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  • FloridahuntFloridahunt Palm BeachPosts: 300 Deckhand
    Used to see them them on 27 going to clewiston every day before they cut the trees down on the other side of the dike.
  • joelunchbucketjoelunchbucket Posts: 2,471 Captain
    You can see caracaras more than an hour north of Hwy 60 pretty commonly, if you’re looking in the right type of habitat. 
  • joelunchbucketjoelunchbucket Posts: 2,471 Captain
    My bet would be that the calf was dead before the eagles showed up. 
  • Jstubby2Jstubby2 Junior Member Lat -90 Long +90 👍Posts: 881 Officer
    I hope BF doesn't  see that picture,  he will want to breed it with one of his dino birds. Nice shot Is that a cell phone picture. Where was that picture taken?
  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Senior Member OcalaPosts: 4,847 Captain
    Jstubby2 said:
    I hope BF doesn't  see that picture,  he will want to breed it with one of his dino birds. Nice shot Is that a cell phone picture. Where was that picture taken?


    Caracaras, wild turkeys, and extinct terror birds, are what I’m modeling my birds on. 
  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Senior Member OcalaPosts: 4,847 Captain
    Also roadrunners and secretary birds. 
  • swampdogswampdog Central FloridaPosts: 4,919 Captain
    Be sure to post a pic of that rooster when he’s full grown BF. Interesting for sure.
  • Jstubby2Jstubby2 Junior Member Lat -90 Long +90 👍Posts: 881 Officer
    Yea, I noticed the body type is about what you have. Don't guess they could produce off spring though?
  • meateatermeateater south flaPosts: 1,243 Officer
    It is all fun and games until the Caracara birds show up....

    Then everyone steps aside as if Danny Trejo walked into the room.


    antonia banderas and george clooney both kicked danny trejos ****.
  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Senior Member OcalaPosts: 4,847 Captain
    Jstubby2 said:
    Yea, I noticed the body type is about what you have. Don't guess they could produce off spring though?
    No they shouldn’t be genetically compatible. They they come from two unrelated families of birds.

    I can indeed cross multiple species and make fertile offspring so long as they come from the same family. Turkeys, guineas, chickens, quail, peacocks, partridge, grouse, pheasants, and a few others, all are basically different forms of the same bird, and as such can generally be crossed and make fertile offspring. Some families of gamefowl have pheasant in them. And that’s all I’m saying…  ;)
  • Jstubby2Jstubby2 Junior Member Lat -90 Long +90 👍Posts: 881 Officer
    Back to the OP. Eagles are opertunist, I have seen them on road kill in G'Ville several times & have seen them  bully osprey to drop ther fish & usually catch it before it hits the water or ground. I've also seen them in open pasture feeding on something. I have never seen them kill their own dinner.
  • meateatermeateater south flaPosts: 1,243 Officer
    meateater said:
    It is all fun and games until the Caracara birds show up....

    Then everyone steps aside as if Danny Trejo walked into the room.


    antonia banderas and george clooney both kicked danny trejos ****.

    And as usual.... you are wrong in all ways.... you said...antonia..... It is Antonio....

    LMAO.......
    someones got a man crush.
  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Senior Member OcalaPosts: 4,847 Captain
    edited December 2021 #45


    Here’s your scavenger/fish eater at work. He took this American game stag this morning I had been raising for 9 months for a breeding project. The stag was a larger bird than my Crackers and wasn’t as agile. Any time I leave a young, large body, bright red, rooster in the flock that’s what the eagles key in on. It thwarts my ability to raise the size of my Crackers. Natural selection is favoring the smaller bodied ones the eagles can’t catch. 

