remedied by streaming on cell data.

  • GardawgGardawg Senior Member IslamoradaPosts: 16,390 AG
    Gardawg said:
    Masks have multiple uses.

    Like filtering the air while riding in traffic.

    Makes perfect sense to wear a mask on a motorcycle.

    The diesel smoke alone is enough to warrant it.

    What kind of a noodle brain doesn't realize that?

    Lol..  Unless it is an N95, they are worthless for anything but splatter.

    You are wrong. 

    How many motorcycles have you worn out?
    "Forgiveness is a strange thing. It can be sometimes easier to forgive our enemies than our friends. It can be hardest of all to forgive people we love." Fred Rogers  
  • CaptJCaptJ Senior Member Key Largo (Mostly)/Miami(As little as possible)Posts: 1,893 Captain
    Anybody worried about what Alexa hears around the house?
  • fishinbugfishinbug Senior Member Posts: 803 Officer
    Probably so.  

    I saw a guy on a motorcycle wearing one the other day.  :)

    They are about as bat.... crazy as those who think covid was nothing more than a plot by the NWO to take over the world.  

    The whole deal is probably somewhere in-between. 



    Love bug filters.

  • kellerclkellercl Senior Member Posts: 12,783 AG
    CaptJ said:
    Anybody worried about what Alexa hears around the house?
    Yes.  I don't want it in the house, but I lost that battle with the wife.
    #Lead beakerhead specialist 

    "Soul of the mind, key to life's ether. Soul of the lost, withdrawn from its vessel. Let strength be granted, so the world might be mended. So the world might be mended."
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