FWC recommends rescind the catch-and-release for Redfish, Snook, Sea Trout

kellercl

bigfinn35 said:

kellercl said:

ANUMBER1 said:

kellercl said:

And taking tens of thousands of snook for cat food was a good idea.  Got it.

prison food, like Maine lobster back in the day.

Honestly snook isn't my favorite.  I think it is overrated in food value at the moment.

You seeing any dead fish?

I called into the FWC public webinar for Sarasota Bay to give my input and local reports. When someone mentioned wanting to keep snook closed, the panel mentioned in their response that something like 80% of slot snook are released even when in season. Guess the culture has shifted towards C&R quite a bit, personally I'm fine eating other stuff. 

For me pompano is better, so is spanish.  I even like trout more than snook.  The other issue I have with snook is the volume of meat.  I tend to only feed 2-3 people, a slot snook is too much meat and I don't like wasting it.

Lostconch

I would like the option of keeping an injured fish rather than feeding it to the crabs

bigfinn35

Lostconch said:

I would like the option of keeping an injured fish rather than feeding it to the crabs

If it were enforceable that would make sense, but I don't see a way to legalize that without essentially having an open season.

bigfinn35

kellercl said:

bigfinn35 said:

kellercl said:

ANUMBER1 said:

kellercl said:

And taking tens of thousands of snook for cat food was a good idea.  Got it.

prison food, like Maine lobster back in the day.

Honestly snook isn't my favorite.  I think it is overrated in food value at the moment.

You seeing any dead fish?

I called into the FWC public webinar for Sarasota Bay to give my input and local reports. When someone mentioned wanting to keep snook closed, the panel mentioned in their response that something like 80% of slot snook are released even when in season. Guess the culture has shifted towards C&R quite a bit, personally I'm fine eating other stuff. 

For me pompano is better, so is spanish.  I even like trout more than snook.  The other issue I have with snook is the volume of meat.  I tend to only feed 2-3 people, a slot snook is too much meat and I don't like wasting it.

been so long since I ate snook I barely remember how it tastes honestly. But I'm certainly ok to keep eating pomps, spanish, sheepshead, snapper, etc.

Lostconch

I am just saying allowing the keeping of one a day. They could still encourage catch and release. I don't fish for snook specifically and release them anyway. Under the current regs is one is injured I still have to release it. The simple fact is 25 % of released fish die anyway. This is FWC'S statistic quoted in Waterline

ANUMBER1

kellercl said:

ANUMBER1 said:

kellercl said:

And taking tens of thousands of snook for cat food was a good idea.  Got it.

prison food, like Maine lobster back in the day.

Honestly snook isn't my favorite.  I think it is overrated in food value at the moment.

You seeing any dead fish?

No but I am further north 

kellercl

ANUMBER1 said:

kellercl said:

ANUMBER1 said:

kellercl said:

And taking tens of thousands of snook for cat food was a good idea.  Got it.

prison food, like Maine lobster back in the day.

Honestly snook isn't my favorite.  I think it is overrated in food value at the moment.

You seeing any dead fish?

No but I am further north 

Good luck Art, I hope it doesn't reach your area.  

restlessnative

Good news I fished all over the harbor this weekend along with 51 other teams and didn’t see or smell any red tide. It also blew 35 and I had my **** handed to me all day, every day. 

kellercl

restlessnative said:

Good news I fished all over the harbor this weekend along with 51 other teams and didn’t see or smell any red tide. It also blew 35 and I had my **** handed to me all day, every day. 

Mind if I ask what section?  I ask because I am headed down later this year.  My father in-law said upper harbor is a mess, lower (Cape Haze Point, Bull and Turtle) are perfectly fine.  Seems like mid-West is where things clean up.  Does that align with your experience?  

restlessnative

kellercl said:

restlessnative said:

Good news I fished all over the harbor this weekend along with 51 other teams and didn’t see or smell any red tide. It also blew 35 and I had my **** handed to me all day, every day. 

Mind if I ask what section?  I ask because I am headed down later this year.  My father in-law said upper harbor is a mess, lower (Cape Haze Point, Bull and Turtle) are perfectly fine.  Seems like mid-West is where things clean up.  Does that align with your experience?  

We fished mostly in and around Turtle, but I talked to other teams who fished anywhere from Stump Pass all the way down to the Caloosahatchee River and no one said anything about red tide. The winning team had 81.5” inches (biggest snook each day). We caught plenty but could only put together 61”. It was tough due to the wind and not fun having to cross the harbor every morning and afternoon to Cabbage Key where the tournament is held out of. Caught lots of good trout too, have another tournament this week that is grand slam and watch I won’t catch any big trout 😒

kellercl

restlessnative said:

kellercl said:

restlessnative said:

Good news I fished all over the harbor this weekend along with 51 other teams and didn’t see or smell any red tide. It also blew 35 and I had my **** handed to me all day, every day. 

Mind if I ask what section?  I ask because I am headed down later this year.  My father in-law said upper harbor is a mess, lower (Cape Haze Point, Bull and Turtle) are perfectly fine.  Seems like mid-West is where things clean up.  Does that align with your experience?  