    Over the last 2 months I’ve lost 3 turkeys and now this stag to the eagles. Over the past year I’ve lost 3 or 4 chickens to them, one of them being a nice Cracker rooster I had high hopes for. 
  • Jstubby2Jstubby2 Junior Member Lat -90 Long +90 👍Posts: 881 Officer
    That's not an eagle it a chicken hawk!
  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Senior Member OcalaPosts: 4,847 Captain
    edited December 2021 #47
    Jstubby2 said:
    That's not an eagle it a chicken hawk!
    That was an immature bald eagle. Wing span was as wide as I am tall. Large or larger than a turkey vulture and twice as big as a red tailed hawk. 
  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Senior Member OcalaPosts: 4,847 Captain


    I was filming through a dirty window and porch screen. For scale, the grey turkey hen in the bottom right is somewhere between 15-20lbs. Zoomed it you can barely make out the big hooked beak that’s unique to an eagle. 
  • swampdogswampdog Central FloridaPosts: 4,919 Captain
    I was thinking it was an immature Bald Eagle. The build and tail with folded wings is eagle. 
  • joelunchbucketjoelunchbucket Posts: 2,471 Captain
    FB, I think you might have missed Stubby’s sarcasm. 
  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Senior Member OcalaPosts: 4,847 Captain
    swampdog said:
    I was thinking it was an immature Bald Eagle. The build and tail with folded wings is eagle. 
    This eagle has been growing up eating my chickens. When it started around a year ago it was solid black with a black beak. Now its getting lots of white on it and its beak is changing color. 
  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Senior Member OcalaPosts: 4,847 Captain
    FB, I think you might have missed Stubby’s sarcasm. 
    Wouldn’t be the first time something has went over my head. 
  • JonsredfishinJonsredfishin Senior Member Posts: 3,020 Captain
    Jstubby2 said:
    That's not an eagle it a chicken hawk!

    That no chicken hawk, this is a chicken hawk!


    One president put a man on the moon.
    Another president put a man in the Lady's bathroom.
  • Tony RomaTony Roma Senior Member Posts: 3,915 Captain
    Can you shoot a bird of prey if it’s killing your livestock, depredation permits like for farmers and deer?
  • TerribleTedTerribleTed Senior Member Posts: 352 Deckhand
    edited December 2021 #55
    Seen an Eagle chase the buzzards off dead armadillo. Its called survival of the fittest something Americans don't have to deal with. Like turning your nose up at fresh road kill. Or better not eating something because it doesn't taste good- just means you are not hungry enough. Think about it. 

  • Florida BullfrogFlorida Bullfrog Senior Member OcalaPosts: 4,847 Captain
    edited December 2021 #56
    Tony Roma said:
    Can you shoot a bird of prey if it’s killing your livestock, depredation permits like for farmers and deer?
    No, birds of prey are totally protected. There is a mechanism to get depredation permits for birds of prey but in practicality the Feds don’t actually issue them. Technically you’re not even allowed to harass an eagle with non-lethal means. 

    There are some shepherd-type dog breeds from central Asia that specialize in killing eagles, where farmers there have terrible problems with golden eagles attacking large livestock. I know a guy who breeds some I may reach out to. I don’t think the Feds can do anything to stop a free range dog from catching an eagle or hawk by the dog’s own volition. 
  • Tony RomaTony Roma Senior Member Posts: 3,915 Captain
    Sounds similar to the dogs at the airport that run the geese and cranes off, they must catch one every now and then. 
  • Jstubby2Jstubby2 Junior Member Lat -90 Long +90 👍Posts: 881 Officer
    Yea, I was messing with you, been birdwatching since my teens. Dead Chicken.... Hawk in the neighborhood.... must be a chicken hawk. Size alone is a good field guide. When flying, wings are flat, buzzards are V, Osprey are an inverted W.
    Lighten up BF, remember tis the season!
  • Jstubby2Jstubby2 Junior Member Lat -90 Long +90 👍Posts: 881 Officer
    FB, I think you might have missed Stubby’s sarcasm. 
    I like to think of it as Bob. Newhart humor. (FB?)
  • TerribleTedTerribleTed Senior Member Posts: 352 Deckhand
    This just reminded me of a day on the St Johns Rounding thru on the edge of one of the lakes on it. I tap my buds should and point, its a cow floating legs up. Its moving?  Then all of a sudden out pops a flock of buzzards. I guess it was a cruise ship till someone pokes a hole thru the skin. 

  • conchydongconchydong Senior Member Posts: 13,988 AG
    edited January 2022 #61
    Here is a live camera of an Eagle on her nest in Dade County. Supposedly she had two eggs hatch over the weekend. If so, she must be sitting on the hatchlings, I haven't seen them yet.

    .Bald Eagle Cam (zoomiami.org)


    Edit: Just saw her feeding them.

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