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Mike6321Mike6321 Sarasota Posts: 1 Greenhorn
Hi, I do a lot of offshore fishing off Sarasota. I’m just looking to see if anybody would be willing to sell their offshore numbers for grouper and snapper mostly. 

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  • SaltygatorvetSaltygatorvet TallahasseePosts: 5,808 Admiral
    edited September 8 #2
    Really? Any numbers you buy will probably be garbage. If you do as much offshore fishing as you say, you should be able to find your own. Put some time in watching your bottom machine. No one will sell you good numbers, you are asking to get ripped off
    You should have been here yesterday
  • pottydocpottydoc The thriving metropolis of Umatilla Posts: 4,009 Captain
    That ain't gonna happen
  • SuperMutuSuperMutu Posts: 432 Deckhand
    Wouldn’t that be a bit less satisfying than finding them on your own?
  • The Cat's EyeThe Cat's Eye Posts: 1,456 Officer
    edited September 8 #5
    The problem is the price of fish. A 12 lb gag grouper yields about 6 lb's of filet that has
    a retail price of $16 per pound. That works out to $96 for that one fish. Add a few bucks for the throat and head and you have one fish that has a retail value of $100. i paid off a boat with one secret grouper spot for over twenty five years until i lost it to a Marine Patrol LEO that climbed aboard my boat and saw the grouper i had in the cooler. A couple of months later i encountered lobster poachers on the wreck.
    Giimoozaabi
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,901 Captain
    With today's electronics... no need to "buy numbers" - just steal them like everyone else does... In my area, the gulf coast of the Everglades bottom numbers can last for years and years - or maybe disappear overnight given the bottom inshore... Numbers offshore are a different proposition.

    Seriously, if I have a really good spot inshore - we'll be leaving it the moment I see another boat coming (and want to be gone when they're still at least a mile away).  Behave any differently and your "secret" - isn't any more...

    When I got my first really good job on a charterman (early on a young mate won't be working for anyone with skill - just the way it was way back when, early seventies...) the captain was skilled enough to have 15 or 20 wrecks along the Miami Beach coastline - using only double ranges (we didn't have a depth finder on board at the time...) and he knew the exact relief of each one and how far I had to position the wireline off the bottom (we fished wrecks from 100 out to around 240 feet.  At every spot he'd very carefully set up so that he could see the ranges - and I couldn't.... Just the way it was....

    By the way, I long ago gave up fishing offshore - the farthest you'll ever find us is less than 15 miles (my skiff is only 17' long these days...).
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • MangroveMarkMangroveMark Oak HillPosts: 283 Deckhand
    As per another thread......just steal them electronically from your best friend...then bang his wife. :D
  • SaltygatorvetSaltygatorvet TallahasseePosts: 5,808 Admiral
    As per another thread......just steal them electronically from your best friend...then bang his wife. :D
    That was on the hull truth, not fs. Pretty funny thread. The guys in tht are brutal compared to here
    You should have been here yesterday
  • GarysmoGarysmo Ft. Pierce, FloridaPosts: 1,431 Officer
    You might get a friend to share a number or maybe 2 but like the others have said people protect their spots.  
  • Kokosing LoverKokosing Lover Posts: 821 Officer
    I think we're getting catfished or trolled by all of these recent 1st post folks.  Either that or FS has hired a call center in Bangladesh to try and boost posting activity.
  • dragon baitdragon bait Posts: 8,944 Admiral
    Mike6321 said:
    Hi, I do a lot of offshore fishing off Sarasota. I’m just looking to see if anybody would be willing to sell their offshore numbers for grouper and snapper mostly. 
    IM me I accept Bitcoin
  • GotseaGotsea Posts: 735 Officer
    lol, lol this is getting too unreal here  :D
  • The Cat's EyeThe Cat's Eye Posts: 1,456 Officer
    edited September 10 #13

    I once knew two guys who stayed out of the sun long enough to lose their tans. Then they hired a guide out of Key West by booking it through a relative some where up in the North of the USA. Not sure if they practiced a Boston, NY, or a New England accent.... the guide was completely fooled. I also know a member of the defunct Rod & Reel Fishing Club who booked a top guide with two of his friends in Key West and hid a GPS in one of their tackle bags. When someone hooked a huge permit on a secret wreck and the guide had to chase down the fish this member went into his tackle bag and pressed the memory button on his GPS and did it again when the captain was tying back up to his anchor buoy.  

