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Have you or the company ever fired someone that was considered possibly violent?

AC ManAC Man Posts: 6,623 Admiral
My brothers partner and their air conditioning business had enough of an employee and fired him over the phone. They told him somebody will be there this afternoon to pick up the truck. The guy said anybody shows up on my property will be in big trouble.

Nobody would go get the truck but my brother had a pretty good relationship with the guy so he said he would do it. He arrived to get the van and from the backyard the ex-employee comes around the corner of the house to the truck where my brother was with a gun belt and a holster with a loaded handgun. The guy was extremely upset I don't think he had anything against my brother so things simmerd down and my brother was able to drive their truck away. I'm not so sure if that would have happened if the person that fired him was the one that showed up to pick up the truck.

How about you?
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  • gogittumgogittum SW New MexicoPosts: 1,164 Officer
    I wouldn't get in a gunfight over property, or even a fistfight....esp. against a weapon.  You can't win, esp. in the emerging political climate.  If I'd been sent to pick up the van and the guy came out like that, I'd've called the police on the spot - hoping they hadn't been de-funded.
  • dave44dave44 Posts: 12,176 AG
    I’m in construction. I’ve fired plenty of hotheads, I try to talk them down, but it’s not always possible. 
         I only hire subs now, and nearly had to throw down with a painter that swore he used 2 coats of paint but left holidays all over the house.
       Yep, people make me tired.
  • AC ManAC Man Posts: 6,623 Admiral
    edited January 14 #4
    I only had one idiot employee that I was concerned about. The employees neighbor called my company and said he's loaded up his personal belongings in my brand new van and it's heading to Alabama. What the hell?


    I had not fired him he was just bizarre. It was a weekend and GPS showed he was in Tallahassee. My secretary called the cops and they talked to him on the phone and said to get back here ASAP and he agreed. He was back in about three and a half hours and the cop said don't go over there without an escort from the police. I met them there he was very nice to the police but he wasn't very kind of me. Long story short, never again will I go pick up a truck on somebody's property without a police escort. I've been doing this for 45 years and 99.9% of the time everything goes well in fact I usually give them a two week notice no issues but there's always that one which is why I keep a loaded 45 in my desk drawer
  • cadmancadman Home of the Gators Posts: 34,294 AG
    I have had a couple threaten me over the years wanting to fight, but that was as far as it went. 

    I worked with a guy once who had a scar on his chest from firing a female employee, When he fired her, she took out a knife and stabbed him and cut him.

    He said the part that really pissed him off was she got out jail before he got out of the hospital.

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    I am just here for my amusement. 

  • Sea-SquatchSea-Squatch Posts: 1,904 Captain
    Yep. I had to fire a guy w/ anger problems. We arranged anger management counseling for him, but it didn’t help. When he was escorted off the business property, he told them he was going to find me, and kick my butt. He knew were to find me.....



  • AC ManAC Man Posts: 6,623 Admiral
    cadman said:
    I have had a couple threaten me over the years wanting to fight, but that was as far as it went. 

    I worked with a guy once who had a scar on his chest from firing a female employee, When he fired her, she took out a knife and stabbed him and cut him.

    He said the part that really pissed him off was she got out jail before he got out of the hospital.
    That's crazy. I wouldn't predict a woman do that.


  • stc1993stc1993 Albany, GA Carrabelle, FLPosts: 7,938 Admiral
    There are some crazy people in this world.
  • pottydocpottydoc Port Saint JoePosts: 4,278 Captain
    Found out second hand that one of our guys threatened to
    kill another employee. We went snd talked to the guy who was threatened, and he confirmed the other guy had threatened to kill him, and showed him a gun in his trunk. This was at one of the major theme parks (no, not that one), so we contacted their security. This was a day after the incident happened. We called him to our trailer, and he admitted it, but said he was just fooling around. We fired him, and security escorted him off site. I don’t know if he would have carried through his threat or not, but I know several of the supers were carring for the next few weeks. 
  • Parker boyParker boy Posts: 216 Deckhand
    I was visiting a site for business when a foreman fired and employee for poor attendance. It was somewhat humorous as the terminated employee weighed maybe 125 lbs and attacked the foreman who was around 30 years old and weighed about 240. We pulled the little guy off at which he went after the safety guy.

