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FS Forums OT 2035

Thread topic:  Internment Camps For Men Who Refuse To Change Genders

Woke FS members:

“Communism and internment camps are as old as the republic. Muh George Washington tho. Internment camps can be avoided with a simple series of free hormone injections but some anti-science misinformation spreaders are working so hard to harm the community and hold the country back by keeping the pandemic of toxic masculinity alive and well.”

Bimini_Twisted

XtremeEpicOutdoorsTV said:

FS Forums OT 2035

Thread topic:  Internment Camps For Men Who Refuse To Change Genders

Woke FS members:

“Communism and internment camps are as old as the republic. Muh George Washington tho. Internment camps can be avoided with a simple series of free hormone injections but some anti-science misinformation spreaders are working so hard to harm the community and hold the country back by keeping the pandemic of toxic masculinity alive and well.”

Is that sarcasm? 

dave44

Bimini_Twisted said:

XtremeEpicOutdoorsTV said:

FS Forums OT 2035

Thread topic:  Internment Camps For Men Who Refuse To Change Genders

Woke FS members:

“Communism and internment camps are as old as the republic. Muh George Washington tho. Internment camps can be avoided with a simple series of free hormone injections but some anti-science misinformation spreaders are working so hard to harm the community and hold the country back by keeping the pandemic of toxic masculinity alive and well.”

Is that sarcasm? 

What makes you think it might not be?

Bimini_Twisted

dave44 said:

Bimini_Twisted said:

XtremeEpicOutdoorsTV said:

FS Forums OT 2035

Thread topic:  Internment Camps For Men Who Refuse To Change Genders

Woke FS members:

“Communism and internment camps are as old as the republic. Muh George Washington tho. Internment camps can be avoided with a simple series of free hormone injections but some anti-science misinformation spreaders are working so hard to harm the community and hold the country back by keeping the pandemic of toxic masculinity alive and well.”

Is that sarcasm? 

What makes you think it might not be?

Because the was no mention of woke religiosity cults of nouveau Vichy, latte drinking, gender ambiguous clowns?

ferris1248

treemanjohn said:

Of course the dynamics will say nothing to see here

Southwest airlines canceled nearly 2,000 flights between Saturday and Sunday - blaming the FAA and the weather for problems that didn't seem to affect other airlines. According to FlightAware, Southwest canceled over 1,000 of the flights on Sunday.

“We experienced significant impact in the Florida airports [Friday] evening after an FAA-imposed air traffic management program was implemented due to weather and resulted in a large number of cancellations,” Alan Kasher, who oversees Southwest’s flight operations, in a statement obtained by several news outlets on Saturday.

Did other airlines have this issue or just South West?

kellercl

ferris1248 said:

treemanjohn said:

Of course the dynamics will say nothing to see here

Southwest airlines canceled nearly 2,000 flights between Saturday and Sunday - blaming the FAA and the weather for problems that didn't seem to affect other airlines. According to FlightAware, Southwest canceled over 1,000 of the flights on Sunday.

“We experienced significant impact in the Florida airports [Friday] evening after an FAA-imposed air traffic management program was implemented due to weather and resulted in a large number of cancellations,” Alan Kasher, who oversees Southwest’s flight operations, in a statement obtained by several news outlets on Saturday.

Did other airlines have this issue or just South West?

Others did, but not to the extent of South West.

treemanjohn

ferris1248 said:

treemanjohn said:

Of course the dynamics will say nothing to see here

Southwest airlines canceled nearly 2,000 flights between Saturday and Sunday - blaming the FAA and the weather for problems that didn't seem to affect other airlines. According to FlightAware, Southwest canceled over 1,000 of the flights on Sunday.

“We experienced significant impact in the Florida airports [Friday] evening after an FAA-imposed air traffic management program was implemented due to weather and resulted in a large number of cancellations,” Alan Kasher, who oversees Southwest’s flight operations, in a statement obtained by several news outlets on Saturday.

Did other airlines have this issue or just South West?

I have no idea

Big Battery

Southwest: 30%

Delta: 0%

United 0%

Alaska: 0%

American: 5%

Spirit: 4%  (normal)

Skywest: 1%

Allegiant: 7% (pretty normal)

Source

Big Battery

cadman said:

Big Battery said:

cadman said:

Big Battery said:

The mandate is nothing but hot air....no executive order, no OSHA Rule, just blathering from the white house.  If your employer cites the "mandate" they are lying.

OSHA will have the rules in the next few weeks. It takes time to go through the process and get input from stakeholders as the law requires. 

Then it will likely face challenges from several states that oppose it. 

Without a Presidential order or congress passing a law where does OSHA get authority to change rules?  Agencies on their own have the NPRM process they have to follow.