    BTW a mile is almost not far enough inshore, just ask a long range hunter or sniper, but for most situations it’s good enough... 

    Off the subject but to show how long distances are not always as secure as they seem: I and a friend were shot at by two guys who were perched on top of the western flood control dam on the Aerojet Canal who were firing fully automatic weapons. They fired just two warning shots towards my boat from two miles distance to warn us to disappear which we promptly did.  Their second shot landed just 50 yd's from us and we did not wait for a third.  I measured the distance on Google Earth thirty five years later, since we were fishing where the Aerojet canal is joined by a smaller canal when they fired towards us just as we rounded the corner from the smaller canal into the larger Aerojet. Those guys had some experience. Their first shot landed in the water short by 100 yd's. Two seconds later, before i could get a manual rope engine started. (We were using a trolling motor) the second shot landed in front of us by 50 yd's and a little bit off to the south. BTW i know the difference between fully and semi automatic fire since i was trained on the early M16, .

    Giimoozaabi
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,901 Captain
    Back in the early eighties Miami was a very bad place (understatement...) and each New Years Eve you’d hear automatic weapons fire near the downtown area along with all the usual fireworks... One year while everything else was going on, I clearly heard not just automatic weapons but the very distinct sound of a heavy machine gun (something in the 50 caliber range...) during the “celebrations”...

    I was a newly promoted sergeant back then just north of Miami and happy that I did not work for City of Miami.  Hope those times never come again...

    By the way, when I first came to south Florida I was only a few days out of the Army and just back from a very bad place where learning to tell the difference between different weapons was something you learned early on.... I was just “in the rear with the gear” and only got shot at once or twice, but that’s not something you’ll ever forget.
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • dragon baitdragon bait Posts: 8,944 Admiral
    Mike6321 said:
    Hi, I do a lot of offshore fishing off Sarasota. I’m just looking to see if anybody would be willing to sell their offshore numbers for grouper and snapper mostly. 
    IM me I accept Bitcoin
    Gameritis The Cost of Waiting
  • GotseaGotsea Posts: 735 Officer
    I don't think there are "secret spots" any more I want to here from some one that can honestly tell that he or she have never seen any one fishing on or very closed to one of the spots that they consider "secret", I have been fishing several spots from Boca Chita to Key Largo for grouper and snappers for several years, I didn't see  boats on then for years but now there are always some around, further more I have arrived at one spot where I have seen a boat anchor jut on it, anchor myself at two hundred yards from it star getting some fish and observed them pull up nothing but trash fish, they will lift anchor and start moving, I have re-anchor on the spot and start catching, so you need to know what you are doing, so Mike if you ever come this way send me a PM I'll give you a couple of good #s  
    Cheers 
  • L8RBRAL8RBRA St. LouisPosts: 642 Officer
    In order to see the secret forum with GPS numbers.... you need to send nudes to a moderator.
  • SJCSJC Posts: 2,572 Captain
    As per another thread......just steal them electronically from your best friend...then bang his wife. :D
    link
    The Beatings will continue until moral improves!
  • flagoldflagold AlabamaPosts: 384 Deckhand
    edited September 15 #19
    Back in the early eighties Miami was a very bad place (understatement...) and each New Years Eve you’d hear automatic weapons fire near the downtown area along with all the usual fireworks... One year while everything else was going on, I clearly heard not just automatic weapons but the very distinct sound of a heavy machine gun (something in the 50 caliber range...) during the “celebrations”...