    I told the site manager to simply call the police who showed up quickly. I told them we did not want him arrested but to simply go away. The cops told him to go at which he said, "I'll whip your **** as quick as his". It seems that was the wrong thing to tell a cop who immediately cuffed him. They then took his i.d. and it turned out he had two warrants for domestic violence and one for contempt of court for failure to appear.

    Some folks don't know when to shut up
  • ANUMBER1ANUMBER1 Posts: 11,939 AG
    I won't fire myself, ain't room on my boat but for one crazy.
    I am glad to only be a bird hunter with bird dogs...being a shooter or dog handler or whatever other niche exists to separate appears to generate far too much about which to worry.
  • Gary SGary S Posts: 2,412 Captain
    I worked with a guy that was nuts. He worry me to this day and I have been retired since 2012. The guy forgets nothing and will bring it up at different times. I had to get between him and other people a couple times. I never understood how he was able to not be fired.
  • ferris1248ferris1248 Posts: 10,566 Moderator
    Several times we've had to let hostile employees go. We simply ask the local police or sheriffs Dept. to meet us at the exchange point.

    "That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole of the law. The rest is commentary."

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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 13,986 AG
    I had to fire a truck driver who was not performing, but he lived in the truck with his crackhead girlfriend.   That argument kept going until i had to throw him out of the office, have the police come remove him and her from the truck and put them at the end of the property with their crap in a wheel barrow.   We had another driver threaten to come shoot the place up.   I had one threaten to come fight me on the property. I told him there was nothing between us but air and opportunity.    When he came up to the office he was in a totally different frame of mind.   Drivers bark but rarely bite.   
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  • jetmechjetmech On the coastPosts: 903 Officer
    Remember when the US postal service had problems with hotheaded employees? Like the ones that had a tendency to shoot up mailrooms?
     They fixed it by going to self adhesive stamps, must have solved it since there has been no more shootings?
     Maybe some of you may have some things in the work place?
  • MelbourneMarkMelbourneMark Posts: 2,236 Captain
    My last company let a truly disturbed person go.  very smart and experienced technician.  But, odd things would set him off.  He truly scared me as he was some kind of bipolar or something..

    I came into the office the morning of the firing, and 2 other employees were there with sidearms in holsters.  (most of the employees were gun nuts)
    They met him in the parking lot with his box of stuff and all was well.  I somewhat expected him to come back at some point but nothing happened thankfully
  • SAENoleSAENole Posts: 11,385 AG
    This thread reminds me of my most recent ex girlfriend.  Nucking futs!!!!!!!!
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  • LimeyLimey Posts: 542 Officer
    I’ve fired many crazy iron workers thru the years. Had to fight a few. But luckily never got hurt.
     
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  • dragon baitdragon bait Posts: 9,435 Admiral
    Limey said:
    I’ve fired many crazy iron workers thru the years. Had to fight a few. But luckily never got hurt.
     
    Same here local 272
  • AC ManAC Man Posts: 6,623 Admiral
    It sure beats firing the girls on Xanax or Zoloft. After you wake them up off the desktop and let them go they just say okay see you later.
  • Turner River TerrorTurner River Terror Posts: 8,335 Admiral
    Limey said:
    I’ve fired many crazy iron workers thru the years. Had to fight a few. But luckily never got hurt.
     
    Same here local 272
    HA...Local 272 out of Miami for me back in the day . Worked with the Wolf Brothers building a big part of Ft' Lauderdale
    Killin and Grillin :grin
  • LimeyLimey Posts: 542 Officer
    Limey said:
    I’ve fired many crazy iron workers thru the years. Had to fight a few. But luckily never got hurt.
     
