Lots of both. Went out to 4 mile yesterday with mullet hoping for an early king. Not even a sniff. Lots of big turtles. Dropped some bait to the bottom and one big bluefish and 6ft hammerhead. Not really what I was after. Came back to the beach around 10am. Pogies everywhere. Every pod surrounded by Spanish mackerel. Put on a small minnow plug and had a ball. Kept 10. Released a lot more. Got hot and came home. Pogies on the small side.