Congress granted OSHA the authority when it was created. The President delegated the specific authority when he notified them to implement the rules requiring vaccines for worker safety. OSHA will issue an ETS for the Vaccine Mandate that will serve as the proposed permanent standard. The notice of proposed rulemaking may have been issued or OSHA will issue it as part of the process to make the rule a permanent standard. The ETS can be challenged in the appropriate U.S. Court of Appeals if an affected party does not feel it is valid, But it will be law as soon as it is published in the federal register. 

It has been 30 days  so apparently it is not an EMERGENCY because there is still no legal requirement from OSHA.  You love to make excuses for the fascists.... please tell us how this is being done without an emergency or public comment?

kellercl

https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

Fun read, I'll grab some popcorn.

Big Battery

kellercl said:

https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

Fun read, I'll grab some popcorn.

This information doesnt matter to the hysterical covid zealots.  I am sure we will get 2 or 3 refutations from Cad, BT and the HR guy.

ferris1248

Big Battery said:

Southwest: 30%

Delta: 0%

United 0%

Alaska: 0%

American: 5%

Spirit: 4%  (normal)

Skywest: 1%

Allegiant: 7% (pretty normal)

Source

Evidently something internal to SW. 

Big Battery

All airlines pilot walkout coming right before thanksgiving....

cadman

Big Battery said:

kellercl said:

https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

Fun read, I'll grab some popcorn.

This information doesnt matter to the hysterical covid zealots.  I am sure we will get 2 or 3 refutations from Cad, BT and the HR guy.

Nobody on here has claimed that those who had Covid need to get the vaccine. The issue is the 100 million who are unvaccinated and have not caught Covid

2amigo

cadman said:

Big Battery said:

kellercl said:

https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

Fun read, I'll grab some popcorn.

This information doesnt matter to the hysterical covid zealots.  I am sure we will get 2 or 3 refutations from Cad, BT and the HR guy.

Nobody on here has claimed that those who had Covid need to get the vaccine. The issue is the 100 million who are unvaccinated and have not caught Covid

You might want to look up BT and Tarp's posts in the past.  I think you might find a different answer

Big Battery

cadman said:

Big Battery said:

kellercl said:

https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

Fun read, I'll grab some popcorn.

This information doesnt matter to the hysterical covid zealots.  I am sure we will get 2 or 3 refutations from Cad, BT and the HR guy.

Nobody on here has claimed that those who had Covid need to get the vaccine. The issue is the 100 million who are unvaccinated and have not caught Covid

The only people  "at issue" is those over 60 and that is still 99% safe to get at that age.  To force every working person to get injected is criminal and yes, there are many on here that said that they would enforce the mandate (incl the moderator) and the mandate has no exemptions for antibodies... and that tells you there is no science behind the mandates.

cadman

Big Battery said:

cadman said:

Big Battery said:

kellercl said:

https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

Fun read, I'll grab some popcorn.

This information doesnt matter to the hysterical covid zealots.  I am sure we will get 2 or 3 refutations from Cad, BT and the HR guy.

Nobody on here has claimed that those who had Covid need to get the vaccine. The issue is the 100 million who are unvaccinated and have not caught Covid

The only people  "at issue" is those over 60 and that is still 99% safe to get at that age.  To force every working person to get injected is criminal and yes, there are many on here that said that they would enforce the mandate (incl the moderator) and the mandate has no exemptions for antibodies... and that tells you there is no science behind the mandates.

As you pointed out already, there is no mandate yet. We do not know what exceptions may be included yet. Any business that values its bottom line will enforce the mandate until the courts say different, if and when it is challenged. 

Big Battery

Another sick out today at Southwest in process... 

 Any company that gives their employees an ultimatum deserves to fail.

I dare you to put a sign up at your gas stations that says you fully support employee vaccine mandates...but you wont.

cadman

Never said I supported it. I do follow the law rather than get fined. I am sure the same is true for most business owners.

Your company will enforce it if they fall under the mandate. Will you stand on principle and quit when they do?

cadman

There is a station in town that has big signs that say their employees are 100% vaccinated. 

He told me he had gotten nothing but positive responses..

4drinkmin

Not surprising in that county.

ferris1248

Big Battery said:

cadman said:

Big Battery said:

kellercl said:

https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

Fun read, I'll grab some popcorn.

This information doesnt matter to the hysterical covid zealots.  I am sure we will get 2 or 3 refutations from Cad, BT and the HR guy.

Nobody on here has claimed that those who had Covid need to get the vaccine. The issue is the 100 million who are unvaccinated and have not caught Covid

The only people  "at issue" is those over 60 and that is still 99% safe to get at that age.  To force every working person to get injected is criminal and yes, there are many on here that said that they would enforce the mandate (incl the moderator) and the mandate has no exemptions for antibodies... and that tells you there is no science behind the mandates.

I said if the government said I had to provide vaccinated technicians I would do so. (But you knew that.)

