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Fishing tips

    Hopefully a thread can get going mentioning tips we 
use in the 10k area.I'll skip reasons why,too many words.
    1.As the water cools,sun to your back,wind to your back.
    2. Change out the hooks where you can to stonger hooks
       from Owner,Eagle Claw or Mustad.
    3.Fish not biting,go to smaller leader and hooks.
    4.If casting to mangroves,shut your gas motor down 400
       yds.and either drift or elec.at slow speed.
    5.Using jigs,have weights varieties from 1/16oz to 3/8oz
       to account for water movement and depth of water. 

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  • nobleonenobleone Posts: 80 Deckhand
    1. Topwaters, do NOT try to set the hook.
    2. Slow, almost painfully slow on most softbaits.
    3. Tip the bucktails with scrimp or gulp.
    4. Fish the flat in front of the creek mouth on outgoing.
    5. Cast low into the wind. 

    "If it's not one thing, it's an alternator"

  • 10kman10kman Posts: 645 Officer
       Nobleone and others,great suggestion small snapper on a jig.Had
    a small snapper on when a huge snook slammed the little guy.Lost
    it because was not expecting the strike.But I need to fish this way
    more because snook like snapper as mach as we do.
       Also mullet=redfish.
  • 1outlaw1outlaw Naples FLPosts: 1,319 Officer
    Great tips!!
    Jason :USA
  • Paucan6005Paucan6005 Port of the islandsPosts: 53 Deckhand
    Topwaters around mangrove points, downed trees, falling tide: early and late if you get a strike and a miss have a purple jerk bait ready and give it a try. Snook will nail it (usually and if you keep it out of the mangroves!)
  • remo_5_0remo_5_0 Posts: 308 Deckhand
    I love the catfish rule :)
  • 10kman10kman Posts: 645 Officer
       1.Tarpon are gone from 10k area but you might find some smaller
    ones.But when mid April-June comes a small ladyfish or catfish are
    great bait.If not try fresh chunks of ladies or catfish on the bottom.
    Better have 80lb.leaders and 60+braid.
         2.Sheepshead are starting to appear.Very small hooks and bits
    of shrimp work.Pour kosher salt over shrimp and seal container.Salt
    toughens the shrimp.
         3.BPS sells a product called Butterit.It acts like a fly line conditioner
    to keep line from hanging up causing loops and knots in braided line.
    Butterit will also allow you to pull out a wind knot as well as your
    braid will now float on the water.ReelMagic more expensive alternate.
  • 10kman10kman Posts: 645 Officer
      Nobleone,thanks for your tip on mullet=redfish.
    Wed.mulllet jumping and two 25"reds were right
    there.
  • nobleonenobleone Posts: 80 Deckhand
    10kman said:
       Nobleone and others,great suggestion small snapper on a jig.Had
    a small snapper on when a huge snook slammed the little guy.Lost
    it because was not expecting the strike.But I need to fish this way
    more because snook like snapper as mach as we do.
       Also mullet=redfish.
    10K, yup that is my story too.  Windy, cold, low water day, throwing a little white bucktail.  I remember being mildly excited, muttering something like "oh boy!  I got a snapper", kinda' reeling slow 'cause I didn't want to spoil the excitement of the day when I get it close to the side of the boat I see this big "log" following it.  I was so flummoxed, I stopped reeling.  Right at that instant, the snook just slammed it so hard it ripped the rod out of my hand.  I must have held onto the rod just long enough for the shock of the snook clobbering that poor little snapper to break the power pro because the rod and reel landed on the gunnel and fell into the cockpit. My lucky day!  I can't ever remember a fish, any fish, slamming the bait with such ferocity.  I think that was the day my rotator cuff started to tear...

    "If it's not one thing, it's an alternator"

  • 10kman10kman Posts: 645 Officer
      Nobleone,also had similiar situation near Panther Key.
    Reeling in a small snaper and this trophy snook slams
    my poor snapper.I didn't drop the rod but lost the snook
    in the down timber along Panther's shoreline.
  • 10kman10kman Posts: 645 Officer
      