    Same here local 272
    HA...Local 272 out of Miami for me back in the day . Worked with the Wolf Brothers building a big part of Ft' Lauderdale
    808 here. Been out years
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  • dragon baitdragon bait Posts: 9,435 Admiral
    Limey said:
    I’ve fired many crazy iron workers thru the years. Had to fight a few. But luckily never got hurt.
     
    Same here local 272
    HA...Local 272 out of Miami for me back in the day . Worked with the Wolf Brothers building a big part of Ft' Lauderdale
    Doing structural iron and Rigging was how I got into Rigging Rock shows, that and right place right time


  • Wayward_SonWayward_Son Coconut Creek, FLPosts: 54 Deckhand
    About 30 years ago, I fired a guy for shooting bottle rockets into traffic out the window of one of my company work trucks (yeah, company name and phone # right there on the truck; that’s how I found out about it). He came by my house later that day, yelling about coming after me and killing me and then drove through a neighbor’s yard tearing up their lawn a bit. (Absentee owner house that I looked after and maintained.) So, I called the police and had them come over. Told them what happened, what he said he was going to do, and showed them what he did. The officers asked me what I wanted them to do. I told them I just wanted a report documenting that I had called them about it, because if he followed through with what he said he was going to do and I had to defend myself, I knew the first question they’d be asking me is why I didn’t report it to them and and let them handle it.  I never heard from or saw the guy again.
  • GardawgGardawg Posts: 10,494 AG
    No anger but I did have to let go an  old guy who couldn't keep up.  He said he understood but then started crying.  Gotta tell ya I felt like I was shooting Old Yeller.


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  • Soda PopinskiSoda Popinski GrovelandPosts: 13,986 AG
    Gardawg said:
    No anger but I did have to let go an  old guy who couldn't keep up.  He said he understood but then started crying.  Gotta tell ya I felt like I was shooting Old Yeller.


    Fired a server and hostess for arguing on the floor in front of guests.   that kind of set the tone for the rest of the restaurant staff.   I don't care if you argue, but do it in the back.   Both came back crying.  Didn't matter to me i was a cold SOB back then.   
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  • Buford CletusBuford Cletus Posts: 1,833 Captain
    I have had a couple of men cry when I terminated them.  Have to say I would rather them get pissed and threatening than deal with them uncomfortableness of them crying.
  • LimeyLimey Posts: 542 Officer
    One off the companies I worked for I was known as the axe man. I used to walk on job sites and people knew some one was gone. I’ve even handed out layoff checks on Christmas Eve. That’s construction 
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  • dragon baitdragon bait Posts: 9,435 Admiral
    Limey said:
    One off the companies I worked for I was known as the axe man. I used to walk on job sites and people knew some one was gone. I’ve even handed out layoff checks on Christmas Eve. That’s construction 
    As a first year apprentice I was handed 2 checks on Christmas Eve (2 checks is pay off at  layoff) I cussed the super up and down for ruining Christmas 

    the 2nd check was a bonus 
  • pottydocpottydoc Port Saint JoePosts: 4,278 Captain
    Limey said:
    One off the companies I worked for I was known as the axe man. I used to walk on job sites and people knew some one was gone. I’ve even handed out layoff checks on Christmas Eve. That’s construction 
    As a first year apprentice I was handed 2 checks on Christmas Eve (2 checks is pay off at  layoff) I cussed the super up and down for ruining Christmas 

    the 2nd check was a bonus 
    That brings back some memories. A guy I worked for did the same thing at the company Christmas party, but put both checks in the same envelope. It took a few minutes before people noticed. The party got real interesting for a few minutes. It was family oriented, and a couple of wives went off on him. He finally got them to quiet down enough to explain, but it took a little while to get everyone back in the Christmas spirit. Pretty sure some of the kids there learned a few new words from the ladies.  

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