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  • YnotjaxYnotjax Posts: 575 Officer
    Trucking restrictions in California is impacting getting containers out of the ports.  All trucks must be 2011 and newer, in addition union rules states you can’t be a owner operator.  

    Mark has some great ideas.
  • 4drinkmin4drinkmin The BarPosts: 881 Officer
    Cali strikes again

    The trucking issue with California LA ports, ie the Port of Los Angeles (POLA) and the Port of Long Beach (POLB), is that all semi tractors have to be current with new California emissions standards. As a consequence, that mean trucks cannot be older than 3 years if they are to pick up or deliver containers at those ports. This issue wipes out approximately half of the fleet trucks used to move containers in/out of the port. Operating the port 24/7 will not cure the issue, because all it does is pile up more containers that sit idle as they await a limited number of trucks to pick them up. THIS is the central issue.

    On October 16, 2020, the EPA reached a settlement agreement [[url=https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/us-epa-settles-three-companies-over-violations-californias-trucking-pollution]DATA HERE] with California Air Resource Board (CARB) to shut down semi tractor rigs that were non-compliant with new California emission standards.
  • 2amigo2amigo Posts: 7,353 Admiral
    edited October 16 #244
    Cali is really f'ed up overall.  My son (oldest) me tells about everyday. 
  • dave44dave44 Posts: 15,153 AG
    No no no, I’ve heard it’s all the pent up demand from being locked down in 2020. 
        Nothing else could possibly explain it.
  • ferris1248ferris1248 Posts: 16,709 Moderator
    2amigo said:
    Cali is really f'ed up overall.  My son (oldest) me tells about everyday. 
    There will be a backlash. There always is. Whether it's someone being voted out of office to the brightest and the best fleeing high prices, high taxes, home prices out the roof, and ridiculous policies, people will get fed up and go. You are seeing more and more states benefitting from Cali's intransigence.  

    The state is a tremendous economic engine but they can't continue without citizens paying taxes.

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."

    Rabbi Hillel (c20 BCE)

  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 18,136 AG
    California emissions are the cause of the backup?  lol. Someone should to tell Fox News:

    Cargo piles up as California ports jostle over how to resolve delays

    U.S. shipping operations remain clogged as ports, truckers and warehouses can’t find enough workers or agree on 24/7 operations

    Nike Inc. doesn’t have enough sneakers to sell for the holidays. Costco Wholesale Corp. is reimposing limits on paper towel purchases. Prices for artificial Christmas trees have jumped 25% this season.

    Despite mounting shipping delays and cargo backlogs, the busiest U.S. port complex shuts its gates for hours on most days and remains closed on Sundays. Meanwhile, major ports in Asia and Europe have operated round-the-clock for years.

    "With the current work schedule you have two big ports operating at 60%-70% of their capacity," said Uffe Ostergaard, president of the North America region for German boxship operator Hapag-Lloyd AG . "That’s a huge operational disadvantage."

    The American supply chain has so far failed to adapt to the crush of imports as businesses rush to restock pandemic-depleted inventories. Tens of thousands of containers are stuck at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, California, the two West Coast gateways that move more than a quarter of all American imports. More than 60 ships are lined up to dock, with waiting times stretching to three weeks.

    Participants in each link in the U.S. chain – shipping lines, port workers, truckers, warehouse operators, railways and retailers – blame others for the imbalances and disagree on whether 24/7 operations will help them catch up. All of them are struggling with a shortage of workers.

    The ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach are managed separately and operate 13 private container terminals. Long Beach officials said last week they would try operating 24 hours a day from Monday to Thursday. Gene Seroka, executive director of the larger Port of Los Angeles, said his port will step more cautiously, keeping existing hours while waiting for truckers and warehouse operators to extend their hours.

    "It has been nearly impossible to get everyone on the same page toward 24/7 operations," Mr. Seroka said.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/cargo-piles-up-as-california-ports-jostle-over-how-to-resolve-delays
  • supratentorialsupratentorial FLPosts: 1,762 Captain
    Banning 70,000 owner-operators from hauling cargo in CA isn't disrupting the supply chain?
    Double lol...
  • TarponatorTarponator Under a BridgePosts: 18,136 AG
    You mean the ones that went into effect almost two years ago and didn't ban anyone, but rather regulated the emission control on diesel vehicles with a GVWR of over 14k lbs?

    http://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/default/files/truckstop/azregs/dmvreg.html

    Is that what you're referring to?
  • supratentorialsupratentorial FLPosts: 1,762 Captain
    edited October 16 #250
    You mean the ones that went into effect almost two years ago and didn't ban anyone, but rather regulated the emission control on diesel vehicles with a GVWR of over 14k lbs?

    http://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/default/files/truckstop/azregs/dmvreg.html

    Is that what you're referring to?
    CA assembly bill 5 bans owner-operators. The slow and lazy unions can't compete so they got their pet lawmakers to eliminate the competition.

    Some outlets say the injunction against the bill has been overruled by circuit 9.  Others say the injunction remains in place and owner-operators are waiting for a SC hearing.

    So, I'll have to fact check myself and rate my post as partially true as some drivers my still be operating in CA.
  • 4drinkmin4drinkmin The BarPosts: 881 Officer
  • supratentorialsupratentorial FLPosts: 1,762 Captain
    So far we've heard inflation is good and now the key to reducing inflation is printing $trillions: 

    "Today we face an economy in transition, and as part of the transition we are seeing higher prices for some of the things people have to buy," Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo said in an interview with ABC News.