We fished mostly in and around Turtle, but I talked to other teams who fished anywhere from Stump Pass all the way down to the Caloosahatchee River and no one said anything about red tide. The winning team had 81.5” inches (biggest snook each day). We caught plenty but could only put together 61”. It was tough due to the wind and not fun having to cross the harbor every morning and afternoon to Cabbage Key where the tournament is held out of. Caught lots of good trout too, have another tournament this week that is grand slam and watch I won’t catch any big trout 😒

Excellent, thanks for the update.  Glad to hear consistent experiences with the lower harbor.

Congrats on the quality fish and best wishes with your slam activities.  

restlessnative

Thanks. I forgot to mention that my non self deploying trolling motor decided to self deploy going 50 some odd mph in a 3’ chop. To say it was violent would be a huge understatement, and I thought for sure it was going to be ripped off the bow. How it is still there and still working is beyond me. 

1outlaw

restlessnative said:

Thanks. I forgot to mention that my non self deploying trolling motor decided to self deploy going 50 some odd mph in a 3’ chop. To say it was violent would be a huge understatement, and I thought for sure it was going to be ripped off the bow. How it is still there and still working is beyond me. 

I read a story i believe on trick my skiff similar to that? That you?
Good luck this next week! Hopefully you can get it done! 

restlessnative

1outlaw said:

restlessnative said:

Thanks. I forgot to mention that my non self deploying trolling motor decided to self deploy going 50 some odd mph in a 3’ chop. To say it was violent would be a huge understatement, and I thought for sure it was going to be ripped off the bow. How it is still there and still working is beyond me. 

I read a story i believe on trick my skiff similar to that? That you?
Good luck this next week! Hopefully you can get it done! 

Wasn’t me, this is the only place I posted it. Thanks, hopefully it goes a little better this week.

Fisherman007

I'm going to listen in at 9am but here is the recommendation by staff to split Tampa Bay from Sarasota Bay south...
https://myfwc.com/media/26691/11b-sm-sw-redtideupdate.pdf

Fisherman007

They voted for staff recommendations.
https://myfwc.com/media/26691/11b-sm-sw-redtideupdate.pdf

Dodger

Fisherman007 said:

They voted for staff recommendations.
https://myfwc.com/media/26691/11b-sm-sw-redtideupdate.pdf

I read it 4 times and I still can't tell if this is the new law or recommendations.  When does the final decision take effect? Anyone?

Fisherman007

Dodger said:

Fisherman007 said:

They voted for staff recommendations.
https://myfwc.com/media/26691/11b-sm-sw-redtideupdate.pdf

I read it 4 times and I still can't tell if this is the new law or recommendations.  When does the final decision take effect? Anyone?

Well it would take effect after 5/31/2021 (end of this month).  It would be new regulations (executive order) for Sarasota Bay and south.  Tampa Bay would resume normal regulations.

kellercl

Southwest will never open back up, imho.

AlwaysLearningMore

It is official now:  from Sarasota Bay to Naples, trout will open June 1 with a new boat limit of six fish per boat.  Snook and redfish in the same area will stay closed for another year.

AnEnglishFisherman

6 per boat seems sensible given your average inshore boat generally only takes 3 people comfortably so a couple each is probably as much as you’d eat fresh anyway. Best to err on the side of caution to make sure it’s sustainable. Easy enough to add a few mackerel and snapper if you want to gorge yourselves 😉

lukkyracer

I like it. Redfish and snook in Sarasota bay south will explode in population with 1 more year of closure. I have not seen so many redfish in Sarasota bay in years.

Fisherman007

lukkyracer said:

I like it. Redfish and snook in Sarasota bay south will explode in population with 1 more year of closure. I have not seen so many redfish in Sarasota bay in years.

kellercl

Love it.  6 trout is fair.  feed 4-6 people.  Reds and snooks are exploding in Charlotte Harbor, let it continue.  

Dodger

I love it!  It also think it's fair!  Good luck to all!

snookhunter52

So does this mean if you're wading? Does it mean that you can only keep trout if you hire a guide? Or is it also back to 3 fish per person for recreational fishing without a guide or a boat?

kellercl

snookhunter52 said:

So does this mean if you're wading? Does it mean that you can only keep trout if you hire a guide? Or is it also back to 3 fish per person for recreational fishing without a guide or a boat?

I understand it as 3 per person if one person is on the boat.  Regardless how many people on a boat, 6 is the max vessel limit.  

AlwaysLearningMore

snookhunter52 said:

So does this mean if you're wading? Does it mean that you can only keep trout if you hire a guide? Or is it also back to 3 fish per person for recreational fishing without a guide or a boat?

Bag limit is three per person per day.  Wading or in a boat, with or without a guide.  But no more than six per boat, even if there are more than two people fishing from that boat.

snookhunter52

Thanks guys, I'm planning a trip to Naples in October and a trip to Sarasota in December. Was hoping to keep a couple trout.

kellercl

I'm happy.  I always disliked 5 guys keeping 25 trout back in the day.  I like keeping as much as the next guy, but only keep enough for a single dinner