      I  like  the idea of putting Owner circle hooks on back
    of lures designed to catch tarpon instead of trebles.One
    big reason,if you have ever got a treble hook in your finger
    (twice for me)you will never forget it.
  • 10kman10kman Posts: 645 Officer
    1.This from a guide who spoke at our fishing club and
    said"When you come to an island,fish it !"And then he 
    sat down,end of  talk.Great advice from a guide.
    2.Yesterday water temp 62 degrees.At thse low water
    temps.you need to move your lures as slow as possible.
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,842 Captain
    ... and with these colder water temps don't expect any tarpon action at all... When the water is finally getting up near seventy you might find a few baby tarpon - but you can bet that the big mamas won't show up until it's a bit warmer than seventy - and they won't be feeding until water temps get to 74 and above... 
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • Joe SnookJoe Snook Posts: 468 Deckhand
    edited January 31 #20
    (1) Be Corteous and Safe! if you see a boat working a shoreline on trolling motor with a lady standing on the bow throwing a fly rod Control Yourself! do not run 30ft from the boat on half plane cut 40ft ahead of the boat and stop in front of them. i undersatand you probably have only one place you ever caught a fish but go find another or come back when the boat finishes. 
    (2) Try your best not to fish in narrow marked channels (which is illegal anyway) and more importantly in narrow unmarked channels. Especially when the tide is lower the paths can be very narrow and shallow therefore the boat on plane can not go around or stop.If a boat stops in shallow water they may have to idle for a few hundred yards or more before theres enough water to jump on plane, in short no one is going to stop and be forced to blow right by you.
    (3) If there are little kids and a father on a boat fishing a point and you Must come within 15 ft of the boat to go around them in the open Gulf Then Idle around dont go around them plowing on half plane endangering the passengers aboard by throwing a massive wake. Basically stay away from boats fishing if possible in most cases it really takes no effort at all to go way around the boat fishing.
    just some food for thought
    southwest florida fishing guide in the beautiful 10k islands, everglades and more www.Joesnook.com
  • lemaymiamilemaymiami Posts: 3,842 Captain
    Amen... a little courtesy goes a long way....
    Tight Lines
    Bob LeMay
    (954) 435-5666
  • 10kman10kman Posts: 645 Officer
    1.If all you seem to catch is catfish,your moving your bait too 
    slow on the bottom.If your still getting cats,try small piece of
    ladyfish or artificals.
    2.I've noticed whenever I switch to shallow running plugs
    seem to catch larger redfish.Larger reds seem to prefer
    lures looking like baitfish. 
  • nobleonenobleone Posts: 80 Deckhand
    10kman said:

    2.I've noticed whenever I switch to shallow running plugs
    seem to catch larger redfish.Larger reds seem to prefer
    lures looking like baitfish. 
    See number 3 above...

    3. Shallow running hardbaits on low water oyster bars rather than jigs.  :-)

    "If it's not one thing, it's an alternator"

  • BobberreduxBobberredux Posts: 5 Deckhand
    Re: see # 3 above

    DOA Baitbuster shallow runner. The single 4/0 j hook always rides upright, glides across bars without snagging. I like the black back with gold glitter belly in dirty water,silver belly in clean. easy to stuff a small sliver of cut lady in the hook slot if ya wanna cheat.
    Slow twitch,twitch,twitch...gliiide over the bar,then slightly faster in the trough.
    So many new baits every year, the old favorites get lost in the shuffle.
  • 10kman10kman Posts: 645 Officer
      1.On a prior entry in the 10k area,a person said he had not been out in
    six weeks but nothing in areas he used to go.A guide in the Keys said"I
    never go to same spot for at least two weeks."You keep going back to
    same spots and soon you will end up with 8"snapper,14"trout or 22"
    snook or nothing.
  • 1outlaw1outlaw Naples FLPosts: 1,319 Officer
    10kman said:
      1.On a prior entry in the 10k area,a person said he had not been out in
    six weeks but nothing in areas he used to go.A guide in the Keys said"I
    never go to same spot for at least two weeks."You keep going back to
    same spots and soon you will end up with 8"snapper,14"trout or 22"
    snook or nothing.
    Considering i typically only get to fish every 2 weeks it sounds like im on the right path then.
    Jason :USA
  • 10kman10kman Posts: 645 Officer
      1.Have fished with several people in my boat and frequently they
    reach for the sun tan lotion or insect spray.Remember a redfish may
    have a better sense of smell than a shark or 1 part per six million parts
    of water.Better way,take one index finger and rub on affected areas.All
    fish have sense of smell but reds and sharks the best.
       2.Get mold in boat or stored life preservers,cushions or clothing.There's
    a product called DampRid 10.5oz.Put in on bottom of storage area and
    will greatly reduce moisture.Empty stored water in container,should last
    three+months.
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