    "That’s exactly why ___ _________ was focused on the American Rescue Plan in ensuring on getting stimulus into the hands of the American people, so they'd be able to buy the products they need," he said.

  • 4drinkmin4drinkmin The BarPosts: 881 Officer
    edited October 17 #253
    Current officials are saying the only way to rectify the supply chain issues is that everyone gets vaccinated.

    That comment alone makes this whole issue seem self caused and planned.


    I'd post the ABC News link but I may get in trouble.
  • treemanjohntreemanjohn Posts: 7,314 Admiral
    4drinkmin said:
    Current officials are saying the only way to rectify the supply chain issues is that everyone gets vaccinated.

    That comment alone makes this whole issue seem self caused and planned.


    I'd post the ABC News link but I may get in trouble.
    If the message is a good one you don't have to cram it down someones throat. Theyre putting a lot of effort into this
    We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends
  • 4drinkmin4drinkmin The BarPosts: 881 Officer
    edited October 17 #255
    He literally stated that the only way to get over this supply chain issue is that everyone get vaccinated.

    Kind of makes it seem real sketchy.

    If I get the green light I gladly post it.

    Ferris? It's an ABC interview and POTUS is referred to but not named.
  • 2amigo2amigo Posts: 7,353 Admiral
    I love the way some don’t hold others accountable but make excuses for the situation. 
  • 4drinkmin4drinkmin The BarPosts: 881 Officer
    I just messaged Ferris to see if I could post the interview. 

    We'll see.
  • SaltwaterdawgSaltwaterdawg Too far from the gulfPosts: 3,104 Captain
    mplspug said:
    Go Brandon?
    It’s let’s go Brandon. 
  • treemanjohntreemanjohn Posts: 7,314 Admiral
    4drinkmin said:
    He literally stated that the only way to get over this supply chain issue is that everyone get vaccinated.

    Kind of makes it seem real sketchy.

    If I get the green light I gladly post it.

    Ferris? It's an ABC interview and POTUS is referred to but not named.
    Just talked to ferris. He said so what....
    We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends
  • treemanjohntreemanjohn Posts: 7,314 Admiral
    4drinkmin said:
    I just messaged Ferris to see if I could post the interview. 

    We'll see.
    Zero chance if the messiah 2.0 is in it
    We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends
  • 4drinkmin4drinkmin The BarPosts: 881 Officer
    He doesn't name his name.
    He just says the president.

    Waiting for his response.
  • treemanjohntreemanjohn Posts: 7,314 Admiral
    4drinkmin said:
    He doesn't name his name.
    He just says the president.

    Waiting for his response.
    Doesn't fit the FSF chatroom narrative. Ain't gonna happen
    We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends
  • 4drinkmin4drinkmin The BarPosts: 881 Officer
    edited October 18 #263
    if it violates any of his requirements he can delete it.

    It doesn't name anybody in specifics and is really not political but industry-based.

    You can discount the platform where it came from but this is an ABC interview as sourced and labeled.


  • altuckaltuck TallahasseePosts: 728 Officer
    That has to be the stupidest statement ever made on the supply chain issue.
  • treemanjohntreemanjohn Posts: 7,314 Admiral
    4drinkmin said:
    if it violates any of his requirements he can delete it.

    It doesn't name anybody in specifics and is really not political but industry-based.

    You can discount the platform where it came from but this is an ABC interview as sourced and labeled.


    Just another propaganda pushing agenda driven puke
    We’re like the piggy bank that everybody is robbing, and that ends
  • ferris1248ferris1248 Posts: 16,709 Moderator
    4drinkmin said:
    I was corrected and had my post deleted. Unacceptable meme.

    Yep

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."

    Rabbi Hillel (c20 BCE)

  • kellerclkellercl Posts: 10,484 AG

    #Lead beakerhead specialist 

    "Soul of the mind, key to life's ether. Soul of the lost, withdrawn from its vessel. Let strength be granted, so the world might be mended. So the world might be mended."
  • ferris1248ferris1248 Posts: 16,709 Moderator
    4drinkmin said:
    He doesn't name his name.
    He just says the president.

    Waiting for his response.
    Doesn't fit the FSF chatroom narrative. Ain't gonna happen
    And the spokesman said it. He didn't quote the President.

    I'll leave for now but it'll lead to the thread being closed in all likelihood as it will provoke other comments. 

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."

    Rabbi Hillel (c20 BCE)

  • 4drinkmin4drinkmin The BarPosts: 881 Officer
  • MelbourneMarkMelbourneMark Posts: 3,327 Captain
    Ya, still trying to figure out why a trucker driver not getting a shot is the problem with the supply chain. 

    Regardless of the reasons; shutting down a world economy will have lasting consequences...    I think some of the rules/regs/decisions after the shutdown is what is causing some of these delays. 

    I mentioned earlier the trucking rules in commiefornia, and those certainly cannot help.  The fact that there is a truck-driver shortage cannot help either... 

    As much as any "side" wants to point the finger; there is not a simple-easy-single reason to blame. 
  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 16,284 AG
    The trucks that are able to pick up basically set their own rates too.   People are paying STUPID money to haul their freight.  There was a time only a few years ago when $5 a mile was HUGE, I mean that was hurricane supply emergency load money.   It's not unheard of now for people to ask for crazy rates all over the country.  
    You can't pet a dead dog back to life 
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