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Invasive fish in swamp..

this one was on my 4 wheeler running board after I went thru 16 inches of water. This place is a pine plantation with lots of Wetland areas about 3 miles from wacasassa river but no creeks connecting to it that I know of.  This appears to be a armored catfish but not a Pleco. I used to bow fish up to 10 years ago and have shot lots of Plecos. Where this one was truly shows how invasive they are. 

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  • tankeredtankered Gainesvill, FlPosts: 1,088 Officer
    Brown hoplo.

    They are everywhere.
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 4,424 Captain
    edited September 14 #3
    Florida has serious problems with invasives. - not only fish but also plants, birds and seemingly everything else…
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  • RobertRRobertR Posts: 360 Deckhand
    I just saw a video of a guy cast netting some at the creek off of 315 at Rodman Reservoir, one throw got him about 20 or more? of these fish. 
  • tankeredtankered Gainesvill, FlPosts: 1,088 Officer
    Florida has serious problems with invasives. - not only fish but also plants, birds and seemingly everything else…

    Let's face it....WE are invasive, and wherever we go, stuff follows us. 

    If the environment suits it, species will become established. Not just here, worldwide. 
  • chunksterchunkster NYC NY - HOLLYWOOD FLPosts: 141 Deckhand
    Definitely a Pleco, mainly found in a area with a algae bloom issue.
    Not recommended to eat any type of fish from those waters. Plecos
    can also be destructive to habit. In a happy balance. The gators
    should control the population. Open season for gator boots. ;)
  • tankeredtankered Gainesvill, FlPosts: 1,088 Officer
    Nope. Wrong. Not a pleco, it's a brown hoplo.

    Pay attention.
  • chunksterchunkster NYC NY - HOLLYWOOD FLPosts: 141 Deckhand
    I can’t afford it. But there’s so much more. Let me go and ask the salutatorian. 



    What is the real name for armored catfish?
    Hoplosternum littorale
    Hoplosternum littorale (armoured catfish)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loricariidae

    Members of the family Loricariidae are commonly referred to as loricariids, suckermouth armoured catfishes, or armoured catfish.[4] The name "plecostomus", and its shortened forms "pleco" and "plec", are used for many Loricariidae, since Plecostomus plecostomus (now called Hypostomus plecostomus) was one of the first loricariid species imported for the fish-keeping hobby.[5]

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    What I always want to be. A ornithologist.


    Who said if it looks like a duck? Or mallard, possibly a hen.
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    James Whitcomb Riley
    Indiana poet James Whitcomb Riley (1849–1916) may have coined the phrase when he wrote: When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck.
  • tankeredtankered Gainesvill, FlPosts: 1,088 Officer
    You're strange. Claim to know nothing and everything at the same time.

    Bottom line, that fish is NOT what is commonly known as a plecostomus.
  • FlashFlash Posts: 11,618 AG
    tankered said:
    You're strange. Claim to know nothing and everything at the same time.

    Bottom line, that fish is NOT what is commonly known as a plecostomus.

    But i assume the Pleco is just short for Plecostomus?
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  • chunksterchunkster NYC NY - HOLLYWOOD FLPosts: 141 Deckhand
    What is the difference between a donkey and a mule?
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    Donkeys are descended from the African wild ****. They were likely first bred around 5,000 years ago in Egypt or Mesopotamia. A mule, on the other hand, is a hybrid animal. ... A male horse and a female donkey (a "jenny" or "jennet") produce a "hinny." A hinny is just slightly smaller than a mule but otherwise similar.
  • tankeredtankered Gainesvill, FlPosts: 1,088 Officer
    Flash said:
    tankered said:
    You're strange. Claim to know nothing and everything at the same time.

    Bottom line, that fish is NOT what is commonly known as a plecostomus.

    But i assume the Pleco is just short for Plecostomus?

    Yes. And both them and the hoplo are armored catfish but completely different species.

    I'm not sure what point this weirdo is trying to make but the fish in the OP is a hoplo. Definitely not a pleco, as he claimed. 
  • chunksterchunkster NYC NY - HOLLYWOOD FLPosts: 141 Deckhand
  • LostconchLostconch Posts: 1,004 Officer
    I don't care what you call them they are a pain in the tass to get out of a cast net 
  • jt904jt904 Central FloridaPosts: 116 Deckhand
    Ya they're all over the place. Ive seen hundreds of them in ponds in orlando 
    176 Key West Stealth 
  • AlwaysLearningMoreAlwaysLearningMore Posts: 194 Deckhand
    I'm pretty sure that the OP's fish is a brown hoplo.  Definitely does not look like a "Pleco".  But at the risk of muddying the waters on this topic even more, most of the fish that are reported as Pleco's are truly not Pleco's, since Plecostomus are actually not common in most of Florida.  Other similar species of suckermouth catfish are much more common and are usually misidentified as pleco.
  • chunksterchunkster NYC NY - HOLLYWOOD FLPosts: 141 Deckhand
    it’s a armored catfish.

    Origin: France
    Caviar is a food consisting of salt-cured roe of the family Acipenseridae. Caviar is considered a delicacy and is eaten as a garnish or a spread. Traditionally, the term caviar refers only to roe from wild sturgeon in the Caspian Sea and Black Sea.
  • tankeredtankered Gainesvill, FlPosts: 1,088 Officer
    No. It's AN armored catfish.

    Getting closer though.
  • chunksterchunkster NYC NY - HOLLYWOOD FLPosts: 141 Deckhand
    I beg to differ.

    Use “a” before words that start with a consonant sound and “an” before words that start with a vowel sound. Other letters can also be pronounced either way. Just remember it is the sound that governs whether you use “a” or “an,” not the actual first letter of the word.

    It starts with a vowel but sounds with a consonant start. verstehen?
    The a is silent. Just like in the word park. ;)
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