    That was '88 or 89.  We (6 of us doing an engine change) were standing outside the Eastern heavy maintenance hangars (lined the N. E/W runway) when all that cut loose and quickly dived inside.

    As for spots I agree with what has been said: find your own.  Not hard with the present tools:

    https://youtu.be/b5ljdWyLR5I
    Daytona Rig: Any Depth Water Snag Free: https://youtu.be/eCruAntyeW4
    Texas/Carolina Adjustable Rig: https://youtu.be/Qk3Sg4_Yaks
    Bass From The Bank 100% Effective: https://youtu.be/Obu4ENBHcQc
    Rebuild Grandpa's Zebco: https://youtu.be/_4BTSEVcbQ4
    Bomb Holes, Wrecks, Reefs How To ID & GPS: https://youtu.be/b5ljdWyLR5I
    Fish Attractor That Works: https://youtu.be/ushkhZUxUWg 
    Big Sheepshead With Snails: https://youtu.be/gqE0az7WqH4

  • Doc StressorDoc Stressor Homosassa, FLPosts: 2,672 Captain
    I had a friend who did a residency at the Jackson Memorial ER back in the 80s.  He kept telling about the great experiences and training he was getting.  Once he told me that he treated a patient who got a leg blown off by a bazooka (probably an RPG) while sitting in a train.  "Where else can you get an experience like that outside of a war zone?" he said.
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,901 Captain
    My favorite “Miami tale” from that time was the big shot from Columbia that was badly shot up in an ambush (this was over emeralds -not cocaine), survived, and was flown to Miami for medical treatment.  He made it here, was wheeled through the airport out to where the taxis were - then was finished off by two guys on a motorcycle (the guy on the back of the motor was the shooter...).

    Welcome to Miami- See it like a native... that was the slogan for tourists back then.
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • The coke "wars" didn't start in the 80's, it just sotra got more headlines.
    I have stories from the 70's to rival the 80's stuff.
    THERE SHOULD BE NO COMMERCIAL FISHING ALLOWED FOR ANY SPECIES THAT IS CONSIDERED OVERFISHED.
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,901 Captain
    Early on (Early seventies) there were a lot of Jimmy Buffet types running grass as much for the adventure as anything else.  Many of them didn’t carry guns either.... all of that changed when the blood began to spill.... Toward the end of that decade things just kept getting worse and worse - then came the cowboys along with really bad outcomes - then came the Miami Special dope deals where no one brought dope or money and both sides came heavily armed looking to rip off the other -very bad news

    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • drgibbydrgibby Posts: 1,516 Captain
    Real life Crocket and Tubbs.....................
  • flagoldflagold AlabamaPosts: 384 Deckhand
    edited September 17 #25
    It could be anywhere, really.  I went by a whole school of silver grouper 5 miles out of Hernando Beach in the late 70's.  Didn't boat any as I was sure the warden was watching somewhere - just kept the boat on plane to "the spot" 25 miles offshore & the green grouper.  "The Spot" coordinate: at the end of this video:

    https://youtu.be/b5ljdWyLR5I 
    But it could just be a trick.
    Daytona Rig: Any Depth Water Snag Free: https://youtu.be/eCruAntyeW4
    Texas/Carolina Adjustable Rig: https://youtu.be/Qk3Sg4_Yaks
    Bass From The Bank 100% Effective: https://youtu.be/Obu4ENBHcQc
    Rebuild Grandpa's Zebco: https://youtu.be/_4BTSEVcbQ4
    Bomb Holes, Wrecks, Reefs How To ID & GPS: https://youtu.be/b5ljdWyLR5I
    Fish Attractor That Works: https://youtu.be/ushkhZUxUWg 
    Big Sheepshead With Snails: https://youtu.be/gqE0az7WqH4

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