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harbisonharbison Posts: 4,394 Captain
A close look at Red Snapper fishing
 
Alexandria, VA, October 29, 2014, The Gulf of Mexico Fishery Council voted 10-7 to approve Amendment 40, sector separation. Amendment 40 divides the recreational quota between individual recreational fishermen and for-hire operators with a valid or renewable federal reef fish for-hire permit. 
Amendment 40 establishes separate Red Snapper season closure provisions for the federal for-hire and private angling components. As such the private recreational 2020 American Red Snapper season is 45 days beginning June 11 and ending July 25. The vessels with federal for-hire reef fishing permits is 62 days in federal Gulf of Mexico waters Beginning June 1 and closing August 2. 
The Red Snapper total 2020 non commercial quota is 7,339,000 pounds whole weight. 57.7% is allowed for the recreational sector and 42.3% for the for-hire, with federal reef permit holders.  
The American Sportsfishing Association, as well as Hubbard's Marina, are strongly opposed to sector separation. Why? Because sector separation will, in all probability, create serious conflicts between private anglers and charter/for-hire captains, and further diminish recreational fishing for Red Snapper. Equal access of the ARS quota, 7,339,000 pounds, for one & all is in the best interest of our fishery.  
On the other hand the Charter Fisherman's Association supports Amendment 40 stating that sector separation provides an opportunity to explore new management choices for all recreational fishermen. 
In 2020 this "new management choices" resulted in a private recreational ARS season of 45 days, and 62 days for the federal for hire permitted vessels. This is just not acceptable. 
Unfortunately, due to competition, for-hire operators with a valid or renewable federal reef fish for-hire permit are all but forced to fish for Red Snapper the entire 62 days. 

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  • Mackeral SnatcherMackeral Snatcher Posts: 11,456 AG
    I'm having a flashback :s
    THERE SHOULD BE NO COMMERCIAL FISHING ALLOWED FOR ANY SPECIES THAT IS CONSIDERED OVERFISHED.
  • harbisonharbison Posts: 4,394 Captain
  • drgibbydrgibby Posts: 1,465 Officer
    Never look for logic where logic DOES NOT exist!
  • harbisonharbison Posts: 4,394 Captain
  • Mackeral SnatcherMackeral Snatcher Posts: 11,456 AG

    CORRECTED Meeting Notice:
    Gulf Council's Scientific and Statistical Committees to Meet via Webinar to Review the State and Federal Private Recreational Red Snapper Data Calibrations
     
    The Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council's Standing, Reef Fish, Ecosystem, and Socioeconomic Scientific and Statistical Committees will meet via webinar. The meeting will be held from 9:00 AM - 4:00 PM, EDT on Tuesday, August 11, 2020; and from 9:00 AM - 12:00 PM, EDT on Wednesday, August 12, 2020.
     
    This webinar meeting will be a review of the August 5, 2020 MRIP State/Federal Private Recreational Red Snapper Data Calibration Workshop Outcomes. The Committees will receive a summary of Gulf State data collection program methods and resulting calibrations to the landings data generated by the Marine Recreational Information Program's Access Point Angler Intercept Survey and Fishing Effort Survey. The Committees will also review the results of individual state calibrations and state-specific annual catch limits for red snapper. After discussing the calibration methodology and results, the Committees may consider recommendations to the Council. These recommendations may include suggestions to improve transparency in data delivery, management, accessibility and quality control; approaches to  update and improve calibrations; and research efforts needed to inform future data collection efforts to more effectively manage red snapper and other species. The recommendations will also be provided to the Gulf Transition Team that includes federal and state agency partners, who will be tasked with ongoing efforts to revise and improve future calibration efforts.
     
    The Chair will take public comment and questions as time allows. 
     
    Register for the webinar here.
    Agenda and meeting materials are here.
    THERE SHOULD BE NO COMMERCIAL FISHING ALLOWED FOR ANY SPECIES THAT IS CONSIDERED OVERFISHED.
  • harbisonharbison Posts: 4,394 Captain
    Register for the webinar here.
    Just registered.  Thank! 
  • Jack HexterJack Hexter New Port RicheyPosts: 4,946 Moderator
    The reason for the disparity is because EDF wanted sector separation and Crabtree and his minions went along with it.   AS for the webinar, I wouldn't bother because the results are already written and they pay no attention to the public.  Everyone  including the charter captains who benefited from it spoke against Sector Separation and it was passed anyway.
  • harbisonharbison Posts: 4,394 Captain
    Glad you brought EDF & Crabtree up. Fought them for years to NO avail. 

    "Everyone  including the charter captains who benefited from it spoke against Sector Separation and it was passed anyway."
    TRUE!
    I can only speak of Hubbard's because that's all I know.  First heard the term sector separation years ago when Captain Mark Hubbard fought strongly against it. Now Mark's son, Dylan, runs everything. He attends as many fishery meetings as he can advocating equal access for one & all. 
    Sector Separation... Good for charter captains; terrible for fishing. 
  • Mackeral SnatcherMackeral Snatcher Posts: 11,456 AG
    I spoke with Mark extensively at the sector separation meetings.
    He was THE ONLY head boat captain to take a stance against it.
    That took balls!!
    THERE SHOULD BE NO COMMERCIAL FISHING ALLOWED FOR ANY SPECIES THAT IS CONSIDERED OVERFISHED.
  • harbisonharbison Posts: 4,394 Captain
    edited August 3 #11
    "He was THE ONLY head boat captain to take a stance against it."
    Another reason why I have been with Hubbard's for decades. 
    What is best for everyone...  Not just Hubbard's. 


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