In fact I just received a letter from a government facilities management company stating I had to provide proof of vaccination by 12/08/2021 for technicians visiting/servicing those government sites I am subbed on. I have sufficient vaccinated employees to fulfill the requirement.

Those not visiting the site do not have to be vaccinated and it will be their choice if they want to get vaccinated.

By the way, thanks for the recognition. Don't know what it has to do with anything but thanks.

Tarponator

2amigo said:

cadman said:

Big Battery said:

kellercl said:

https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

Fun read, I'll grab some popcorn.

This information doesnt matter to the hysterical covid zealots.  I am sure we will get 2 or 3 refutations from Cad, BT and the HR guy.

Nobody on here has claimed that those who had Covid need to get the vaccine. The issue is the 100 million who are unvaccinated and have not caught Covid

You might want to look up BT and Tarp's posts in the past.  I think you might find a different answer

You think wrong in my instance.

Big Battery

cadman said:

There is a station in town that has big signs that say their employees are 100% vaccinated. 

He told me he had gotten nothing but positive responses..

That isnt the same as what I said but nice try.. and I am sure if there were negatives, they wouldnt even bother coming in. 

Big Battery

ferris1248 said:

Big Battery said:

cadman said:

Big Battery said:

kellercl said:

https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

Fun read, I'll grab some popcorn.

This information doesnt matter to the hysterical covid zealots.  I am sure we will get 2 or 3 refutations from Cad, BT and the HR guy.

Nobody on here has claimed that those who had Covid need to get the vaccine. The issue is the 100 million who are unvaccinated and have not caught Covid

The only people  "at issue" is those over 60 and that is still 99% safe to get at that age.  To force every working person to get injected is criminal and yes, there are many on here that said that they would enforce the mandate (incl the moderator) and the mandate has no exemptions for antibodies... and that tells you there is no science behind the mandates.

I said if the government said I had to provide vaccinated technicians I would do so. (But you knew that.)

In fact I just received a letter from a government facilities management company stating I had to provide proof of vaccination by 12/08/2021 for technicians visiting/servicing those government sites I am subbed on. I have sufficient vaccinated employees to fulfill the requirement.

Those not visiting the site do not have to be vaccinated and it will be their choice if they want to get vaccinated.

By the way, thanks for the recognition. Don't know what it has to do with anything but thanks.

Right... you would put the health of your employees and their medical choices and their jobs secondary to your profit.

Big Battery

cadman said:

Never said I supported it. I do follow the law rather than get fined. I am sure the same is true for most business owners.

Your company will enforce it if they fall under the mandate. Will you stand on principle and quit when they do?

Yup.

2amigo

Tarponator said:

2amigo said:

cadman said:

Big Battery said:

kellercl said:

https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

Fun read, I'll grab some popcorn.

This information doesnt matter to the hysterical covid zealots.  I am sure we will get 2 or 3 refutations from Cad, BT and the HR guy.

Nobody on here has claimed that those who had Covid need to get the vaccine. The issue is the 100 million who are unvaccinated and have not caught Covid

You might want to look up BT and Tarp's posts in the past.  I think you might find a different answer

You think wrong in my instance.

I don't have the energy (or time) to go back and look.  But I can think offhand about 23 posts that proves you I'm right

Bimini_Twisted

Big Battery said:

Another sick out today at Southwest in process... 

 Any company that gives their employees an ultimatum deserves to fail.

I dare you to put a sign up at your gas stations that says you fully support employee vaccine mandates...but you wont.

Southwest Airlines, union insist pilots didn’t walk out to protest vaccine mandates

Southwest Airlines spokeswoman Brandy King, in a statement: "The weekend challenges were not a result of employee demonstrations, as some have reported. We have a closer to normal operation today, navigating some new weather across our system."


https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2021/10/11/southwest-airlines-union-says-pilots-did-not-walk-out-to-protest-vaccine-mandates/?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

cadman

Big Battery said:

cadman said:

There is a station in town that has big signs that say their employees are 100% vaccinated. 

He told me he had gotten nothing but positive responses..

That isnt the same as what I said but nice try.. and I am sure if there were negatives, they wouldnt even bother coming in. 

I know it isn't, but I thought it worth mentioning. He did the same incentive I did and all his employees got the vaccine. I still 3 that won't and that is their choice. Two are in their twenties, so it is not likely an issue for them. 

I do not see small employers being mandated, but who knows. 

2amigo

“The airline blamed an ongoing staffing shortage and bad weather in the Midwest for the weekend’s cancellations, but the Federal Aviation Administration pushed back against that claim. Southwest Airlines was the only airline to report such a large percentage of canceled and delayed flights over the weekend. “ quote from news 

100's more cancelled today. Nobody will say why though.  King is trying to keep that stock up